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iTunes 8, Playlist Recommendations, Visualizations

Craigy said:
Yes - I really hope they sort out categorisation for movies etc. I have my DVD collection and a couple of hundred family videos - accessing these from AppleTV is a real pain at the moment.
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I hope they allow the storage of video and music on different drives within the same "library". Forcing video to be on the same drive as music (assuming that you want to keep your libraries organized) seems dumb to me, and really inconvenient for those of us with very large music and video collections.

I'd like to see iTunes be able to read and store DVD images as well. All this conversion crap is really for the birds.
 
Kilamite said:
Unless iTunes connects your Artist, Album and Track names together and gets the genre automatically. In fact, if it connected just Artist and Album together to get both the Album and Genre, that'd be a great help.
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Nice idea, that would be fantastic, very excited if iTunes manages to automatically tag librarys based on a few correct entries.

My only concern would be the amount of music I have that is rather unknown. I have at least a couple of thousand songs that aren't in the iTunes store for example.
 
xJulianx said:
No, ignorance is ratting on about some "bozo" when you have no real knowledge of their track record.

Rose's rumor track record: 3 right, 2 wrong, 1 part right.

Not "99% wrong" as you put it.
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But where's he right at? At what the concensus knows to be 95% true, pretty much everyone is right there...

See what a real apple authority Danny Dilger at roughly drafted has got to say about this bozo Rose and get a clue:

"Kevin Rose has been trying his hand at making broad sweeping generalizations about the next generation of iPods, but sorry, no digg. Most of his predictions are not even original, and those that are are so vague that they’re really just worthless"

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/0...-21-itunes-80/
 
xJulianx said:
No, ignorance is ratting on about some "bozo" when you have no real knowledge of their track record.

Rose's rumor track record: 3 right, 2 wrong, 1 part right.

Not "99% wrong" as you put it.
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He looks to be basically right this time. The Nano photo that he broke early on seems to be the real McCoy. His predictions about a major iTunes revision looks to be on the money as well.
 
I too am a bit worried about smart playlists based on genre. I had to change loads of mine as they too often come up with 'Alternative & Punk' :rolleyes:

Also I never use visualisers, so that's not too interesting for me.

Anyway, only one way to find out...
 
netdog said:
He looks to be basically right this time. The Nano photo that he broke early on seems to be the real McCoy. His predictions about a major iTunes revision looks to be on the money as well.
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He didn't break the nano photo I am sorry. As for the itunes revision it was a no brainer, like I said read danny's article to see how the pattern with itunes goes and how a no brainer it is to predict it. If the guy doesnt have inside info, which he obviously does not, there's no point in picking the concesus on a few easy guesses and throwing in so much where he is dead wrong.
 
jackfrost123 said:
But where's he right at? At what the concensus knows to be 95% true, pretty much everyone is right there...

See what a real apple authority Danny Dilger at roughly drafted has got to say about this bozo Rose and get a clue:

"Kevin Rose has been trying his hand at making broad sweeping generalizations about the next generation of iPods, but sorry, no digg. Most of his predictions are not even original, and those that are are so vague that they’re really just worthless"

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/0...-21-itunes-80/
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I am not interested in what other analysts have to say about each other, I am simply pointing out that your flaming of Kevin Rose isn't based on true fact.

His track record is not as abysmal as you claim it to be.

Arn said:
Right
- 3G iPhone with GPS
- 15" Intel MacBook, iPod FM receiver, iWork/iLife, New Remote etc..
- iPod Nano

Partly Right
- $200 iPhone pricing (but called it "low end")

Wrong
- Front sided camera of iPhone
- Dual battery, iPhone rumors
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capoeirista said:
I too am a bit worried about smart playlists based on genre. I had to change loads of mine as they too often come up with 'Alternative & Punk' :rolleyes:

Also I never use visualisers, so that's not too interesting for me.

Anyway, only one way to find out...
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I think that is a CDDB limitation, not iTunes. It's stilly I know, but I think they use over-expansive labels so they don't end up with 1000s. Still not all alternative is punk so it is annoying.
 
Casshan said:
The new visualizer has gotta be Magnetosphere. That would explain why the authors pulled it so long ago.
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While good, it isn't random enough.

If you are into visualisations, then check out Winamp's Milkdrop. Only downside is, you have to boot up Windows (Boot Camp to get the best fps). Wish they'd hurry up on the Mac version.
 
jackfrost123 said:
Who the f. is this guy Rose Arn? Is he the one who broadcasts from his grandmothers bedroom in front of a ladder? How come he's suddenly gained credibility when he's never gotten anything right before and doesn't seem to have any inside info from apple? What's his posision, is he employed? Are we supposed to get served whatever bozo spins in his sureal mind as a rumor?:mad:
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jackfrost123 said:
Yeah, wow I am so impressed, every other bozo has got their internet co. going, wait till dot com bubble no. 2. He should have moved out of his grandmothers already and stopped in broadcasting in front of ladders.
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LOL - you are writing this for our amusement, right?

