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about the 2.1 touch software...

...i bet the touch gets gps, and with a gps touch we get turn by turn directions... (and so does the iphone)

Yeah- this is the magic upgrade that will- through "elegant" software and the mighty SJ RDF- add a GPS antenna to iPod Touches.
 
I think we will see the Nano Touch.
And that ugly deoderant-looking Nano will be introduced as part of the Classic line.

iTunes 8 needs the ability to see iPhoto Folders, not just albums, and ability to easily alphabetize your iPhoto albums/folders.

As far as iPhone 2.1 update, Copy/Paste, Video Recording and the damn simple ability to add a photo as an attachment in Mail.

What do y'all think?
 
Kevin Rose, broadcasting from his grans semi detached apparently, and always choosing an unsightly ladder as a background, has belabored the obvious points and has predicted what pretty much every pundit has so far. I am wondering about the continued love affair of mac rumors with this guy and why it has somehow become the only channel of information.

Last time I mentioned a mildly derogatory term for him I got banned. I respect that decision so I am not going to repeat this comment which was deemed to be insulting.

It seems Rose is paying big money to get visibility in the mac community, that's all good and nice for some, but very odious for me. I am sure he wants his investment protected.

Gratis Tip: Just skip the in front of the ladder aesthetic next time you want to play mac prophet. But is seems no matter who much money people make taste can't be bought.

For some really insightful commentary read old time pro Danny Dilger at roughlydrafted.com. He's one heck of a writer. Here's what he's got to say on Rose:

"Kevin Rose has been trying his hand at making broad sweeping generalizations about the next generation of iPods, but sorry, no digg. Most of his predictions are not even original, and those that are are so vague that they’re really just worthless. Here’s what you can really expect."

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/...ple-new-ipods-sept-22-iphone-os-21-itunes-80/
 
Kevin Rose, broadcasting from his grans semi detached apparently, and always choosing an unsightly ladder as a background, has belabored the obvious points and has predicted what pretty much every pundit has so far. I am wondering about the continued love affair of mac rumors with this guy and why it has somehow become the only channel of information.

Last time I mentioned a mildly derogatory term for him I got banned. I respect that decision so I am not going to repeat this comment which was deemed to be insulting.

It seems Rose is paying big money to get visibility in the mac community, that's all good and nice for some, but very odious for me. I am sure he wants his investment protected.

Gratis Tip: Just skip the in front of the ladder aesthetic next time you want to play mac prophet. But is seems no matter who much money people make taste can't be bought.

For some really insightful commentary read old time pro Danny Dilger at roughlydrafted.com. He's one heck of a writer. Here's what he's got to say on Rose:

"Kevin Rose has been trying his hand at making broad sweeping generalizations about the next generation of iPods, but sorry, no digg. Most of his predictions are not even original, and those that are are so vague that they’re really just worthless. Here’s what you can really expect."

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/...ple-new-ipods-sept-22-iphone-os-21-itunes-80/

Putting your text in large is obnoxious. As is persisting to make your point after being banned - obviously that meant nobody cared for your opinion, but you still felt that urge to let us all know anyway.

The difference between that article and Rose's predictions are large: firstly, Rose claims to have actual information, not just logical speculation. Whilst the latter might be fun, everyone can come up with their own ideas - it doesn't make it real. Real insider information (if indeed that's what Rose has) is real. That's why we pay attention to it.

Also, Rose's information has been backed up: Ars reports they've heard the same thing, he got the date pretty much spot on (to the day, IIRC), and the picture he posted has been backed up by various sources of similar iPods and even actual products on retail shelves. Now, despite what you might think, case manufacturers don't go on rumours. They have large volumes of products to make, and it's expensive, and Apple partly depend on the 3rd parties for the iPod's success. They do get information from Apple. If a company as big as Hama are releasing cases for the new Nano, it's real. The other pictures all look perfectly legit.

Then we come to the third reason: his track record. He's pretty good at Apple rumors, and his ability to make a multi-million dollar web startup with Digg shows us that he's not just bored - he's got the money to go out having fun, or buy another startup. He's also probably got the connections being administrator of a site like Digg earns you. He's not some lonely teenager, massaging his love for Apple because he can't get a date - he's a millionaire technology enthusiast, with genuine connections and a record for being close to the mark on Apple rumours.

