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Sony has just announced something similar. Just with Blu-Ray and PSP being involved instead.

CES 2008: Blu-ray movies to PSP
Portable version embedded on BR discs may be rolled out this year.

At the company's Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Sony demonstrated Blu-ray movie discs embedded with a lower-resolution version of the film for portable devices. Fox and Warner Bros. released discs with a similar feature last year, albeit in standard definition.

Using a PlayStation 3 and a PSP, Sony showed how a Blu-ray movie disc could be inserted into the former and copied to a memory stick for the latter.

"There was always the promise of greater inactivity," David Bishop, president of Sony Pictures Home Entertainment told PC World.
While admitting that it was not currently part of the company's current release schedule, Bishop said that it was something Sony Pictures would probably roll out this year.

Because the lower-resolution version is permanently stored on the purchased Blu-ray disc, the portable version would not need to be downloaded online for a separate fee and there would be no expiration date. Although it was not specifically demonstrated, it is possible that the portable version could also be played on an iPod or a Zune. If other movie studios follow suit, such a move could help increase Blu-ray disc sales - but will also be likely to eliminate the UMD as a storage media for films.

In other HD format news, shares in Toshiba fell to their lowest level since last March on the news that Warner Bros. decided to drop support of its HD DVD format in favour of Blu-ray.

Source: GI
 
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Actually, I don't think it is legal for you to do so. According to the DMCA, any attempt to "circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title," is prohibited. In order to rip a DVD, encryption has to be broken.

You are also allowed to make a backup copy of digital media for your own use.

and there lies the contradictory laws.

Simply put, no one is going to sue you for making a personal copy of a legally purchased video as long as you dont distribute it.
 
Well, looks like the OP is one of the incredibly rare cases of being a newbie who actually knows something about an unreleased product! That doesn't happen too often. Kudos to mr echo! :)
 
No. It will only be in retail packaging. Not rental packaging. Furthermore it will be a code valid only once.

I've just been looking at the terms and conditions on the Fox site (I'm assuming they will be similar with the iTunes version) and they look pretty draconian.

You are allowed to put it on one PC only, and support will only re-issue the serial number in the even of technical trouble. So it seems that if I get a new computer in 3 years' time - tough luck, the movie won't work any more.

That, to use the American idiom, sucks.
 
IMO Family Guy is indeed the rightful successor to the Simpsons show, but not in a good way.

The Simpsons started getting bad when they began to go way to far into micro-second "fantasy interludes" and dropped any pretense of internal logic, realism, and character and situation driven story-lines. It quickly descended into the worst kind of drivel, and became sort of an illustrated version of a bad stand up routine from some third-rate Vegas bar.

Family Guy takes that shift and runs it out of the park with it. They also add a generous helping of cruel, nasty, negativity on top.

As dumb as some of the later episodes are, at least Homer Simpson is at the bottom of it all, a good person with a heart. There isn't a single character on Family Guy that actually is a "good person" with the exception of the dog, Brian. Even he is constantly being set-up into situations where he has to lie, cheat, or do some other nasty thing so that he won't seem like he's better than the rest of the reprobates on the show.

The "message" of Family Guy (such as it is), is that we are all shallow, cruel and selfish people and it's humour comes from a very uncool, relishing of that fact. Whomever writes it must have a particularly cruel bent, and an almost hopeless view of humanity in general. I'm betting that he used to pull wings off of flies as a child. ;)

IMO, if you are the kind of person that laughs out loud at "America's Funniest Videos" when a baby bashes it's head on the sharp edge of a coffee table, then you will find Family Guy hilarious.

Dude. These are cartoons. Lighten up.
 
Any info on the type and size of the file? :confused: Mr Echo...
I don't think he has been able to retrieve the file, due in part to the fact that iTunes 7.6 hasn't been released. Hopefully the specs are better than what is currently listed on the FOX Digital Copy website (says device must be able to playback a 800kbps video file).
 
Just noticed something interesting. I just fired up iTunes and noticed on the main page of the iTunes store they have a page for HD Podcasts. I tried subscribing to the MacBreak HD podcast and when it tried to sync with my Apple TV it told me that the podcast wasn't copied to my Apple TV "...because it cannot be played on this Apple TV"

The podcast consist of 1920x1080 H.264 video. Another hint of things to come??

Nope, PixelCorp (the producers of MacBreak) have always had a 1080p version. They also have a 720p version specially made for the AppleTV, which is what you want.

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=251078868&s=143441

That HD podcast page has been around since the AppleTV first came out (if not longer).
 
I don't think he has been able to retrieve the file, due in part to the fact that iTunes 7.6 hasn't been released. Hopefully the specs are better than what is currently listed on the FOX Digital Copy website (says device must be able to playback a 800kbps video file).

I thought he had the file, he just couldn't open it. Maybe I misunderstood.
 
Relating back to the topic at hand, digital iTunes versions of movies is a great idea, as long as it shows up on my :apple:TV.

Off Topic: Cartman explains EXACTLY why Family Guy is awful in episode 142 of South Park. Please refrain from going on and on about who is better until you watch that episode and it's sequel; Cartoon Wars Part 1 and Cartoon Wars Part 2. Seriously, when are Matt and Trey running for joint Presidents of Earth?
 
That's funny, your derogatory insinuations and negative connotations portray all the elements of Family Guy that my friends and I enjoy the most. The "fantasy interludes" lacking "internal logic" are brilliant departures from traditional linear storytelling.

