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Itunes 8.2 Contains Blu-ray Support!!! With Pic

gibbz said:
To all of those who keep saying that licensing is "bag of hurt" .... do you not remember this story about Blu-ray licensing getting easier?
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I thought there was something about that, just didn't take the effert to search for it. Yes, I know I'm patheticly lazy:D
DoFoT9 said:
yes, thats compeltely possible :):)

you can now buy 128GB flash drives for ~$150.

barkmonster: i will get back to you soon :) it requires a bit of research!
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I had no idea!:eek: Maybe we'll see this sooner than expected...
SG :apple:
 
Relax...

This is probably nothing more than Gracenote updating its Terms & Conditions. At MOST...it's DVD playback in iTunes.
 
DoFoT9 said:
i, for one, am hoping that this isnt the case. keep them seperate! - its already quite bloated as is.
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I'd rather a less simple itunes than, dealing with handbrake and dvd player.

DoFoT9 said:
flash drives maybe?? wont get damaged as easily and are MUCH MUCH cheaper :):)
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I'm with you I think flash drives and downloads are the way to go for a few reasons. Although I'm not sure a flash drive is cheaper than a blueray disc. At least not in actually manufacturing costs for the companies. I mean how much could it cost them to press a disc?
 
jamesschmidtke said:
I actually like blu-ray, and they are actaully pretty hard to scratch or break, ten times tougher than dvd to say the least. Flash sticks would be cool, though to hold high quality hd, they would surely cost more than pressing a disc?
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ive never had the experience of seeing a BR disc up close, i cant afford them nor a BR player.. :( so i cant comment on that.

as for the price of making flash drive HD content vs pressing a BD, im not sure.. i doubt there would be any articles on them haha! i would take a stab that BD would be cheaper, but flash is becoming more and more cheaper all the time (as with BD i guess).
 
mikeinternet said:
I'd rather a less simple itunes than, dealing with handbrake and dvd player.



I'm with you I think flash drives and downloads are the way to go for a few reasons. Although I'm not sure a flash drive is cheaper than a blueray disc. At least not in actually manufacturing costs for the companies. I mean how much could it cost them to press a disc?
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hhmm i would love to use flash drives, they could last a life time. must faster at seeking too.

my guess would be that they cost like .50c to press haha!
 
DoFoT9 said:
ive never had the experience of seeing a BR disc up close, i cant afford them nor a BR player.. :( so i cant comment on that.

as for the price of making flash drive HD content vs pressing a BD, im not sure.. i doubt there would be any articles on them haha! i would take a stab that BD would be cheaper, but flash is becoming more and more cheaper all the time (as with BD i guess).
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i would think that for the overall price, flash would hands down cost more. But as for the companies loading the data, I think that it would be cheaper/faster to load onto flash. But it all depends. For anyone to want a new media format, there would have to be some big advancement, like... maybe FireWire 10000:D Well, maybe not that good, but something FAST, so that you could load a true-HD movie and bonus features in seconds. This would also need a breakthrough in flash tech too though... I dont see this comming too soon:eek:
SG :apple:
 
PaperMacWriter said:
i would think that for the overall price, flash would hands down cost more. But as for the companies loading the data, I think that it would be cheaper/faster to load onto flash. But it all depends. For anyone to want a new media format, there would have to be some big advancement, like... maybe FireWire 10000:D Well, maybe not that good, but something FAST, so that you could load a true-HD movie and bonus features in seconds. This would also need a breakthrough in flash tech too though... I dont see this comming too soon:eek:
SG :apple:
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yea i agree, flash would cost lots more. for a 64GB flash drive they go for arund $160AUD, so ~$115US. thats a hell of a lot compared to a BR disc ill admit (they are around $40 here still). the technology for flash drives isnt limited to around 500gb - as opposed to BD. with usb3.0 coming out soon i can see flash drives becoming faster and faster - USB promises speeds of 600mbytes/s. pretty impressive i guess.

whether its HD/video/consumer material is another question.

barkmonster said:
WOW sarcasm YAY!

I don't remember mentioning laptops?

I know the Core i7 idea is over-optimistic to the point of dreaming but as far as both the Unibody Macbooks and the iMac, there's something called the optibay available for Macbooks and Macbook Pros. The company offers an external USB case for the internal superdrive to be re-housed and it's available for all Macbook models apart from the entry level White Macbook.

