iTunes and 16GB iPhone

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Such a mistake buying 16GB iPhone.

Here is the story, appology first if I posted in wrong section.

I was trying to rent a movie from iTunes on my 16GB iPhone SE. I searched on iTunes, found the movie and rent it. All goes well, except it tells me there is no enough room to download this movie.

I was wondering if I can streaming this movie, but it turns out you cannot. You have to download this stupid movie before you can watch it. Alright, fine. I will try it on my iPad with 64GB storage.

Fired up my iPad, went to iTunes, found the movie. Except this time, it asks me to pay for renting it again! I was like what the ****, I just paid this crap, why ask me pay again. Tried 3 different devices (other iPad, iPod Touch 128GB and computer), all asked me pay again. Finally, gave up and paid again.

This is rant. Do not get freaking 16GB iPhone, it is freaking useless. It might be fine when you are use it as dumb phone, but it total defeat the purpose of getting an iPhone. I might as well spend my money on cheap Android phone and enjoy more than 100 movies on real movie theatre.

Gee, why can you streaming movie on freaking Apple TV, but you cannot on freaking iPhone? I went to ask Apple Store employee, they told me that you have to watch rented movie on the device you rented from. Why????

Don't get 16GB iPhone. It is stupid.

Here is the receipt:

 

C DM

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Well, certainly depends on your needs/wants. Definitely plenty of people out there who don't rent or buy movies or even anything on iTunes or any other service, making this aspect of it all non-issue for them.
 
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Well, certainly depends on your needs/wants. Definitely plenty of people out there who don't rent or buy movies or even anything on iTunes or any other service, making this aspect of it all non-issue for them.

What is the point getting iPhone then. Anything meaningful will not fit on 16GB iPhone.

If you just use your iPhone as dumb phone, why not just save few hundred bucks and buy cheap flip phone or mid range Android. I certain flip phone will work just fine for calling, texting.
 
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C DM

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What is the point getting iPhone then. Anything meaningful will not fit on 16GB iPhone.

If you just use your iPhone as dumb phone, why not just save few hundred bucks and buy cheap flip phone or mid range Android. I certain flip phone will work just fine for calling, texting.
Plenty of things can be done on the iPhone without storing music or videos on it or even watching or listening to those. All kinds of apps, the full internet, email, etc. just to name a few basic things that are beyond a regular flip phone and don't involve something like storing movies or music. The variations are way way beyond the extremes of storing a lot of media and only making calls and sending texts.
 

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What is the point getting iPhone then. Anything meaningful will not fit on 16GB iPhone.

If you just use your iPhone as dumb phone, why not just save few hundred bucks and buy cheap flip phone or mid range Android. I certain flip phone will work just fine for calling, texting.
Some people would argue what is the point in watching a movie on a 4" screen? You would have been better of renting the movie on the computer in the first place.
 

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Your Apple TV is doing the same thing as your iPhone, iPad or even Mac. When you rent a movie it downloads it and once its finished, it will erase it. Otherwise there is the potential for buffering mid-stream and that would make people more upset overall. Your Apple TV has 8GB of memory dedicated for this purpose.

With that being said, when you rent a movie on one device it should be available on all devices until the rental period has expired. It was probably just a glitch. Contact Apple, I'm sure they will refund you.
 
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I've always had 16gb iPhones and have never had any type of storage issues.. until I got my 6+. It's been a tough time with this phone being 16gb. Everything is so much larger now. I'll def be going much higher in capacity on my next phone.
 

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I've always had 16gb iPhones and have never had any type of storage issues.. until I got my 6+. It's been a tough time with this phone being 16gb. Everything is so much larger now. I'll def be going much higher in capacity on my next phone.
Curious, how does the screen size relate to storage usage?
 

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Your Apple TV is doing the same thing as your iPhone, iPad or even Mac. When you rent a movie it downloads it and once its finished, it will erase it. Otherwise there is the potential for buffering mid-stream and that would make people more upset overall. Your Apple TV has 8GB of memory dedicated for this purpose.

With that being said, when you rent a movie on one device it should be available on all devices until the rental period has expired. It was probably just a glitch. Contact Apple, I'm sure they will refund you.

Thanks. Good to know. But I rent this movie on Japanese iTunes Store. Could understand Japanese, but could not speak. Not sure if Apple's Japanese customer service can speak English.

