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iTunes Canada - June 15th too?
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Shagrat said:
Apple don't put the effort in, because there's less profit to be had. Therefore, they make less profit.... Vicious cycle.
I really, really want to be wrong, but I agree with you - too little, too late.
iTMS Canada/UK -- new version of iTunes?
Will there be a new version of iTunes to escalate the FairPlay war? I hope not. I want to excercise my fair use rights, which should be illegal to sign away.
Will there be a new version of iTunes to escalate the FairPlay war? I hope not. I want to excercise my fair use rights, which should be illegal to sign away.
Wonder if we'll have that same ITMS with Canadian dollars or an ITMSC with the Canadian content right up front, eh? er... y'all.
DJMad said:
I didn't release that there was that few people in Canada, there are 60million in the UK alone.
hvfsl said:
the reason canada has so few people even though its the 2nd largest nation in land size is that much of the northern land there in unlivable. only Eskimo's really have the skills to live that far north. a good chunk of canada's land is above the arctic circle.
Confirmed: iTMS Europe will open on June 15!
According to AI, Steve Jobs has confirmed the launch of iTMS Europe on June 15. However, Canada was not mentioned.
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=484
According to AI, Steve Jobs has confirmed the launch of iTMS Europe on June 15. However, Canada was not mentioned.
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=484
It would be nice to launch Canada with Europe. With other services in both areas, Apple needs to get its butt going. They lost the McD's promo, were not the first major legal download in Europe or Canada. I'm sure they can still win the hearts and minds as the ipod is just red hot all over - but wait too much longer and the ipod sales may drop off outside the US if they can't sync their music. And please don't flame me - I'm sure there are ways around like buring a CD and re-ripping to MP3, but most people don't want that trouble. That is what makes iTunes/iPod so nice - it is easily seemless.
blue&whiteman said:
Yeah, I'm always amazed that UK is 1/5 the size of Quebec with 2 x as many people as our whole country. And there are STILL "C" roads in Britain and old trails that have been in existance for a long time. In Canada, if it's not paved, it "isn't" a road for the most part.
But damnit, I want iTunes here.
bob_the_gorilla said:
I disagree... the UK is the Worlds 3rd largest music market, and one of the largest consumer of iPods as well. (2nd behind the U.S.?) and as such Apple will be wanting a big share of that, and the tasty profit margins that go with selling products here.
There are reasons for Apple taking so long to deploy a European iTMS, and it can be laid squarely at the feet of the record companies.
hvfsl said:
The reason is, who wants to live in a place where it is bloody cold in the winter which starts in november and stays until around april. and summer that is so damn hot and humid (at least in montreal, don't really know about the rest of the country)
and it would have to have french music, or it would lose out on about 90% of canada's second largest population, which is about 90% of is french 7% english and the rest like chinese and stuff. granted french people listen to american music, we still have a lot of good french music.
aethier
Zaty said:
Too bad for you Canadians, but great for you Euros. I'm glad Apple's finally gotten this worked out. The iTMS has been long overdue over there. Has anyone dug through iTunes 4.6 to check for mention of a Euro Music Store?
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I think Canada/Japan/Europe or Asia Pacific countries (perhaps Australia-where there are many Destra provided music stores, but not Apple's) should get ITMS next-see already iPhoto printing services were made available in Europe/Japan this year, it'd be logical for those two places for a ITMS launch next.
iGAV said:
I concur, sir.
I've heard many unprompted casual references to the iPod from people of whom I wouldn't have thought interested.
Also, my brother, a border-line techno phobe, heard about the iTMS Eurpoe starting up on Tuesday, and totally understood it's implication on the moosic scene.
In the homeland of Jonathon Ive, I'd say Apple had good face.
aethier said:
I wish! Winter starts in early October and lasts until mid May in Edmonton. And the summer is not only hot, but filled with mosquitos the size of helicopters.
Still, it's not really that bad a place to live. Great University, excellent festivals, nice-sized city (big enough to have everything one might want, but small enough not to be plagued with big-city-problems), and a good economy. It's also really nice in the fall (after the first frost kills the 'skeeters but before it starts getting cold).