I'm not veering off topic here because it illustrates my point perfectly. Do you know why it can't be offered for the White Macbook?

Because it uses a 9.5mm drive and they can't provide a case for it!

Bearing that in mind, regardless of which CPU Apple choose to use, at least having blu ray PLAYBACK in either a unibody laptop or the iMac isn't completely out of the question is it?

Here's a photo of the external drive I found on google:
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the optibay is available to my original MBP, but i dont see what putting an extra HD into the computer does for this?? (unless optibay also gives you an external adaptor via USB/FW to put your optical drive into??)

PLAYBACK is pretty much the only thing that isnt currently supported by apple in terms of BR support. we can burn/read BR data discs. we can read a BR movie disc (read, not play) - these all assume that you have a BR drive of course. so we are just waiting for reading "support". i am not aware of the process that apple would need to go through to enable this, could somebody walk us though??

im actually very surprised that a 3rd party developer hasnt produced an app that can play the movies. im sure they would make TONS of money.

oh and i would HATE having an external BD, its useless tbh. would need extra power and everything (if it needs two USB cables then there are no more ports my MBP that i could use for other things). i much much prefer compressing my movies for 'on the road', at home is another story. thats my opinion though, not dissing anybody.
 
This is good news for anyone who has Blu Ray movies. HD downloads are cool but it lacks the true HD picture and HD sounds. I am all for it.
 
DoFoT9 said:
yea i agree, flash would cost lots more. for a 64GB flash drive they go for arund $160AUD, so ~$115US. thats a hell of a lot compared to a BR disc ill admit (they are around $40 here still). the technology for flash drives isnt limited to around 500gb - as opposed to BD. with usb3.0 coming out soon i can see flash drives becoming faster and faster - USB promises speeds of 600mbytes/s. pretty impressive i guess.

whether its HD/video/consumer material is another question.



the optibay is available to my original MBP, but i dont see what putting an extra HD into the computer does for this?? (unless optibay also gives you an external adaptor via USB/FW to put your optical drive into??)

PLAYBACK is pretty much the only thing that isnt currently supported by apple in terms of BR support. we can burn/read BR data discs. we can read a BR movie disc (read, not play) - these all assume that you have a BR drive of course. so we are just waiting for reading "support". i am not aware of the process that apple would need to go through to enable this, could somebody walk us though??

im actually very surprised that a 3rd party developer hasnt produced an app that can play the movies. im sure they would make TONS of money.

oh and i would HATE having an external BD, its useless tbh. would need extra power and everything (if it needs two USB cables then there are no more ports my MBP that i could use for other things). i much much prefer compressing my movies for 'on the road', at home is another story. thats my opinion though, not dissing anybody.
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I wasn't suggesting Apple move to using an external drive I was using the fact optibay provide an external case for your old internal drive on all models apart from the white Macbook to illustrate the point of it being the only model with a 9.5" drive. Optibay make a point of mentioning they can't provide an external case for a drive of that size because it's non-standard.

Based on that fact, other models should have room for the Sony drive internally so Blu Ray PLAYBACK with standard superdrive functionality would be possible in those models.
 
barkmonster said:
I wasn't suggesting Apple move to using an external drive I was using the fact optibay provide an external case for your old internal drive on all models apart from the white Macbook to illustrate the point of it being the only model with a 9.5" drive. Optibay make a point of mentioning they can't provide an external case for a drive of that size because it's non-standard.
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hmm thats confusing but, the drive in my MBP uses a 9.5mm optical drive - yet they still advertise full support for it.

Based on that fact, other models should have room for the Sony drive internally so Blu Ray PLAYBACK with standard superdrive functionality would be possible in those models.
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if it were true yes, let's try to get to the bottom of this. :cool:

this ebay site seems to back me up.. link!