You have some kind of vendetta against him. Drop it. He called this one.
 
Kevin Rose, broadcasting from his grans semi detached apparently, and always choosing an unsightly ladder as a background, has belabored the obvious points and has predicted what pretty much every pundit has so far. I am wondering about the continued love affair of mac rumors with this guy and why it has somehow become the only channel of information.

Last time I mentioned a mildly derogatory term for him I got banned. I respect that decision so I am not going to repeat this comment which was deemed to be insulting.

It seems Rose is paying big money to get visibility in the mac community, that's all good and nice for some, but very odious for me. I am sure he wants his investment protected.

Gratis Tip: Just skip the in front of the ladder aesthetic next time you want to play mac prophet. But is seems no matter who much money people make taste can't be bought.

For some really insightful commentary read old time pro Danny Dilger at roughlydrafted.com. He's one heck of a writer. Here's what he's got to say on Rose:

"Kevin Rose has been trying his hand at making broad sweeping generalizations about the next generation of iPods, but sorry, no digg. Most of his predictions are not even original, and those that are are so vague that they’re really just worthless. Here’s what you can really expect."

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/...ple-new-ipods-sept-22-iphone-os-21-itunes-80/

Must you mention "old time pro Danny Dilger" in every thread that involves Rose making predictions?

Rose has nailed quite a few things, the least of which has been the exact date of tomorrow event. He's got *someone* giving him inside access.
 
good call, this has been bothering me as well for how many years now?!

The thing I'm looking forward to with genius playlists, is that if I tell iTunes to just play my whole library (just click music and play, or click something in the list on coverflow), it won't mess up by mixing genres.

For those that have a library of classical and non-classical music, this is a pain. If I want to listen to some relaxing Chopin, I get Jay-Z interrupting from time to time. If you have any audiobooks, it's pretty awful as well. iTunes U podcasts also get thrown in there.

Sorry for the double post by the way. Two different tones, thought it warranted another post.

EDIT: Anyone think we might see cellular iTunes store access? Last year, Apple announced the WiFi store. Now, we've heard reports that Apple have been trying to negotiate with record labels to enable cellular access. That really would be a large announcement. Perhaps Apple could even do something like Amazon did with the Kindle and buy cellular network space for the iPod touch.

The record labels wanted higher prices for cellular downloaded songs. Apple could give them a larger market by allowing the touch to purchase on the go through something like what the Kindle has. It would create persistent access to the store, unlike anything on other music devices. No matter where you are, if you hear a song you like, you can buy it right then and there. Touch or iPhone. No other store in the world offers you access at any location, any time of day. Even online stores require you to be at a computer or have WiFi access.

Apple could pay for it by using their small profit per-song on iTunes (I think it's 30%) to pay for the data. That's great because it scales quite nicely (more songs = more data costs for Apple, but they get more money from the purchase to pay for it). It also fits in with the strategy of the iTunes store not being a business per-se, but really just being another great feature of the iPods. If they don't take the money per-song, they could take less profit per iPod touch and use that to pay for the data, hoping the costs even out. Either way, it'll give reduced margins on something, but probably create higher product volumes, making it a good choice both business-wise, and for consumers.

I'm also wondering why they made the Nano bigger. It can't be because of the bigger screen, because that's why people buy the iPod classic. Either they're retiring the classic (possible), or they've added something major. I think they found that adding something inevitably made it bigger, and that they had space for a larger screen. Or they've done something to the shuffle to make that the new choice for people who like their iPods with a dash of anorexia.
 
Interesting. I use iTunes on XP at work, and don't see any of teh problems you stated. The scrolling is very responsive, and I don't get any 10 second (or even 1 second) delays. I've got a library with 17456 songs in it.

I like how both of you are commenting on the speed of iTunes without even thinking of mentioning the specs of your machines. CPU/RAM make a huge diff in how apps behave/respond to user input.
 
blah blah blah I want to know stuff too and be famous on the internets blah blah bla

what are you so angry about? Kevin Rose is a cool dude, he got some insider info (this aint the first time). You on the other hand, gave us nothing to talk about other than your horrid post.
 
iTunes needed to be rewritten. If they just grafted some new crap onto the same old bloated app, like this dumb 'grid view' and 'genius playlist' ....then I won't even download it.
The last time they rewrote consumer software *cough* iMovie *cough*, it was met with considerable disdain...

