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Originally posted by jj2003
What has my government (Finland) done to make it so difficult?

I don't know Finland specifically, but European governments in general have more restrictive economic laws and regulations than the US, which means that any economic activity, including iTMS, is more difficult in Europe.
 
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
I don't know Finland specifically, but European governments in general have more restrictive economic laws and regulations than the US, which means that any economic activity, including iTMS, is more difficult in Europe.


Apple has an internet store in various European countries that sells computers and relating stuff, selling music is hardly different from selling computers when it comes to the laws.

As far as I know, it is not the laws that are the problem with the international iTMS, but the publishing rights and artist royalties. I do not know about other European countries but I know that buying music on the Internet is not regulated by the Finnish government.

Actually quite the contrary, buying immaterial things abroad via the internet (software, music, etc.) is one of the few things that are not taxated in Finland.
 
Yes, true, but the labels have different contracts with artists to distribute them in different countries, in order to comply with the laws of those countries. While there may not be e-commerce regulation, the regulation of mere contract law, or something like that, relating to music sales in general, may be quite possibly the culprit.

Also the fact that Apple has to work through new negotiations for each country. So also, blame the fact that you aren't the 51st State 🙂
 
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Certainly, but that would relegate iTMS to a shopping-cart-only service. It would take away the 1-click goodness we've come to expect from it.
OK, how 'bout this? When you buy a tune, you get your next tune free, if ordered within, say, 24 hours. Your credit card is charged $1 in 24 hours whether you pick your free song or not. Effective price: 50 cents.
 
That would be cool and profitable, certainly. A workaround for the issue isn't impossible, clearly, it's just not nearly as elegant. However, I wouldn't put a price cut beyond Apple.
 
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Yes, true, but the labels have different contracts with artists to distribute them in different countries, in order to comply with the laws of those countries. While there may not be e-commerce regulation, the regulation of mere contract law, or something like that...

or, in other words you don't know what you are talking about and were just coming out with the usual ill informed crap about europe.
 
Originally posted by sinclairZX81
or, in other words you don't know what you are talking about and were just coming out with the usual ill informed crap about europe.

What did that contribute to the conversation? Trolling and spamming isn't welcome here.
 
Re: roundabout confirmation

Originally posted by hexcalibur
The note went on to say that iTMS was mac-only right now, but Windows users would be able to get it "this fall". Hardly a lock, but if Pat Metheny isn't a music insider, nobody is.

On the other hand, Apple have been saying all along that iTMS for Windows would be out this year, and northern winter starts on 22 December, so it would be kind of hard for them not to release it this fall.

[typo]
 
Re: iTunes for windows

Originally posted by gunnmjk
I saw what I believed to be a billboard advertising iTunes for PC somewhere between Berkeley, and San Francisco, CA. It had the gibson guitar busting out of the white, with "PC" in bold letters on the top right. That caught my eye. I read it, and it said something to the like of "Download music to your PC" then we drove by it.
I'm pretty positive it was a windows iTunes ad, but if I was mistaken, sorry

i've seen it as well. that would be none other than buymusic.com's shoddy attempt at ripping off/mocking apple's advertising campaign. pretty lame, eh?
 
Originally posted by sacrilicious
Who cares? I'm finally a switcher. 😛 😀

Well, as a *hybrid* user BUT living in Europe, I hope to see the day when I can do my first IMTS order 🙁
 
Re: Currency conversions

Originally posted by dansuz1
Just so long as they dont do 0.99EURO (little less than 1.13USD) and 0.99GBP. Which knowing the UK they might.

(FYI 1GPB=0.62USD=0.71EURO)


Just for clarity:

.99 British Pound = 1.58746 US Dollar
.99 US Dollar (USD) = 0.61740 British Pound (GBP)

.99 Euro = 1.11830 US Dollar
.99 US Dollar (USD) = 0.87642 Euro (EUR)

So for Apple to be fair, they should charge UK users GBP .62 and all other EU users Euro .88

Dan

But the US don't pay tax on their Internet stuff so the prices should be:

UK £0.75
1 EURO

But I think the other services in UK (e.g. Virgin) are planning to sell for as low as £0.65 per song (although in WM format)
 
Re: Re: Currency conversions

Originally posted by hvfsl
But the US don't pay tax on their Internet stuff so the prices should be:

UK £0.75
1 EURO

But I think the other services in UK (e.g. Virgin) are planning to sell for as low as £0.65 per song (although in WM format)

It will be more than 1 EUR. 1,5 EUR and 1 GBP probably! 😡
 
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