But the worst thing about living in Edmonton is the lack of the iTMS!
I just saw this in a flyer....Future Shop is opening a download service tomorrow - Bonfire. Looks like it is just a rebranding of Puretracks though.
http://bonfire.puretracks.com/en/Default.aspx
http://bonfire.puretracks.com/en/Default.aspx
aethier said:
I realize the above individual is joking, but when I read that I just had to register and say something. First of all, to the individual who agrandized Edmonton, it needs to be said that Edmonton is a hole (I lived there long enough to know). On the other hand, the winters here in Vancouver get about as cold as they do in London, and last about four months at the most. There's beautiful beaches, mountains and the ocean surrounding the city and everyone speaks English. The summers aren't nearly as hot as they are in the rest of the country, and this city is known as one of the most beautiful in the world. There's also a hell of alot more to do here than Edmonton (let's be realistic buddy, there's nothing to do in Edmonton).
And I was also wondering, how will they set up the pricing for international users? Will it automatically send users to the Canada store, or will we have access to the same store and there will be some kind of currency conversion?
I wonder how they'll do it...
Na'im.
oh?
I thought the levy was dumped a few months ago. I tried to figure out how much gets to the artist... apparently a significant amount was actually getting back.
Jim_N_Tonik said:
I thought the levy was dumped a few months ago. I tried to figure out how much gets to the artist... apparently a significant amount was actually getting back.
Duff-Man says....when was the last time the Canadian government ever got rid of a tax/levy....it just doesn't happen...they like the $$$ too much. Apple Canada still collects the levy on iPod sales - it has not been "repealed"....oh yeah!iLilana said:
FutureShop.ca now offering a download service, too.
You know, there's being beaten to the punch, and there's just not trying at all.
Today, FutureShop.ca launches Bonfire, the third music download service available in Canada. Prices for tracks start at 99¢ CDN. Of course, it requires Windows. Here's the standard warning for those of use with Macs:
"We value our Mac audience, however the Windows Media Player for the Mac platform is not currently compatible with Microsoft protected audio content. Bonfire is currently working to make our service available to Mac users."
I no longer hold out much hope for iTMS Canada. There's three services currently available, saturating an already small market. I don't know how Apple could possibly get a foothold at this point, since there are so many alternatives for the biggest segment of the target market -- Windows users.
It's really disappointing. Licensing in Canada is nowhere near as complex as licensing in Europe. I understand that Europe is a bigger market, but I fail to see why the two could not have been built/developed at the same time.
Oh well.
You know, there's being beaten to the punch, and there's just not trying at all.
Today, FutureShop.ca launches Bonfire, the third music download service available in Canada. Prices for tracks start at 99¢ CDN. Of course, it requires Windows. Here's the standard warning for those of use with Macs:
"We value our Mac audience, however the Windows Media Player for the Mac platform is not currently compatible with Microsoft protected audio content. Bonfire is currently working to make our service available to Mac users."
I no longer hold out much hope for iTMS Canada. There's three services currently available, saturating an already small market. I don't know how Apple could possibly get a foothold at this point, since there are so many alternatives for the biggest segment of the target market -- Windows users.
It's really disappointing. Licensing in Canada is nowhere near as complex as licensing in Europe. I understand that Europe is a bigger market, but I fail to see why the two could not have been built/developed at the same time.
Oh well.
Actually, if you count Bonfire as a separate service, then there are currently actually four services in Canada:
-Futureshop's Bonfire
-Puretracks
-Napster
-ArchambaultZIK.ca - the french language service of the large Quebec music store Archambault
Given this, there should be ZERO legal/logistical hurdles to opening ITMS Canada
Cless said:
Should be interesting to see. I've noticed that some iTMS albums are now carrying "U.S./International Version" or "U.S. Version" labels. I guess we just have to wait and see if that's to allow more than one release to be available in every market, or album availability will end up being market-specific.
Don't forget we have Sony's Connect in Canada, they have a deal with McDonalds now, buy a Big Mac, get a free song. However, it really just uses pureTracks.