...I'm not so sure if they will do the same thing with iTunes.

:D:p
 
Lag?

Some people have been complaining about the lag in itunes. I have a library of 5,000 songs and growing. the only time I have had a lag on my mac or pc is when I have multiple applications hitting the disk. Other than that within a second or two the song starts.
 
Just because he says one thing, doesn't mean there's isn't one more thing.

Putting your text in large is obnoxious. As is persisting to make your point after being banned - obviously that meant nobody cared for your opinion, but you still felt that urge to let us all know anyway.

The difference between that article and Rose's predictions are large: firstly, Rose claims to have actual information, not just logical speculation. Whilst the latter might be fun, everyone can come up with their own ideas - it doesn't make it real. Real insider information (if indeed that's what Rose has) is real. That's why we pay attention to it.

Also, Rose's information has been backed up: Ars reports they've heard the same thing, he got the date pretty much spot on (to the day, IIRC), and the picture he posted has been backed up by various sources of similar iPods and even actual products on retail shelves. Now, despite what you might think, case manufacturers don't go on rumours. They have large volumes of products to make, and it's expensive, and Apple partly depend on the 3rd parties for the iPod's success. They do get information from Apple. If a company as big as Hama are releasing cases for the new Nano, it's real. The other pictures all look perfectly legit.

Then we come to the third reason: his track record. He's pretty good at Apple rumors, and his ability to make a multi-million dollar web startup with Digg shows us that he's not just bored - he's got the money to go out having fun, or buy another startup. He's also probably got the connections being administrator of a site like Digg earns you. He's not some lonely teenager, massaging his love for Apple because he can't get a date - he's a millionaire technology enthusiast, with genuine connections and a record for being close to the mark on Apple rumours.

You have some kind of vendetta against him. Drop it. He called this one.

He called nothing. He just made the same sweeping generalizations that others have been making. "Claiming" to have real information does NOT in fact make it any more real than "speculation".

Having other sites "back-up" his claims is actually backwards, the other sites have had this type of info forever, and he just packages it into tiny wow bites that mac users really eat up. He's a showman taking credit for other people's work.

Now to the others saying "the event's gonna suck if he's right", WHY? Why are you assuming that his information is ALL the information? He's just pumping up existing rumors, if this was everything, Apple would have shut him up before we new about it. iPod Touch 2.1 but nothing about higher capacity?

There will be more, and it will be big.


But now that I think of it, with all this need to know before the event, breaking NDA's, Jobs should just get up on stage and pull everything out of his pockets, set it on a table, and say, "yeah here's the stuff you already know about, thanks for coming, and one more thing- F*CK YOU". ...sorry
 
The last time they rewrote consumer software *cough* iMovie *cough*, it was met with considerable disdain...

...I'm not so sure if they will do the same thing with iTunes.

:D:p

iMove may lack some advanced features, but I have used it and I like some of its features for quick movies. I am happy with iLife as a whole. Now iWork, yep does need a little more work to compete in the market of office suites.
 
There will be more, and it will be big.
Maybe it's just more details to the products already covered by rumors rather than new products.

iMove may lack some advanced features, but I have used it and I like some of its features for quick movies. I am happy with iLife as a whole.
There were those (me included) who praised iMovie despite some shortcomings. But just like what happened with iMovie, if Apple rewrites iTunes, any praisers would be overshadowed by the number of people who will start saying "Apple took out feature XYZ!!1! NOOO!!! Worst software decision EVAR!@!1!!1!"
 
He called nothing. He just made the same sweeping generalizations that others have been making. "Claiming" to have real information does NOT in fact make it any more real than "speculation".

Having other sites "back-up" his claims is actually backwards, the other sites have had this type of info forever, and he just packages it into tiny wow bites that mac users really eat up. He's a showman taking credit for other people's work.

Now to the others saying "the event's gonna suck if he's right", WHY? Why are you assuming that his information is ALL the information? He's just pumping up existing rumors, if this was everything, Apple would have shut him up before we new about it. iPod Touch 2.1 but nothing about higher capacity?

There will be more, and it will be big.


