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ARIA plans download chart
Kate Mackenzie
JANUARY 20, 2004
THE music industry is finally coming to terms with the digital age, with plans to produce a new chart of songs purchased over the internet.
Traditionally at odds with the internet over illegal song-swapping services such as the original version of Napster, and more recently, Kazaa, the industry has struggled with the concept of legitimising online music sales.
But the advent of legal music download services has changed that, and the Australian Recording Industry Association is planning to produce a chart of the most popular songs sold by internet retailers.
ARIA chief executive Stephen Peach was not available to comment yesterday, but Australian IT understands the industry body is considering how to compile such a chart, and examining similar attempts by its counterparts overseas.
However music industry commentator Phil Tripp said many companies would stumble in the race to launch online music stores.
"They're too fast to the market; there's not enough quality, not enough quantity, and the pricing's not right," Mr Tripp said.
ARIA plans download chart
Kate Mackenzie
JANUARY 20, 2004
THE music industry is finally coming to terms with the digital age, with plans to produce a new chart of songs purchased over the internet.
Traditionally at odds with the internet over illegal song-swapping services such as the original version of Napster, and more recently, Kazaa, the industry has struggled with the concept of legitimising online music sales.
But the advent of legal music download services has changed that, and the Australian Recording Industry Association is planning to produce a chart of the most popular songs sold by internet retailers.
ARIA chief executive Stephen Peach was not available to comment yesterday, but Australian IT understands the industry body is considering how to compile such a chart, and examining similar attempts by its counterparts overseas.
However music industry commentator Phil Tripp said many companies would stumble in the race to launch online music stores.
"They're too fast to the market; there's not enough quality, not enough quantity, and the pricing's not right," Mr Tripp said.
...if it happens in OZ it happened because someone from the States made it happen - it wasn't from the drones at Apple Australia.
re: FTA agreement. Howard will sell out anything to get it - The PBS will be modifed if the yanks really push hard against it and you can forget Australian content getting any favours.
DGMW - they are nice guys to deal with but when it comes to making **** happen, look elsewhere.
re: FTA agreement. Howard will sell out anything to get it - The PBS will be modifed if the yanks really push hard against it and you can forget Australian content getting any favours.
DGMW - they are nice guys to deal with but when it comes to making **** happen, look elsewhere.
The average Australian doesn't want to pay for music downloads infact the average Australian doesn't really want to pay for anything at all (note the ever increasing number of dole bludgers,) Except for beer.
We don't pay directly for uni (thank god,) and in the weekend paper and 'Trading post' there are more often then not adds offerng burnt console and PC games and other software.
When not if, iTMS comes to the land of OZ I don't doubt that it will be a flop.
We don't pay directly for uni (thank god,) and in the weekend paper and 'Trading post' there are more often then not adds offerng burnt console and PC games and other software.
When not if, iTMS comes to the land of OZ I don't doubt that it will be a flop.
Geez you paint us like a bunch of losers! Do I smell an ex-pat?
I must say your description is very 1975. Mate I am no ocker...are you from Kalgoorlie or Bourke or somethin'?
Australians won't pay for their music...I think they will but not from iTMS becasue Apple Australia won't tell them about it!
BTW: We WILL all be paying for our education in less than 5 years (30% already buy their way into a Uni).
I must say your description is very 1975. Mate I am no ocker...are you from Kalgoorlie or Bourke or somethin'?
Australians won't pay for their music...I think they will but not from iTMS becasue Apple Australia won't tell them about it!
BTW: We WILL all be paying for our education in less than 5 years (30% already buy their way into a Uni).
Re: Australian iTMS
But since Apple in NZ is run out of Sydney, and the APRA/AMCOS licensing generally covers both markets, we might be in luck.
Hear hear! For once, let hope they think we're part of Australia! On second thoughts...
But since Apple in NZ is run out of Sydney, and the APRA/AMCOS licensing generally covers both markets, we might be in luck.
Read my profile, I'm a mining engineering student from Adelaide, and have lived there my whole life. And I think anyone from Kalgoorlie or Bourke, would be very offended if they read what you wrote.
Ask yourself this: If you could download a music track for free, or pay a $1.50, what would you do? Or a better example If I offered you a copy of Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator and After Effects for free, would you take them, or would you could buy them for several thousend dollars?
As Becker said "Hey, Free's Free"
Courtesy of someone very well placed in the music industry Apple's Australian iTMS should be open in the next few weeks apparently.
As for whether or not people would pay given I was looking at CDs today that cost between $25 or $30. I'd be inclined to say there is a market for songs at $1.50 and albums for $15.
As for picking on mining towns it's worth mentioning a lot of people in those towns are well paid by the mining companies that employ them. Given there is nothing to spend your money on out there they end up having quite tidy sums of spending money. I know quite a few people who set themselves up early in life by working for mining companies first few years out of uni and saving a tidy nest egg very quickly.
You'll find many people on welfare reside in the cities. You will also find quite a few people who should be ineligible for it rorting the system too.
As for whether or not people would pay given I was looking at CDs today that cost between $25 or $30. I'd be inclined to say there is a market for songs at $1.50 and albums for $15.
As for picking on mining towns it's worth mentioning a lot of people in those towns are well paid by the mining companies that employ them. Given there is nothing to spend your money on out there they end up having quite tidy sums of spending money. I know quite a few people who set themselves up early in life by working for mining companies first few years out of uni and saving a tidy nest egg very quickly.
You'll find many people on welfare reside in the cities. You will also find quite a few people who should be ineligible for it rorting the system too.
good points Telomar, a most eloqent gentleman you seem.
Back to the gruff . I damn well hope Apple Aus. starts telling people they can use iTMS here, if like what you say happens within days.
