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iTunes Australia - Q1 2004?

iTMS Nigeria

Originally posted by Trowaman
How long until ITMS Nigeria
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The problem is just to avoid the high state taxes. But independent Nigerian music resellers are bound to make you an offer you just can't refuse 🙂
 
Not so sure...

Guys,

Apple Australia has not said this is true.

They have shown no interest in updating Sherlock with Australian content, they've shown no interest in getting .Mac offers such as cheap drives, rebates, in Australia, they've shown no interest in getting iPhotos book feature or on-line prints in Australia. What makes you think they would put in any effort here?

Apple Australia rarely know what is going on. They probably don't even know there is something called iTMS.
 
Apple is actually having to make iTunes store for each country in Europe due to the different licensing laws.
The reason I bet Apple hasn't released Musict Store already for some countries in Europe is because it's planning to release them in big worldwide event which would have bigger impact then opening just one store in one country at a time.

I betting they open the Canadian, Japan, Australia, and European stores at Macworld. I'm betting Korea will be joining this group shortly as well.
 
Re: Not so sure...

Originally posted by curmi
Guys,

Apple Australia has not said this is true.

They have shown no interest in updating Sherlock with Australian content, they've shown no interest in getting .Mac offers such as cheap drives, rebates, in Australia, they've shown no interest in getting iPhotos book feature or on-line prints in Australia. What makes you think they would put in any effort here?

Apple Australia rarely know what is going on. They probably don't even know there is something called iTMS.
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BUT ... I think the big difference here is that iTMS means increased sales of iPods which has been Job's plan all along. Apple doesn't really get much return for going to all the effort to make Sherlock for Oz for instance.

As an iPod owner, who's about to get broadband installed!!, I truly do hope we do see iTMS for Oz in Q1 2004. 😀
 
Re: Re: Australian iTMS

Originally posted by appleguy
Well in Apple's eyes I think New Zealand is considered to be a state of that big lump of dirt some people call Australia....
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Not just in Apple's eyes - AMCOS, the Australasian Mechanical Copyright Owner's Society that Apple are (probably) dealing with to license music for the iTMS "represents virtually all music publishers in Australia and New Zealand and, by way of reciprocal arrangements, the vast majority of the worlds composers, writers, and music publishers". Check out http://www.apra.com.au/About/AbIntro.htm

Hence, when the Australian iTMS is released, it's highly likely that NZ will be included as well.
 
There is a strong possibility that ITMS for Australia may result from minimal input from Apple.

What many may have overlooked is the trade agreement currently in negotiation between Australia and the US, which to say the least, is ground breaking and entirely un-precedented in the world.

The current draft (due for approval in the first quater of 2004) is said to be the most free trade agreement in existance with the US.

Perhaps this does not result from an Apple initiative, but instead from a break down in trade barriers.
 
i could say so much but one line is all that is needed... well 2 lines


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Re: Not so sure...

Originally posted by curmi
Guys,

Apple Australia has not said this is true.

They have shown no interest in updating Sherlock with Australian content, they've shown no interest in getting .Mac offers such as cheap drives, rebates, in Australia, they've shown no interest in getting iPhotos book feature or on-line prints in Australia. What makes you think they would put in any effort here?

Apple Australia rarely know what is going on. They probably don't even know there is something called iTMS.
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Right on.

Granted, they're brilliant at screwing ASP's and other non-AC dealers for every cent they can get.

Aside from that, Apple Australia are the most incompetent pack o'mongrels ever. They couldn't organize a pissup in a brewery.
 
Originally posted by Mattski
What many may have overlooked is the trade agreement currently in negotiation between Australia and the US, which to say the least, is ground breaking and entirely un-precedented in the world.
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Score one for the arselicker?

The Aussie-US proposed FTA is only groundbreaking if by the massive deception that the Coalition is taking part in. The ALP (even under Latham) will pick up a bunch of NP seats if Anderson and Howard appear to be doing nothing for Agro.

As we've seen with the recent EU steel tariff debate, the US will be concerned always with the US first. Until Aussie farmers get to impact the outcome of US elections, the GOP really couldn't give a crap.
 
Originally posted by j763
Score one for the arselicker?

The Aussie-US proposed FTA is only groundbreaking if by the massive deception that the Coalition is taking part in. The ALP (even under Latham) will pick up a bunch of NP seats if Anderson and Howard appear to be doing nothing for Agro.

As we've seen with the recent EU steel tariff debate, the US will be concerned always with the US first. Until Aussie farmers get to impact the outcome of US elections, the GOP really couldn't give a crap.
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Cockies aside, the proposed agreement should have a major impact on non-traditional trades, specifically intellectual property. In my opinion this is the ground-breaking component.

Although little-johny would sell his mrs to play with the big boys (I'd sell her too), I think it may represent some solid gains for Aus, particualrly in education and finance markets.

On the ITMS topic though, it would be great to see free trade, particularly when commonly US$0.99 = AU$1.99 despite the Aussie dollar.

We may even be able to order Apple hardware at US prices. AU$2499(+gst) for a 1.6ghz G5.

A little competition might even force Apple Australia to get off their arse. Now that would be something!!
 
Hello music store who said anything about free trade....!!!

jeez

and apple australia are some what slack yes
 
Re: Re: Not so sure...

