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iTunes for Windows is Coming
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BaghdadBob
macrumors 6502a
Re: Re: Re: what about Mac 9.2
I saw that number too, and from what I understand that was from last year. We've had Jaguar since then, and I think there are a lot more migrations since (including new macs), but I could be wrong.
PS: Upgrading is smooth and worth it. I have a 400 Mhz G3, and I have never looked back.
I saw that number too, and from what I understand that was from last year. We've had Jaguar since then, and I think there are a lot more migrations since (including new macs), but I could be wrong.
PS: Upgrading is smooth and worth it. I have a 400 Mhz G3, and I have never looked back.
random rants (on topic)(mostly)
as for the os 9 card, i too feel your pain. i'm running my beige g3 at 266 w/416 megs of ram and a decent hard drive. my first thought was, man this would be awesome on my mac. but i know it will never happen. i mean never. it's not that i don't think it's a good idea for 'us' to get itunes 4, but apple isn't going out of it's way to support the old os. that's just business, sad as it is.
with that said, i think way more than 10 percent have switched. i dont' know many (other than myself) who haven't at this point. the only ones who haven't are still on the os 9 bandwagon for one reason - they don't think their hardware will support it. but most if not all os 9er's i know want to or are concidering a switch. it's just that some of them (myself included) don't have the money right now.
on to itunes...
porting to windows is great. and i don't think any more iapps will make it. the only reason they're porting itunes in teh first place is to provide a way for pc users to use the music service. dont' see what's so hard to understand there (or even bad about it). that said, i don't have a single pc using friend who's 100% happy with their mp3 player. little things, like eq's that butcher sound, or non-intuitive playlists. it takes a toll when you're talking several thousand songs. i think a good *apple* mp3 player that becomes the mack (and free for that matter) of the pc world is great. good exposure. i have a friend who was going to convert his old laptop and integrate it into his car dash just to use it as an mp3 player, and if money and time came together, possible a gps. when the new ipods showed up, i pointed him to them, and now he'll be buying one w/in the next few months.
ipods are great. and from what i hear, itunes is the only way to really appreciate an ipod. and of course, there's no way to use aplpe's music d/l w/out it.
so yeah, i think letting pc's have *one* iapp is good. my friends who use qt to watch trailers love it...
matt
p.s. sorry if this was a little random and jumpy from point to point... i'm in a hurry...
as for the os 9 card, i too feel your pain. i'm running my beige g3 at 266 w/416 megs of ram and a decent hard drive. my first thought was, man this would be awesome on my mac. but i know it will never happen. i mean never. it's not that i don't think it's a good idea for 'us' to get itunes 4, but apple isn't going out of it's way to support the old os. that's just business, sad as it is.
with that said, i think way more than 10 percent have switched. i dont' know many (other than myself) who haven't at this point. the only ones who haven't are still on the os 9 bandwagon for one reason - they don't think their hardware will support it. but most if not all os 9er's i know want to or are concidering a switch. it's just that some of them (myself included) don't have the money right now.
on to itunes...
porting to windows is great. and i don't think any more iapps will make it. the only reason they're porting itunes in teh first place is to provide a way for pc users to use the music service. dont' see what's so hard to understand there (or even bad about it). that said, i don't have a single pc using friend who's 100% happy with their mp3 player. little things, like eq's that butcher sound, or non-intuitive playlists. it takes a toll when you're talking several thousand songs. i think a good *apple* mp3 player that becomes the mack (and free for that matter) of the pc world is great. good exposure. i have a friend who was going to convert his old laptop and integrate it into his car dash just to use it as an mp3 player, and if money and time came together, possible a gps. when the new ipods showed up, i pointed him to them, and now he'll be buying one w/in the next few months.
ipods are great. and from what i hear, itunes is the only way to really appreciate an ipod. and of course, there's no way to use aplpe's music d/l w/out it.
so yeah, i think letting pc's have *one* iapp is good. my friends who use qt to watch trailers love it...
matt
p.s. sorry if this was a little random and jumpy from point to point... i'm in a hurry...
NavyIntel007
macrumors 65816
Re: Re: Re: The real hook...
It's the only MP3 player with AAC support and access to AppleMusic.com. They'd be stupid not to charge for it. Charge like $30 with 5-10 free downloads.