Compatibility: - MacBook 13.3-inch 2.0GHz (MB466LL/A) Intel Core 2 Duo (Late 2008) - Unibody
- MacBook 13.3-inch 2.4GHz (MB467LL/A) Intel Core 2 Duo (Late 2008) - Unibody
- MacBook Pro 15.4-inch 2.4GHz (MB470LL/A) Intel Core 2 Duo (Late 2008) - Unibody
- MacBook Pro 15.4-inch 2.53GHz (MB471LL/A) Intel Core 2 Duo (Late 2008) - Unibody
- MacBook Pro 15.4-inch 2.8GHz (CTO) Intel Core 2 Duo (Late 2008) - Unibody
- May also work in any laptop using 9.5mm height SATA optical drive
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very confused.
 
What's the point of this? iTunes doesn't play DVD media, so why make it even larger than it is by including that and Blu-ray?

Seriously, this isn't happening. The licensing is too much of a turn-off.

I opened the picture with TextEdit and I couldn't find any Photoshop remnants, so the image is legitimate, but it seems very, very pointless.

At any rate, where's my HD DVD support?! I have a library of HD DVDs that I would like to watch outside of Windows, thank you very much!

Oh, also.... IT COMPETES WITH ITUNES. THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
 
Tallest Skil said:
What's the point of this? iTunes doesn't play DVD media, so why make it even larger than it is by including that and Blu-ray?

Seriously, this isn't happening. The licensing is too much of a turn-off.

I opened the picture with TextEdit and I couldn't find any Photoshop remnants, so the image is legitimate, but it seems very, very pointless.

At any rate, where's my HD DVD support?! I have a library of HD DVDs that I would like to watch outside of Windows, thank you very much!

Oh, also.... IT COMPETES WITH ITUNES. THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
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pfft who uses optical media these days.. convert them all to a mp4/mkv file or something!!! :p (/joking)

yes i brought that point up, why would they bring out something that would compete with their own product?!? it makes no sense.
 
Firstly,

Adding DVD playback to iTunes would be trivial, it's already present in Front Row, it's surely a question of adding the same launching mechanism and framing it within itunes like the current video playback interface.

Secondly,

Just because BD competes with the iTunes store doesn't mean that Apple won't offer it, MS Office competes with iWork, many mobiles compete with the iPhone but are still supported via iSync. I'm quite sure we'll see it in an Apple product sooner rather than later.

Fianlly,

What I'd really love this to be is an iTunes DVD importer, stick a DVD in and it's ripped to your HD, Real have created a program like this and are currently in a legal battle arguing that it's legit. I can't see a problem with it if the files are then DRM'd and tied to a users iTunes account.

Most likely.. Gracenote updating T's & C's
 
Tallest Skil said:
What's the point of this? iTunes doesn't play DVD media, so why make it even larger than it is by including that and Blu-ray?

Seriously, this isn't happening. The licensing is too much of a turn-off.

I opened the picture with TextEdit and I couldn't find any Photoshop remnants, so the image is legitimate, but it seems very, very pointless.

At any rate, where's my HD DVD support?! I have a library of HD DVDs that I would like to watch outside of Windows, thank you very much!

Oh, also.... IT COMPETES WITH ITUNES. THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
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HD-DVD?

I want it to play my Betamax tapes, laser discs, and all the stuff I have on Zip disk and Superdisk.

TS, you do love a dead format.
 
I think Apple may offer Blu-ray drives on the iMac and Mac Pro by this summer as a possible. The reason is simple: the Blu-ray Disc Association recently went to a "one stop" technology licensing model, and BDA may offer a large-volume discount on licensing that could entice Apple to offer a Blu-ray "Superdrive" optical disc drive, especially since the iMac and Mac Pro already have the hardware in place to support HDCP and decode VC-1 and AVC video streams.
 
My guess is that its to support those pc users who have blu ray drives and really is not exciting at all!
 
DoFoT9 said:
never ever seen a HD DVD in my physical life, its dead to me ;)
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I have, they were in red cases and had a big sticker on them that said "$9.95". This was about a year ago or so, looking at the big cardboard bin they were in was like seeing a stranger in an open coffin - you know they're dead but you still have a morbid need to take a look.
 
Chundles said:
I have, they were in red cases and had a big sticker on them that said "$9.95". This was about a year ago or so, looking at the big cardboard bin they were in was like seeing a stranger in an open coffin - you know they're dead but you still have a morbid need to take a look.
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and buy pretty much all of them because they are basically a steal for that price.... up here on the goldy i never really see much of anything. and its all expensive :(
 
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