Originally posted by j763
Aside from that, Apple Australia are the most incompetent pack o'mongrels ever. They couldn't organize a pissup in a brewery.
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Thats Wrong, they can organise a really good pissup.
Last time I was on that side of the ditch (on a personal holiday) and being in Sydney I poped in to see the guys in Apple Aust (the AppleCare team) the bash they had was really good. mind you it was just down at the local.
And if you are asking why I visited apple aust on a personal holiday, I was just in Sydney and I just wanted to put faces to the people I dealt with alot while Sydney was the central repair depo when iBooks/Cubes first came out.
 
Cross the Pond d/ls?

As someone who bought an Import CD from Oz mainly for 1 song, I'd love to have access to Oz music for D/L, even though Triple J is great source for Oz content when I'm at work. Wish Tripple J would stream on iTunes too. Hate Real Player pop up ads.
 
I thought the Aust music industry was de-regulated a couple of years ago.. which caused alot of press....

should this make it much easier for iTMS to come here?
The US - AUST FTA - well I'll only truly believe that one - after it gets signed! I for one don't believe it will be a truly unrestircted FTA - if it was - what are all the negotiation hiccups at the moment?!??!! Like stats - you can manipulate anything to say what you want.

I for one though am hanging out for an iTMS in OZ!
Bring it on! I'm still a PC user - but love iTUNES and my iPOD!
 
Originally posted by DJY
I thought the Aust music industry was de-regulated a couple of years ago.. which caused alot of press....

should this make it much easier for iTMS to come here?
The US - AUST FTA - well I'll only truly believe that one - after it gets signed! I for one don't believe it will be a truly unrestircted FTA - if it was - what are all the negotiation hiccups at the moment?!??!! Like stats - you can manipulate anything to say what you want.

I for one though am hanging out for an iTMS in OZ!
Bring it on! I'm still a PC user - but love iTUNES and my iPOD!
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I am waiting for iTMS in NZ as well, and from what I gather there should be something big in Steve Jobs's big speech at SFMW in 6-9 Jan 2004 regarding iTMS international which will likely include Canada, UK, and the European Countries iTMS announcement. Apple has had to Negotiate with each country for the DRM rights which is obviously a lenghty slow painfull legal process.
 
ok - so if Apple doesn't hurry up - I think they are about to loose alot of business -and potentially limit iPOD sales significantly in AUST!

I appreicate that they aren't making any real money out of iTMS... but instead want it everywhere - so people buy iPODs...

yet now Aust has at least TWO online music options now!
I think Chaos did the first (possibly with ninemsn - as I vaguely remember reading something somewhere)
and now even Telstra have jumped onto the bandwagon!!!!

SO getting the rights - can't be that difficult!

Found this today:

BigPond launches music download site


Telstra Corp Ltd's internet service provider BigPond has launched a new online music download site.

Telstra said BigPond customers would be able to download an extensive range of tracks from just $1.49 each, while non-BigPond customers can download a tune for $1.89 each.

BigPond managing director Justin Milne said BigPond was the first internet service provider in Australia to offer a music download site.

"Customers can now search for their favourite tracks, preview tracks on line, download them to their computer and either burn their personal selections onto CD-ROM or load them onto their portable digital players," Mr Milne said.

He said www.bigpondmusic.com would offer a wide range of major label and independent music.

Mr Milne said all users can pay for the tracks by credit card, while BigPond customers could also have the cost added their bill.

"And BigPond Music is `unmetered' for BigPond cable and ADSL customers who can download as many tracks as their want without this counting towards their monthly usage," he said.

Mr Milne said BigPond had collaborated with major music labels like Warner, Sony, EMI and Festival Mushroom Records, and more than 60 independent Australian record labels.

 
Originally posted by Phobophobia
Good news for Austrailians--Apple is finally caring about other countries.
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I love this comment from the article:

Ninemsn's use of the Windows Media format could cause problems for the service, music industry analyst Phil Tripp said. In the US, Napster 2.0 was selling only Windows Media format music and had sold around 200,000 songs since its relaunch in October, Mr Tripp said. In contrast, Apple's iTunes, which uses the AAC format, was selling around 1.5 million songs per week.

Nevertheless, the choice of the Windows Media format and the lack of user-friendly players were among the reasons it was "highly unlikely" that Ninemsn's service would make money, Mr Tripp said.

From what I have heard is that iTMS for NZ should be not too far behind iTMS Australia 🙂
 
Hmmm everyone and his dog is a it and then the cat. I dont get it if its been proven that Music dosnt make a profit from online why are they all doing it. i am i missing somthing dose telstra no somthing i dont...


So much for the big anoncments about Music at Expo 04 wooppie garage band is so iTms..


oh well heres to next year
 
iTunes for Down Under

I know the Apple NZ distributor guys pretty well - even been for a sail on Mal's frikkin big boat...

I got a rather cryptic message from one of them hinting at big changes ahead... WTS!! 😀

Anyway the outfit that collects royalties in this part of the world for music is APRA - Australasian Performing Rights Association... Australasia is Australia and NZ for you northern folk.

Just hanging around waiting for the ball to drop on this one!!



😀 😀 😀
 
Re: iTunes for Down Under

Originally posted by fatbarstard
I got a rather cryptic message from one of them hinting at big changes ahead... WTS!! 😀

Just hanging around waiting for the ball to drop on this one!!
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Whats WTS stand for mate?

And did they give you any idea on timeline?!?!?!?!
 
iTunes Music Store in Australia will finally give Australian's a chance to use the app to its full capacity. Can't wait for a future announcement by Apple.😀
 
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