I haven't read all 22 pages but what I am wondering is how do we play local media on our Apple TVs now? To me that is the major use of iTunes today, managing my local library and feeding it out. I just changed to Windows and am using iTunes on windows now. So what happens? will there be a windows app that maintains the itunes library and streams it to my Apple TVs? And don't same Plex/XBMC because I hate those.
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iTunes Expected to Be Retired After Over 18 Years
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They will probably make a separate app and call it Music, Videos, Apple TV or something like that.
1. How have you not done this already? Many people have done what you're talking about...and finished this process years ago. If you're late to the game, you shouldn't expect it to to wait for you.
2. This is what iTunes Match was and is for. You rip your collection, it is matched against the same content in the iTunes Store, and you are awarded a copy (a high quality AAC copy direct from master) from iTunes.
3. These days, we have iCloud Music Library. Anything you add manually to iTunes (from CD, or wherever) is uploaded and made part of your Library, which is instantly available across all of your devices. This is better than syncing, and designed to replace syncing. Only the most stubborn or niche users don't acknowledge that.
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I don't think you know what you're talking about. I have hundreds of ebook files, not purchased from Apple, that were manually added to Books on the Mac and guess what....? All are available across all of my devices via iCloud.
iCloud is just automatic wireless syncing, with smart storage management, when it comes to any personal, non-Apple content. Books works this way, and so does iCloud Music Library. Only Video has yet to work this way, which I'm sure is a combination of rights issues and the sheer size of cloud storage per video. But personal movie/tv shows files are a very sticky matter, because they are covered by entirely different licensing, and the odds of them being pirated content instead of legitimately owned, DRM free digital video, is next to nil.
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I think something was wrong with your Books app. I've been dragging and dropping DRM free ebooks and pdfs in my Books app was a while and never had any sort of issues opening or syncing through iCloud.
As read in most other articles, iOS syncing is not going away. Neither is your personal music library. TV shows and movies (though won't sync through iCloud for obvious reasons) should still be in your library tab when you sync from your Mac. Also both Apple and Google are compatible with Movies Anywhere which would allow you to sync your Purchased Movie Libraries through both services (No TV shows yet).
As a 15-year Apple fan / iPod & iPhone & Mac user / tech enthusiast, eliminating the ability to sync my phone & iPod to the computer for backups and music files would cause me to seriously re-evaluate my daily drivers (switch from iPhone to Android, switch from Mac to PC, etc.). As my sig shows, most all my tech is aging and primed for upgrade over the next year.
I'm waiting to watch WWDC keynote to see exactly how this post-iTunes world is set up, and will withhold my judgement until then.
I'm waiting to watch WWDC keynote to see exactly how this post-iTunes world is set up, and will withhold my judgement until then.
Is there a way of saving my library in some way that retains all the relevant data like ratings, play counts etc? Would like to keep it in case there's a way of then importing it to a new program or something.
Thank the lord, finally the end to the worst piece of software ever developed. And yes that means it’s worse than Windows. So many ui flaws to mention like when you drag a flac file into it and it just responds with... nothing. No error... nothing. I get you don’t support flac (you really should, but that’s a different argument). But to just act like it’s worked. With no indication otherwise.... I’m a software developer and every course I’ve ever done and every book I’ve ever read states you should never ever do what iTunes does, bizarrely Apple ignores all with iTunes. Everything else by Apple though-sheer brilliance
Apple will be replacing iTunes with standalone Music, TV, and Podcasts apps in the next major version of macOS, expected to be unveiled at WWDC 2019 next week, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman:This information lines up with a recent report from 9to5Mac's Guilherme Rambo, who claimed that iTunes will be renamed to "Music" on the Mac. In other words, iTunes is going away and will be replaced by the new Music app, which is expected to become the new utility for syncing and managing Apple devices.