The "cruel bent" of the writers is what keeps the show fresh and allows them to continue to push the limit of what is "acceptable" or "appropriate" for Broadcast Television. This kind of "boundary pushing" allows the writers use their creativity in ways that works circles around other television comedy writers.

Hmm. Both of those have been around for years. Frankly, I'm getting tired of cartoon characters talking foul for shock value, it's cliché at this point.

Same goes for the random, off topic gags. While they can be funny at times, cutting to a joke that isn't tied to the plot at all usually comes off as lazy writing.

How would they enable digital rights management on a read-only file? the only thing I can think of is that iTunes will require the DVD to be inserted initially before importing the file into iTunes.

The read-only file likely won't work until it's copied to the hard drive and authorized with a serial number or password. Then iTunes contacts the iTunes server and stores that number along with your iTunes account, so nobody else can authorize with that number. Seems pretty simple, actually.

I've just been looking at the terms and conditions on the Fox site (I'm assuming they will be similar with the iTunes version) and they look pretty draconian.

That's a big assumption. Personally, I doubt Jobs would agree to a lousy DRM system. Seems much more likely that fox is just going with fairplay and the user will end up with a file that behaves similar to other itunes store videos.
 
People would have accused him of faking it. Don't see many apologies for not believing the guy either, people are so quick to laugh at things they hear but seem to go all quiet when faced with the facts!
You do know that computers can display images? What's the difference between posting a screenshot and taking a picture of the screenshot when it's in preview? None. If anything, a photo makes it less credible since it's harder to see the details and to determine if it's fake.

In fact, it still could be a fake.
 
Why would you be disappointed if a new version of iTunes is a "7.6" release and not "8.0"?
Well, it's 0.4 larger. That seems pretty obvious to me.
You can't take a screenshot of a DVD... DVD player disables it...
The built-in screen-capture hotkey doesn't work. Third party screen-capture apps (like Snapz ProX) work just fine.
Actually, I don't think it is legal for you to do so. According to the DMCA, any attempt to "circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title," is prohibited. In order to rip a DVD, encryption has to be broken.
Unless you capture the analog output from a legal DVD player. A device like the Neuros OSD is perfectly legal. It may not look as good as a crack-the-encryption-and-recompress rip, but may be just fine when played on a small screen like an iPod.
You are also allowed to make a backup copy of digital media for your own use.

and there lies the contradictory laws.

Simply put, no one is going to sue you for making a personal copy of a legally purchased video as long as you dont distribute it.
No contradiction. You can read the entire (encrypted) content, including the part of the disc containing the (encrypted) title- and disc-keys. You can write all of this data (still encrypted) to a backup device without violating any law. The fact that consumer disc burners have firmware preventing you from burning discs with the CSS keys is irrelevant. You could buy a (very expensive) disc-mastering drive and use it to burn the copy (again, without decrypting anything.)

The law says you have the right to make a backup copy, as long as you don't use unlicensed software to decrypt the contents. Nothing in the law says that the process has to be cheap or easy.

As for prosecution, sure, nobody will sue you. Especially if you keep quiet about it. But that doesn't make it legal.
 
Nice.

The Order of the Phoenix DVD has a code for a digital download for 'Your computer and personal video player".

Small print at the bottom says "not available for Mac OS X or iPod devices" :rolleyes:

Yeah, that small print irked me too. But like another post stated, there's still handbrake.
 
I've read that Comedy Central is pondering bringing Futurama back based on it's Family Guy-esque cult following that developed on Cartoon Network.

Yep, this has been known for quite awhile now (several years actually, i remember reading about futurama coming back in early 06 i believe.) Once Cartoon Network lost the right (the clock strike of '08) Comedy Central gets the new episodes and the old ones.
 
The read-only file likely won't work until it's copied to the hard drive and authorized with a serial number or password. Then iTunes contacts the iTunes server and stores that number along with your iTunes account, so nobody else can authorize with that number. Seems pretty simple, actually.

That's a big assumption. Personally, I doubt Jobs would agree to a lousy DRM system. Seems much more likely that fox is just going with fairplay and the user will end up with a file that behaves similar to other itunes store videos.

At least someone gets what I've been trying to say. Don't judge this new development based on what is already on the site. We know that can't be right since iPods are explicitly excluded from the current site.

It's probably just an extension of the way FairPlay already works (worked). The way iTS worked some time ago was that the music files were sent out without DRM (so that anyone downloading a file would download exactly the same file. The DRM and personalization were applied in the iTunes client. This was exploited by DVD Jon to buy songs from iTS, but skip the DRM bit.

I believe now the files are encrypted/DRMed with a common key, which could be extended to this kind of delivery. i.e. the file on the phsyical medium is encrypted, but not attached to a particular iTunes account until it is "redeemded".

What'll be interesting will be if Apple and Fox find a way to use this as a sales mechanism too. Borrow someone else's DVD and don't have the redemption code? No problem, we'll sell you a new one!

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Actually, I don't think it is legal for you to do so. According to the DMCA, any attempt to "circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title," is prohibited. In order to rip a DVD, encryption has to be broken.

The same encryption has to be "broken" in order to view the DVD in DVD player. What is the distinction from the end-users viewpoint?
 
IMO, if you are the kind of person that laughs out loud at "America's Funniest Videos" when a baby bashes it's head on the sharp edge of a coffee table, then you will find Family Guy hilarious.

That's nice. Logically speaking, that only says something about AFV fans and nothing about FG fans.
 
The same encryption has to be "broken" in order to view the DVD in DVD player. What is the distinction from the end-users viewpoint?

The DVD player is authorized to decode the encryption. You are not. Though, I agree, the law does violate fair use.
 
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