But now that I think of it, with all this need to know before the event, breaking NDA's, Jobs should just get up on stage and pull everything out of his pockets, set it on a table, and say, "yeah here's the stuff you already know about, thanks for coming, and one more thing- F*CK YOU". ...sorry

this is not the first event kevin broke the news about. he had inside info on the iphone and broke that news on diggnation well before anyone else. also he broke the news this time about the genius feature as well as the new visualizer and the new view in itunes 8 (he even drew us a friggin picture of that one). the only thing he didn't reveal first was the new nano design which he merely confirmed.

is it so hard to believe that kevin rose may have friends at apple who happen to mention upcoming products to him? mr. rose is a big name in the tech biz today and if you can't conceive that he has any inside info on his favorite company in the world, you're just proud to be ignorant.
 
//Ha, ha I read Rose's wiki...this is the supposed wiz kid? Ha, ha, ha, ha, some tv persona, turned .com bubble perpatratror, turned (supposedly) digg bilionaire after sucking up to Steve Wozniak? Well let's wait about the next .com bubble. Man are we gonna have a laugh. To all digg addicts here, if you don't like what I am saying don't read ok? Go to digg where you spend 99% of your lives set up a shrine to the kid and digg the post you dont like down!!

what are you so angry about? Kevin Rose is a cool dude, he got some insider info (this aint the first time). You on the other hand, gave us nothing to talk about other than your horrid post.

I am not angry I just don't like the way he's suddenly become no. 1 source for macrumors, and I don't like the fact that his predictions are mediocre at best. As for my horrid post...well...go over to digg and suck up to your uber geek idol. Ask him for a handout and about his ladder fetish too.

Must you mention "old time pro Danny Dilger" in every thread that involves Rose making predictions?

Rose has nailed quite a few things, the least of which has been the exact date of tomorrow event. He's got *someone* giving him inside access.

What exact date? When did he predict that? A few days before the event? When the internet was abuzz about it? Give me a break. And yeah I will mention Dan Dilger when and if I want to, I didn't police anyone here on mentioning or name dropping anyone. Does it hurt that Dan thinks Rose is a hack? Does it hurt (some) that Dilger is by far and away a better writer and technologist than the tv kid?

Putting your text in large is obnoxious. As is persisting to make your point after being banned - obviously that meant nobody cared for your opinion, but you still felt that urge to let us all know anyway.

LargER font is there for a reason. I am not explaining it to you , I can't be bother, figure it out. If I persist in making a point or not is none of your f. business. Who the made you point police all of a sudden?
 
He called nothing. He just made the same sweeping generalizations that others have been making. "Claiming" to have real information does NOT in fact make it any more real than "speculation".

Having other sites "back-up" his claims is actually backwards, the other sites have had this type of info forever, and he just packages it into tiny wow bites that mac users really eat up. He's a showman taking credit for other people's work.

Now to the others saying "the event's gonna suck if he's right", WHY? Why are you assuming that his information is ALL the information? He's just pumping up existing rumors, if this was everything, Apple would have shut him up before we new about it. iPod Touch 2.1 but nothing about higher capacity?

There will be more, and it will be big.


But now that I think of it, with all this need to know before the event, breaking NDA's, Jobs should just get up on stage and pull everything out of his pockets, set it on a table, and say, "yeah here's the stuff you already know about, thanks for coming, and one more thing- F*CK YOU". ...sorry

Amen.:apple:
 
and his ability to make a multi-million dollar web startup with Digg shows us that he's not just bored - he's got the money to go out having fun, or buy another startup.

Ha,ha,ha...the only multi million dollar about Digg is the money that has been put IN, not the money that has been generated. I am sure all the .com bubbles were "multi-million dollar web startups". But of course it's the internet, where everyone is an imaginary millionaire...
 
Does anyone even care about digg.com? Personally I have never visited that site once in my entire life.
 
only 18 hours to go...

then the "speculation" and arguing over who is right and who is wrong with their guesses (and media whoring <g>) will be over and we can focus on whether we like the new stuff or should we buy the current ones before they run out.

i'm just glad i get to sleep a few hours in between so i don't have to read anymore petty in-fighting... (oh yes, I could stop reading these threads but i was hoping someone might have some ideas/knowledge/insight before the event).
 
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