Steve Jobs quote from Apple's press release about iTunes in 2001:Here's what iTunes looked like in 2001:
iTunes has attracted its fair share of criticism over the years for being bloated software, so its split into dedicated Music, TV, and Podcasts apps will be much welcomed. Earlier this week, leaked screenshots provided us with our first glimpse at what the Music and TV apps should look like on macOS 10.15.
Apple is widely expected to announce iOS 13, macOS 10.15, watchOS 6, and tvOS 13 at its WWDC 2019 opening keynote on Monday at 10 a.m. Pacific Time. MacRumors will have live coverage of the event on our website and through MacRumorsLive on Twitter, so be sure to follow along for the latest updates.
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Apple will be replacing iTunes with standalone Music, TV, and Podcasts apps in the next major version of macOS, expected to be unveiled at WWDC 2019 next week, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman:This information lines up with a recent report from 9to5Mac's Guilherme Rambo, who claimed that iTunes will be renamed to "Music" on the Mac. In other words, iTunes is going away and will be replaced by the new Music app, which is expected to become the new utility for syncing and managing Apple devices.
Steve Jobs quote from Apple's press release about iTunes in 2001:Here's what iTunes looked like in 2001:
iTunes has attracted its fair share of criticism over the years for being bloated software, so its split into dedicated Music, TV, and Podcasts apps will be much welcomed. Earlier this week, leaked screenshots provided us with our first glimpse at what the Music and TV apps should look like on macOS 10.15.
Apple is widely expected to announce iOS 13, macOS 10.15, watchOS 6, and tvOS 13 at its WWDC 2019 opening keynote on Monday at 10 a.m. Pacific Time. MacRumors will have live coverage of the event on our website and through MacRumorsLive on Twitter, so be sure to follow along for the latest updates.
Article Link: iTunes Expected to Be Retired After Over 18 Years[/QUOTE]
While it was initially reported that iTunes would live on in macOS 10.15, it now looks like the app will be retired, over 18 years after it was introduced by the late Steve Jobs at Macworld on January 9, 2001.
Apple will be replacing iTunes with standalone Music, TV, and Podcasts apps in the next major version of macOS, expected to be unveiled at WWDC 2019 next week, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman:This information lines up with a recent report from 9to5Mac's Guilherme Rambo, who claimed that iTunes will be renamed to "Music" on the Mac. In other words, iTunes is going away and will be replaced by the new Music app, which is expected to become the new utility for syncing and managing Apple devices.
Steve Jobs quote from Apple's press release about iTunes in 2001:Here's what iTunes looked like in 2001:
iTunes has attracted its fair share of criticism over the years for being bloated software, so its split into dedicated Music, TV, and Podcasts apps will be much welcomed. Earlier this week, leaked screenshots provided us with our first glimpse at what the Music and TV apps should look like on macOS 10.15.
Apple is widely expected to announce iOS 13, macOS 10.15, watchOS 6, and tvOS 13 at its WWDC 2019 opening keynote on Monday at 10 a.m. Pacific Time. MacRumors will have live coverage of the event on our website and through MacRumorsLive on Twitter, so be sure to follow along for the latest updates.
Article Link: iTunes Expected to Be Retired After Over 18 Years
I keep seeing people say the UI is lousy now and pine for the old days. I agree - the default UI is lousy, but with a few settings tweaks, I'm able to get it pretty close to the way it used to be. What am I missing?
I would send that stuff through 5 or 6 different file systems, and store it on a Raspberry pi with no wifi connection, until the fecal matter has stopped hitting the fan.
3.5" floppies would not be going too far. Macs don't handle those well, so use a PC, NTFS format.
Currently I log into iTunes to add an iTunes card I purchased to keep my nextflix subscription current. Going forward with iTunes being RIP is the new app called "Music" going to be available for download on current OS such as mine El Capitan 10.11.6 for subscriptions.
If you still holding iTunes gift cards on your hand. Do not worry. The iTunes gift cards are gift cards for all. Actually, iTunes gift cards are always the universal gift cards for iMusic, iBook and App store, even in in-App purchase. It is just Apple gift cards for all things in your iPhone, iMac, macbook, and Apple TV. They are good for music, books, TV shows, movies, Games, Apps, in-App in-Game purchase. Once you redeem the gift cards,, the dollar amount become your apple account balance and can be used for all things you need in your devices.