Anyway, Definitely not gonna buy 16GB iPhone again. 32GB is bar minimum
 

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Thanks. Good to know. But I rent this movie on Japanese iTunes Store. Could understand Japanese, but could not speak. Not sure if Apple's Japanese customer service can speak English.

Anyway, Definitely not gonna buy 16GB iPhone again. 32GB is bar minimum
Most people already know that 16gb is the least desirable. Just look at all the posts complaining that they are still selling it.

This time I went with a 128gb iPhone and couldn't be happier.
 

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Most people already know that 16gb is the least desirable. Just look at all the posts complaining that they are still selling it.

This time I went with a 128gb iPhone and couldn't be happier.
I think it's more like quite a few people here and similar communities see 16 GB as the last desirable, but that's still just a sub-group of a very small sub-section of the consumer base.
 

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I think it's more like quite a few people here and similar communities see 16 GB as the last desirable, but that's still just a sub-group of a very small sub-section of the consumer base.

I certainly don't get the defence of Apple still releasing 16GB iPhone.

While most flagship Android phone starts at 32GB, Apple should start at 32GB. If you want release iPhone with 16GB storage, do it with ability to expand storage.

On Android side, I have choice. On iPhone side, not so much. You either have to give up bunch of stuff that makes iPhone great or you have to drop 200 more dollars for 128GB.. So stupid.
 
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I certainly don't get the defence of Apple still releasing 16GB iPhone.

While most flagship Android phone starts at 32GB, Apple should start at 32GB. If you want release iPhone with 16GB storage, do it with ability to expand storage.

On Android side, I have choice. On iPhone side, not so much. You either have to give up bunch of stuff that makes iPhone great or you have to drop 200 more dollars for 128GB.. So stupid.
Don't think there's any defense going on as much as it apparently sells (or at least has been selling) for them, so not as much of a push to change thst. Hopefully they'll push it up this year finally.
 

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The apps size & iOS increase is a major factor.
Lets be honest no apps no iphone.
8 years ago apps were minuscule. Now a word update is 600mb approx
My updates are many GB a month.
Apps have definitely increased in size (fine) but you need more than 16GB in 2016 if you use your iPhone as Steve intended.
Times have moved on.
128GB iPhone 6 (10GB free)
 
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The apps size increase is a major problem.
Lets be honest no apps no iphone.
8 years ago apps were minuscule. Now a word update is 600mb approx
My updates are many GB a month.
Apps have definitely increased in size (fine) but you need more than 16GB in 2016 if you use your iPhone as Steve intended.
Times have moved on.
128GB iPhone 6 (10GB free)
Depends on the apps and how many are used. Many are still not that much and many people often don't use that many apps either. But, sure, that's certainly part of it all to one degree or another.
 

C DM

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Probably feels more inclined to download and watch videos on the larger display.
I thought of that possibility some time after I posted the question wondering about it, although that doesn't seem to be the case based on the reply.
 

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I didn't want to keep a flip phone because I wanted a good Camera with me, wanted Weather apps, wanted FaceTime, wanted some Music, wanted a good GPS & Maps, some internet and SIRI, and I have a 16 GB 6s which meets those needs. A flip phone does not OP. I don't watch movies, have a TV for that. You should have gotten a larger size. Could still if you had half a brain and noticed the movies did not fit. Had 14 days you know.
 

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I certainly don't get the defence of Apple still releasing 16GB iPhone.

While most flagship Android phone starts at 32GB, Apple should start at 32GB. If you want release iPhone with 16GB storage, do it with ability to expand storage.

On Android side, I have choice. On iPhone side, not so much. You either have to give up bunch of stuff that makes iPhone great or you have to drop 200 more dollars for 128GB.. So stupid.


Typical Storage needs:

Photos: There are plenty of cloud services that allow you to upload photos directly from your device and view them at any time without needing to keep a local copy. Google photos for examples offers unlimited storage. I have 2GB of photos on Google photos that I can browse from my phone without needing to keep a local copy of the stored photos (and its quick).

Music: On Demand Music streaming services like Spotify and Apple music have completely changed how people listen to music. Why limit your music by the amount of storage your phone has when you have access to an unlimited online library you can access at any time? No internet? no problem, download songs to listen to offline. Sure beats syncing with iTunes every time you want to change your music around a bit.