BuddhaDog said:
The big deal besides a new nano and a touch, is that iTunes 8's music will be DRM free! That's what Rocks :p
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That could be it. I've been puzzling what could be so important and I can't think of anything really, but full DRM free iTunes could be the big bang. We know SJ has pushed for it right from day one, maybe he finally succeeded in getting through to the labels?

But on the other hand, way back at MacWorld Steve really made a point of saying that this year was going to see some really exceptional stuff. Just after he revealed the MacBook Air, he said something along the lines of "And we have a whole year to go - this is just the beginning.".

Yet so far, nothing really radical has come out. I'm not dissing the iPhone 3G or the upgraded iMacs, MacBooks and MacBook Pro's but none of them were really radically new. Everyone was predicting the features of the iPhone 3G in advance, the app store was open news, the speed bump upgrades to the computer hardware nothing out of the ordinary.

It's been quite a while since Steve gave us a real, game-changing surprise - probably since the original iPhone at MacWorld 2007.

Could this be the next big one?

EDIT - Well, maybe I overlooked the MacBook Air. :)
 
What needs to be done is for iTunes to store the library in a database format and not an xml file. xml for large libraries has become WAY TOO SLOW to parse.
 
Snollygoster said:
What needs to be done is for iTunes to store the library in a database format and not an xml file. xml for large libraries has become WAY TOO SLOW to parse.
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Yes! My library is quite large and takes a long time to load, a faster system would be nice.
The new iTunes visualizer sounds good too!
 
netdog said:
I hope they allow the storage of video and music on different drives within the same "library". Forcing video to be on the same drive as music (assuming that you want to keep your libraries organized) seems dumb to me, and really inconvenient for those of us with very large music and video collections.
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Try holding the option key when you drag a movie into iTunes. The copy will stay put on whatever hard drive you want, but still appear in your iTunes Movie Library.

I've got 300 movies on an external "Movies" drive, and 800 episodes of TV shows + 400 home movies on an external "TV Shows" drive, with only my music being auto-organized in the "iTunes Music" folder. All iTunes does with Movies is throw them all in one big folder anyhow, and TV Shows in a folder called "TV Shows" subfoldered by the show name...I can manage that myself on the externals. Everything shows up seamlessly within the iTunes Library, which is where I select and watch anyhow, and syncs to :apple:TV quite happily.
 
jackfrost123 said:
Who the f. is this guy Rose Arn? Is he the one who broadcasts from his grandmothers bedroom in front of a ladder? How come he's suddenly gained credibility when he's never gotten anything right before and doesn't seem to have any inside info from apple? What's his posision, is he employed? Are we supposed to get served whatever bozo spins in his sureal mind as a rumor?:mad:
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Do you have a personal problem with this guy or what?

If not, please stop attacking him as if you do. He's more credible than you are, and this forum is about credible rumors.

:apple:
 
Stuart in Oz said:
That could be it. I've been puzzling what could be so important and I can't think of anything really, but full DRM free iTunes could be the big bang. We know SJ has pushed for it right from day one, maybe he finally succeeded in getting through to the labels?
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Some might say he only pushed for it when he started getting heat from European consumer groups concerned about iTunes music not being playable on other hardware, but hey, if it happens it WILL be a big deal. Hopefully with a low cost upgrade for previous purchases.

Stuart in Oz said:
But on the other hand, way back at MacWorld Steve really made a point of saying that this year was going to see some really exceptional stuff. Just after he revealed the MacBook Air, he said something along the lines of "And we have a whole year to go - this is just the beginning.".

Yet so far, nothing really radical has come out.
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Doesn't he say something like this every year? :p
 
jackfrost123 said:
He didn't break the nano photo I am sorry. As for the itunes revision it was a no brainer, like I said read danny's article to see how the pattern with itunes goes and how a no brainer it is to predict it. If the guy doesnt have inside info, which he obviously does not, there's no point in picking the concesus on a few easy guesses and throwing in so much where he is dead wrong.
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If he didn't break the Nano photo then who did?

That photo of the new, longer, curved Nano was broken by him as far as all the subsequent reports of his predictions said. Where can you show me a photo that appeared before his prediction of what we now know is bound to be the new Nano?

Rose's photo was clearly the real thing, as evidenced by all the case pictures that have been published since.
 
blybug said:
Try holding the option key when you drag a movie into iTunes. The copy will stay put on whatever hard drive you want, but still appear in your iTunes Movie Library.

I've got 300 movies on an external "Movies" drive, and 800 episodes of TV shows + 400 home movies on an external "TV Shows" drive, with only my music being auto-organized in the "iTunes Music" folder. All iTunes does with Movies is throw them all in one big folder anyhow, and TV Shows in a folder called "TV Shows" subfoldered by the show name...I can manage that myself on the externals. Everything shows up seamlessly within the iTunes Library, which is where I select and watch anyhow, and syncs to :apple:TV quite happily.
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Oh wow! Thank you blybug! That is a BIG help!
 
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