Haha. Bit harsh but on the money.
Like you I won't stream music whilst I have the option to listen to my own music library for free.
Apple's MO has been about paid services for quite a while now. I guess they have to continue to find revenue streams though. But I'm going to resist as long as I can. I paid a fortune for CDs and DVDs back in the day and my contribution to the movie and music industry has been significant compared to 99.9% of young people paying 10 bucks a month streaming over apple music. And yes... I want a medal AND a gold star.
It's not clear you have to update I'm running 10.4.1 (from 2011) under High Sierra.
It also runs under Mojave, but I couldn't find any reason beyond longer boot time to stay there.
Old iTunes may well run under macOS Cattleana.
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Lord only knows what the Board software did here.
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I've updated my home machine, but still at work. But from every report the new Music app simply is iTunes with no core functionality removed. I'll reserve my judgment for testing of course, but my fears are somewhat abated.
Yet still lazy media keeps putting out articles saying Itunes is dead, do these people actually do any research anymore?
Agree this is the only article that says iTunes is still alive and will be going away soon also for Windows users iTunes remains which stinks.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...nes-questions-old-libraries-windows-and-more/
I'm wish for 1 main feature for the iTunes update... allow iPhone users to sync with iTunes on ANY computer.
Currently, you're ONLY allowed to sync with 1 primary computer for file transfers. If you tried syncing with another computer, iTunes will WIPE the contents of the iPhone and That computer will become your new primary computer!
The only features I really use in iTunes..
1. Rip CDs especially audiobooks
2. Use the file metatag features such as..
a) 'Remember File Position' which is Only found in iTunes and Useful for audiobooks as well as non-audiobook files
b) Add album art
3rd party apps do Not offer the 'Remember File Position' feature that iTunes does which is really the main reason for still using iTunes for audiobooks! Otherwise, you'll have to remember where you left off in the audiobook file which is Near Impossible and you start right back at the beginning which is very frustrating when you return to the file.
Currently, you're ONLY allowed to sync with 1 primary computer for file transfers. If you tried syncing with another computer, iTunes will WIPE the contents of the iPhone and That computer will become your new primary computer!
The only features I really use in iTunes..
1. Rip CDs especially audiobooks
2. Use the file metatag features such as..
a) 'Remember File Position' which is Only found in iTunes and Useful for audiobooks as well as non-audiobook files
b) Add album art
3rd party apps do Not offer the 'Remember File Position' feature that iTunes does which is really the main reason for still using iTunes for audiobooks! Otherwise, you'll have to remember where you left off in the audiobook file which is Near Impossible and you start right back at the beginning which is very frustrating when you return to the file.
I REALLY wish Apple would make iTunes available for Linux computers, as it does for Windows.
Should be easier to drive iTunes on Linux, since it shares quite a similar platform with macOS's BSD.
iTunes is probably the last app holding me back from using a full Linux laptop.
Should be easier to drive iTunes on Linux, since it shares quite a similar platform with macOS's BSD.
iTunes is probably the last app holding me back from using a full Linux laptop.
So what's the verdict? Now that we have more info, can it still be done? From what I can tell, it looks like the Music app is all about backing up and sync-ing music only, not any of the other apps or device settings.
Awww man, it has been said local libraries and user playlists will be unaffected by this change!!!
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It will be done through finder! Backups and syncing.
Er, yeah... Never said to the contrary.
I'm going to continue to do it that way as I stated in my post! I'm not going to pay for Apple Music. I said that I will hold out as long as I can meaning that perhaps in the future everything will be online, but until that day comes, I'll do it the old school, free, way!
No worries! Have a nice day.
Can confirm that iTunes Music is still the same app professional musicians and DJs love. Nothing has changed except for a lobotomy of video, podcast and syncing features. The store is still there and not going anywhere.