Apple has a very short window to corner the Australian market. Packer and MSN (including Telstra makes an tri-axis) will saturate the market with their local marketing dominance (and mind numbingly simplistic but influential cross-media brainwashing...think "The Bock" etc.).
No. Sadly I am calling that Apple will be a minnow inthe Australian market purely because of their lack of visibility. Its a pity they never made a deal with the likes of Optus or such.
(people in glass mines shouldn't throw stones...but people outside them can throw as many as they like!)
Back to the gruff . I damn well hope Apple Aus. starts telling people they can use iTMS here, if like what you say happens within days.
Apple has a very short window to corner the Australian market. Packer and MSN (including Telstra makes an tri-axis) will saturate the market with their local marketing dominance (and mind numbingly simplistic but influential cross-media brainwashing...think "The Bock" etc.).
No. Sadly I am calling that Apple will be a minnow inthe Australian market purely because of their lack of visibility. Its a pity they never made a deal with the likes of Optus or such.
(people in glass mines shouldn't throw stones...but people outside them can throw as many as they like!)
Re: Re: Australian iTMS
Correction fearless, Apple NZ is run through Renaissance Group from Auckland although your probably right about the APRA bit.
Correction fearless, Apple NZ is run through Renaissance Group from Auckland although your probably right about the APRA bit.
Originally posted by doogle
...hence they wil spend money on buying music bannedagain and that contradicts your original post - go back into your hole!
Hey thats funny!
I will buy music, however I will buy it in the form of a CD, SACD, DVD-A, (Laser Disc,) or a format yet to be released eg blue ray DVD. When I buy something I like to have something material to show for it. Call me old school but that's just how it is.
I for one will definitely buy online music - legally!
And I suspect it will actually INCREASE the amount of money I spend on music!
I used to buy album if I liked one or maybe two songs - from an artist...
and havent bought a single - since I was early twenties...
but with online music I'm most likely more likely to buy the odd single / hit / one off song that I like - to leave it on my iPOD!
That's if they hurry up? Otherwise WMA and the other current online players might corner the market... as many people might not necessarily be aware of all the WMA vs AAC vs MP3 issues / limitations and complications.
And I suspect it will actually INCREASE the amount of money I spend on music!
I used to buy album if I liked one or maybe two songs - from an artist...
and havent bought a single - since I was early twenties...
but with online music I'm most likely more likely to buy the odd single / hit / one off song that I like - to leave it on my iPOD!
That's if they hurry up? Otherwise WMA and the other current online players might corner the market... as many people might not necessarily be aware of all the WMA vs AAC vs MP3 issues / limitations and complications.
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Lets hope this rumour is TRUE!!! from .Australian IT News
Unwired hints at iTunes link
Chris Jenkins
AUGUST 19, 2004
FRESHLY hatched wireless ISP Unwired has hinted that the alliance it has forged with Apple could see the two partner on a music service within a month.
Unwired already offers subscribers special deals on Apple's AirPort Express wireless hub, but the relationship would expand to offer more services in about a month's time, Unwired chief executive David Spence said at the formal launch of Unwired's wireless broadband service.
The Apple partnership would involve "music in particular," Mr Spence said. "We think music is a good idea."
Without specifically saying that partnership would involve Apple's iTunes Music Store, Mr Spence said that Apple's music download service would be available locally, and that Apple would need broadband connections to make the service work well.
Credited with sparking interest in legal music downloads when launched in the US in April 2003, Apple's iTunes Music Store has since become available in the UK and Europe, but has yet to arrive in Australia. Apple Australia has consistently refused to comment on when and if the service would be available locally.
Mr Spence said Unwired had now installed 68 base stations in Sydney - the only market in which the service is available thus far. The company would expand to other markets once it was satisfied with the uptake of the service in Sydney. In order to break even in Sydney, Unwired would need 50,000 to 70,000 subscribers, Mr Spence said. Up to 500,000 customers could be supported in the Sydney region, he said.
Mr Spence previously told The Australian that the company expected to have 100,000 subscribers within a year. Services in Melbourne and the Gold Coast would be available before the end of the year, he saidAustralian IT News
Lets hope this rumour is TRUE!!! from .Australian IT News
Unwired hints at iTunes link
Chris Jenkins
AUGUST 19, 2004
FRESHLY hatched wireless ISP Unwired has hinted that the alliance it has forged with Apple could see the two partner on a music service within a month.
Unwired already offers subscribers special deals on Apple's AirPort Express wireless hub, but the relationship would expand to offer more services in about a month's time, Unwired chief executive David Spence said at the formal launch of Unwired's wireless broadband service.
The Apple partnership would involve "music in particular," Mr Spence said. "We think music is a good idea."
Without specifically saying that partnership would involve Apple's iTunes Music Store, Mr Spence said that Apple's music download service would be available locally, and that Apple would need broadband connections to make the service work well.
Credited with sparking interest in legal music downloads when launched in the US in April 2003, Apple's iTunes Music Store has since become available in the UK and Europe, but has yet to arrive in Australia. Apple Australia has consistently refused to comment on when and if the service would be available locally.
Mr Spence said Unwired had now installed 68 base stations in Sydney - the only market in which the service is available thus far. The company would expand to other markets once it was satisfied with the uptake of the service in Sydney. In order to break even in Sydney, Unwired would need 50,000 to 70,000 subscribers, Mr Spence said. Up to 500,000 customers could be supported in the Sydney region, he said.
Mr Spence previously told The Australian that the company expected to have 100,000 subscribers within a year. Services in Melbourne and the Gold Coast would be available before the end of the year, he saidAustralian IT News
Brilliant news reporting isn't it.
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- iTunes Australia
Don't you love it
It is a pain but i still love Apple