Documents: iCloud, Google Drive, Dropbox, One Drive. Pick a service. All of them can store documents for you.


With so much storage needs shifted to the cloud the only reason left to have more than 16GB local storage is you have tons of apps and play lots of games.

I bought a 64GB iPhone 6+ 2 years ago because there was no 32GB. The 16GB won't work for me because I play many games that are over 2GB in size.
 

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At the end of the day...YOU made the decision to buy the 16gb version. Don't blame Apple.

Apple will probably bump the base to 32gb, but won't happen until 2017.
 
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Typical Storage needs:

Photos: There are plenty of cloud services that allow you to upload photos directly from your device and view them at any time without needing to keep a local copy. Google photos for examples offers unlimited storage. I have 2GB of photos on Google photos that I can browse from my phone without needing to keep a local copy of the stored photos (and its quick).

Music: On Demand Music streaming services like Spotify and Apple music have completely changed how people listen to music. Why limit your music by the amount of storage your phone has when you have access to an unlimited online library you can access at any time? No internet? no problem, download songs to listen to offline. Sure beats syncing with iTunes every time you want to change your music around a bit.

Documents: iCloud, Google Drive, Dropbox, One Drive. Pick a service. All of them can store documents for you.


With so much storage needs shifted to the cloud the only reason left to have more than 16GB local storage is you have tons of apps and play lots of games.

I bought a 64GB iPhone 6+ 2 years ago because there was no 32GB. The 16GB won't work for me because I play many games that are over 2GB in size.
I cant make out what side you are on especially your 'music' argument.

I'm certain you are saying that 16GB is enough due to cloud solutions.
But on the music side with no internet it doesn't take long to fill 16GB with say Google Play Music for offline listening.
I have over 100GB for offline via GPM. 16GB really is not many albums at 320 kbps
 

Armen

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I cant make out what side you are on especially your 'music' argument.

I'm certain you are saying that 16GB is enough due to cloud solutions.
But on the music side with no internet it doesn't take long to fill 16GB with say Google Play Music for offline listening.
I have over 100GB for offline via GPM. 16GB really is not many albums at 320 kbps
Limited Internet access is indeed a pain point but it depends on where you live.
 

Shirasaki

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Thanks. Good to know. But I rent this movie on Japanese iTunes Store. Could understand Japanese, but could not speak. Not sure if Apple's Japanese customer service can speak English.

Anyway, Definitely not gonna buy 16GB iPhone again. 32GB is bar minimum
16GB is way too small for storing movies. Maybe, compressed songs? 200.

I have been in Japanese Store quite a long time. But, maybe support staff only know to speak Japanese. I don't know.
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Typical Storage needs:

Photos: There are plenty of cloud services that allow you to upload photos directly from your device and view them at any time without needing to keep a local copy. Google photos for examples offers unlimited storage. I have 2GB of photos on Google photos that I can browse from my phone without needing to keep a local copy of the stored photos (and its quick).

Music: On Demand Music streaming services like Spotify and Apple music have completely changed how people listen to music. Why limit your music by the amount of storage your phone has when you have access to an unlimited online library you can access at any time? No internet? no problem, download songs to listen to offline. Sure beats syncing with iTunes every time you want to change your music around a bit.

Documents: iCloud, Google Drive, Dropbox, One Drive. Pick a service. All of them can store documents for you.


With so much storage needs shifted to the cloud the only reason left to have more than 16GB local storage is you have tons of apps and play lots of games.

I bought a 64GB iPhone 6+ 2 years ago because there was no 32GB. The 16GB won't work for me because I play many games that are over 2GB in size.
A few things I will consider before "moving myself to the cloud".

Not every corner of the earth have cheap and reliable internet access. Plus there are countries blocking them.

Cloud music library literally is not "really unlimited", especially for Japanese songs. So many of them are "limited edition", or packed within a huge expensive BD Box. Those, you just cannot find them on Apple music at all. And, if publisher changes mind, and pull the plug, you will need to find other ways to listen to your favourite again.

Same as Documents. Putting everything in the cloud is not a good choice. And what if cloud service provider is offline? Or a file sharing service is ordered to shut down by local govt?
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Why not watch a movie on tv like normal people do???
Well, sometimes you just want to kill that boring 5 hrs train trip.
 
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