It's the only MP3 player with AAC support and access to AppleMusic.com. They'd be stupid not to charge for it. Charge like $30 with 5-10 free downloads.
iJon
macrumors 604
Re: Re: Re: Re: The real hook...
iJon
it may just be me but i do not see apple selling this. it would be better if they made it free, people would download it and be set. i think their main goal needs to be is kick winamps ass outta here. make itunes free, and make money from downloadign music.
iJon
NavyIntel007
macrumors 65816
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The real hook...
If Apple is only making $.35/download, each user would have to buy 100 songs before they would make any money. People who use windows, who like the new format and want to use it will pay.
I do believe, however, that it should be free for the new iPod buyers. Otherwise they're contributing more to the labels and not to Apple.
If Apple is only making $.35/download, each user would have to buy 100 songs before they would make any money. People who use windows, who like the new format and want to use it will pay.
I do believe, however, that it should be free for the new iPod buyers. Otherwise they're contributing more to the labels and not to Apple.
BaghdadBob
macrumors 6502a
To me, you want full market saturation in as short a time period as possible, so making people pay for the client is only going to slow that down.
Imagine if, when CDs came out, you didn't have to buy a CD player to listen to them. Don't you think you would have gone out and bought a CD a lot faster?
Millions and millions of PC users downloading songs as soon as the software is made available will very quickly compensate for the costs of developing the client software.
Try not to think of this as a neato free application for Windows users, remember that it is client software, and we want as many clients as possible.
Imagine if, when CDs came out, you didn't have to buy a CD player to listen to them. Don't you think you would have gone out and bought a CD a lot faster?
Millions and millions of PC users downloading songs as soon as the software is made available will very quickly compensate for the costs of developing the client software.
Try not to think of this as a neato free application for Windows users, remember that it is client software, and we want as many clients as possible.
https://jobs.apple.com/
https://jobs.apple.com/... hmm... you'd think this should be Steve's web page 😀
https://jobs.apple.com/... hmm... you'd think this should be Steve's web page 😀
iTunes for Windows
I believe bringing iTunes to Windows is a great idea.
With Microsoft pushing their own proprietary format/DRM model, Apple needs to do everything possible to ensure AAC becomes the entertainment industries choice for distribution of online content.
I think iTunes for Windows should be free to get it out to the largest number of users as fast as possible. The more users Apple can get behind AAC, the better. Let's face it. There's a large number of Wintel users that will never switch to the Mac. That doesn't mean Apple should ignore them as a source of revenue. Money is money, regardless of where it comes from.
In the end, I believe the entertainment industry will conclude that AAC is the best format for distributing online content. And if AAC wins..... everyone wins! Apple will have an additional source of revenue. The entertainment industry has a means of distributing their media online - without committing themselves to Microsoft's proprietary model. And users get pretty good fair use rights.
I believe bringing iTunes to Windows is a great idea.
With Microsoft pushing their own proprietary format/DRM model, Apple needs to do everything possible to ensure AAC becomes the entertainment industries choice for distribution of online content.
I think iTunes for Windows should be free to get it out to the largest number of users as fast as possible. The more users Apple can get behind AAC, the better. Let's face it. There's a large number of Wintel users that will never switch to the Mac. That doesn't mean Apple should ignore them as a source of revenue. Money is money, regardless of where it comes from.
In the end, I believe the entertainment industry will conclude that AAC is the best format for distributing online content. And if AAC wins..... everyone wins! Apple will have an additional source of revenue. The entertainment industry has a means of distributing their media online - without committing themselves to Microsoft's proprietary model. And users get pretty good fair use rights.
re:re: international
Could the daily fluctuations in exchange rates have anything to do with Apple's descision not to offer the music service abroad? Any comments?
Could the daily fluctuations in exchange rates have anything to do with Apple's descision not to offer the music service abroad? Any comments?
caveman_uk
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They sell their computers in overseas markets...admittedly for more that they charge in the US. So exchange rates don't bother them that much. Why can't they just bill in dollars anyway? I have a Visa and have bought stuff from the US before and the exchange conversion is performed by Visa not the vendor.
Re: Re: Re: Re: The real hook...
That is plainly false. There are in fact many more AAC encoders/decoders for Windows than for Mac OS. From what I have read so far, iTunes is the only audio player with support to Apple's Musica Store's AAC (i.e. DRM-AAC).
That is plainly false. There are in fact many more AAC encoders/decoders for Windows than for Mac OS. From what I have read so far, iTunes is the only audio player with support to Apple's Musica Store's AAC (i.e. DRM-AAC).