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It's all a grey area.
Fare Use is to make a BACKUP of it - means to copy the DVD to another DVD-R keeping the MPEG-2 format.
When you encode it to another format - that becomes debatable.
At least with the Fox DVD's, they make it legal by providing their own DRM'ed copy for use on other video players.
Nice job Fox, please include them also on the Blu-ray discs (oh, access via a PS3, transfer to your Mac via USB drive? Or would we have to get a Blu-ray drive for Mac to access it?)
Fare Use is to make a BACKUP of it - means to copy the DVD to another DVD-R keeping the MPEG-2 format.
When you encode it to another format - that becomes debatable.
At least with the Fox DVD's, they make it legal by providing their own DRM'ed copy for use on other video players.
Nice job Fox, please include them also on the Blu-ray discs (oh, access via a PS3, transfer to your Mac via USB drive? Or would we have to get a Blu-ray drive for Mac to access it?)
I wonder if the Blu-Ray copies will have the Apple versions also? Would be a smart move on their part - I would be far less motivated to find some way to digitize my blu-ray HD movies if I had aa on-disk-copy of even lowly iPod/iPhone quality.
And I do so hope we see AC-3 or some other true DD5.1 sound track option or better. On a different thread someone said that Dolby Pro Logic II was good enough - huh? Just did a test run of one such rip for my PS3 (considering ripping my 800 or so DVDs to a media server) against the DVD - the loss of the true center speaker is pronounced and massively inferior to even my tin ear (the picture actually looked better - bet it was the PS3's upscaling). Now doing a H.264/AC-3 rip which rumor says will play on the PS3 but not the AppleTV.
Please Apple make DD5.1 or something similar the standard next Tuesday - that would make your downloadable movies, Fox's on disk copies and AppleTV far more attractive.
And I do so hope we see AC-3 or some other true DD5.1 sound track option or better. On a different thread someone said that Dolby Pro Logic II was good enough - huh? Just did a test run of one such rip for my PS3 (considering ripping my 800 or so DVDs to a media server) against the DVD - the loss of the true center speaker is pronounced and massively inferior to even my tin ear (the picture actually looked better - bet it was the PS3's upscaling). Now doing a H.264/AC-3 rip which rumor says will play on the PS3 but not the AppleTV.
Please Apple make DD5.1 or something similar the standard next Tuesday - that would make your downloadable movies, Fox's on disk copies and AppleTV far more attractive.
If they put it on Blu-ray, it BETTER have an Apple compatible copy. Why would anyone play the smaller file on a PS3 when they can just slip the Blu-ray disc in?
Unless Sony plans on putting a PSP version of the file on the Blu-ray disc to play only on PSP's and Walkmans, but not any Apple devices...
I think this is a good deal for both sides. The movie companies can keep selling their DVDs, and iPod and iTunes users can still get their content. It would be more convenient downloading from iTunes though.
Since when can you take a screenshot when the Apple DVD player app is running?
The whole point of this story is that the disk has a version that requires iTunes. You really think they'd require iTunes for a version that only ran on PCs and PSP? Of course this will be apple compatible, with iTunes they can ship a file that plays on mac, pc, and iPod.
Yeah but my question was about blu-ray, not DVDs. We don't know if the iPod/iPhone version will be included on the blu-ray disc equivalents. The recent Harry Potter DVD that offered the free download of a .wmv version of the movie ISN'T on the blu-ray edition. I'm not assuming there will be with the Fox offer either until we see it.
DVD player doesn't have to be in full screen mode.
Umm..okay. Well, pop in a DVD and try taking a screenshot while DVD player is running...even NOT in full screen mode. It will not let you and will tell you that you cannot take a screenshot while DVD player is running.
Ah, and you assume I live where the DCMA matters. Even if it did... on a practical note, I still CAN easily enough.
P.S. I thought DeCSS was grandfathered in and/or has been tested in court under fair use doctrine?
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Noooo I didn't do that, not enough fingers
I just used Screen Sharing from another Mac lol
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Why does everybody have to comment on all the irrelevant bits of a post. go somewhere else troll....
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Why does everybody have to comment on all the irrelevant bits of a post. go somewhere else troll....
I said that because it a true. The center speaker Is the same as 5.1. The .1 is the subwoofer. That is the difference, and most sound systems pass along a bass channel anyway. If it sounds off then make sure your receiver is set to decode Dolby prologic II so the 5 channel get decoded correctly.
I agree with you though that I want true 5.1 support. I just am more interested in HD picture quality than the sound should I have to choose. I would take Apple TV 720p quality files with Dolby Pro Logic II any day.
Dolby Pro Logic is meant for two channel analog content or two channel PCM content with something embedded in it. It is not discrete. Bluray is leaving DD and DTS behind and going with PCM/Dolby True HD/DTS-HD-MA. I am surprised Apple cannot handle a simple DD 5.1 when even stupid cable companies can. My local news is in DD 5.1 (KMBC - Kansas City).
I agree that it is not discrete, nor is it on par with the HD Audio Codecs...however, it is 5-Channel Surround if processed properly (Dolby Prologic II, Prologic I is only 4 which is the current choice on the Apple Store). The audio chip on the Apple TV is more than capable of handling up to 7.1 channels, it is about quicktime supporting the proper audio or the unit being able to process AAC 5.1 to Dolby Digital Surround on the fly since most receivers cannot handle AAC 5.1.
Bleah, who needs TrueHD or DTS Mastur besides theaters? AC-3 and DTS are fine for 99.999999% of everyone... which I guess is why support for the wank codecs are optional for Blu-Ray players.
I agree about Apple's lack of support for Surround, though. I was fairly irritated that I had to buy a new sound system to get it from the Apple TV and Mac mini...
No, Dolby Pro Logic II is merely 2 channels with muxed versions of the center and rear channels. While you can get by with the decoded rear channels, the simulated center channel is not anywhere near the quality of the original. And my Harmon Kardon is decoding it to 5 channels, just isn't the quality of original heard through the same receiver switching between the DVD and the QT movie.
And I guess we don't agree on HD either - 720 is baby HD and of not too much interest to me. Lets just get the minimal industry standard of 5.1 (shoot most TV shows are 5.1 now) before we worry about them stretching themselves beyond the minimum of DVD standards they haven't yet reached.
It might not be the highest HD resolution out there, but using 720p would make downloads much less painful than trying to download a 1080p version. It'd still be pretty darn slow for a lot of the United States, since our broadband speeds are pretty bad, especially outside of major metropolitan areas.
I do agree with you though ; let's get 480p, let the AppleTV (or other device) upconvert, and get discrete 5.1 sound before we go expecting more. The problem is AC3 isn't part of the MP4 standard, no matter how much we want it to be. We'll need something to convert AAC 5.1 to AC3 5.1 on-the-fly, or receivers that can decode AAC natively.
I do agree with you though ; let's get 480p, let the AppleTV (or other device) upconvert, and get discrete 5.1 sound before we go expecting more. The problem is AC3 isn't part of the MP4 standard, no matter how much we want it to be. We'll need something to convert AAC 5.1 to AC3 5.1 on-the-fly, or receivers that can decode AAC natively.