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iTunes for Windows is Coming
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Could this be a way for Apple to make a smooth transition or to see if people like the software enough to where they in the future go like: " well, if you like iTunes, the iPod, iDisk, and whatever they decide to make for Winblows, then here is OS X for the x86 or the Opteron(Itanium). (remember marklar)
Maybe they are testing the waters or making Apple more mainstream and making it so attractive that people may just make the switch, thus getting the developers onboard to make software for x86OS x.
I think I may be looking to far into this!
Go 970, Go PPC.😕
Maybe they are testing the waters or making Apple more mainstream and making it so attractive that people may just make the switch, thus getting the developers onboard to make software for x86OS x.
I think I may be looking to far into this!
Go 970, Go PPC.😕
If you want to know the funny thing about my posting is my first job out of college was at Arthur Andersen and so far it was the best job I've had (worst freaking pay ever). The people were very intelligent, the job was interesting and the clients were very nice (usually).
I felt bad for them because I worked in Business Consulting (Computer Related), CRM (Computer Risk Management) and did Audits with the accountants. I have a degree in Finance and MIS and I speak 3 languages (English, Spanish, French). I'm considering getting a Masters in Economics (or just another undergrad in Econ) for fun. That will have to wait another couple of years though.
The funny thing is I love programming, I just hate working on programs. I'm a tinkerer, I like learning how to do things, the mundane task of building boring applications is only worthwhile because it allows me to blow insane amounts of cash on the toys my wife wants (I'm guilty as well). Plus I'll be retired by the time I'm 35. Well not retired but no longer in need of cash to maintain a very comfortable standard of living. I guess when I thought the stock market was overpriced in 1997 I was right (as far as I know only Warren E Buffett and myself thought this, j/k).
Oh well back to work (100-120hrs/week). My only breaks are college football in the fall and world cup soccer (qualifying too) which is the reason I'll be speaking 4 languages before too long (Germany 2006).
Sorry for rant, this is my form of bar (a la Cheers).
Mudbug
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Re: iTunes for Windows is Coming
Apparently you don't have to possess proper gramatical skills or other proper uses of the english language. That being the case, can I have a job in the marketing department now?
I kan spel reel gud.
Job listing re-written: Must be possessin' mad skillz in killer app speech, great taggin', the shizzle dizzle for the enginizzle, and hear the good shout-outs from the peeps.
I'm in the book. Online Apple resume already filled out. 🙂
And one more thing - who would want to work in the WINDOWS department at Apple? Talk about the guy (or girl - don't want to annoy the ladies...) who will be the recipient of every practical joke the Infinite Loop campus can throw at them. Poor bastage.
Apparently you don't have to possess proper gramatical skills or other proper uses of the english language. That being the case, can I have a job in the marketing department now?
I kan spel reel gud.
Job listing re-written: Must be possessin' mad skillz in killer app speech, great taggin', the shizzle dizzle for the enginizzle, and hear the good shout-outs from the peeps.
I'm in the book. Online Apple resume already filled out. 🙂
And one more thing - who would want to work in the WINDOWS department at Apple? Talk about the guy (or girl - don't want to annoy the ladies...) who will be the recipient of every practical joke the Infinite Loop campus can throw at them. Poor bastage.
Re: Re: iTunes for Windows is Coming
Basically you'd be the butt of every joke... The office pariah. Steve's litte bit@h.
Basically you'd be the butt of every joke... The office pariah. Steve's litte bit@h.
As a windows, solaris, linux and mac os 9/X user, my belief is this would kill Macs.
If I want an OS for work, games, etc that is cheap and works well enough I choose windows (as most people do). If I want a total experience, ease of use, amazing hardware, style I choose OS X. If I want a stable server platform for web applications I choose Linux. If I want a scaleable, stable, supported OS for a database server I choose solaris (sparc).
Apple can take over all these with the exception of cheap. This is why putting apple s/w on PC hardware (it almost is now) won't work. No style, No Apple.
Maybe apple should pull a Nintendo and start dumping their hardware to get market share. Once everything is available for OS X or OS XI, ... then start to focus on greater margins.
I think apple can become the DB Server (with PPC 970 and Oracle), the Web Server (Apache w/JSP mod), and the stylish desktop. The desktop is more difficult because consumers are VERY price sensitive. Not to mention very easily swayed by misinformation from the "Ad Wizards" in the Wintel marketing departments.
If I want an OS for work, games, etc that is cheap and works well enough I choose windows (as most people do). If I want a total experience, ease of use, amazing hardware, style I choose OS X. If I want a stable server platform for web applications I choose Linux. If I want a scaleable, stable, supported OS for a database server I choose solaris (sparc).
Apple can take over all these with the exception of cheap. This is why putting apple s/w on PC hardware (it almost is now) won't work. No style, No Apple.
Maybe apple should pull a Nintendo and start dumping their hardware to get market share. Once everything is available for OS X or OS XI, ... then start to focus on greater margins.
I think apple can become the DB Server (with PPC 970 and Oracle), the Web Server (Apache w/JSP mod), and the stylish desktop. The desktop is more difficult because consumers are VERY price sensitive. Not to mention very easily swayed by misinformation from the "Ad Wizards" in the Wintel marketing departments.
Maxx Power
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What will the skin be like ?
Anyone thought of what the skin maybe like for iTunes for windows ? Just a thought.
Anyone thought of what the skin maybe like for iTunes for windows ? Just a thought.
Discredits Marklar?
IF the marklar rumor is correct...wouldnt they already have a version of iTunes for x86?
And even if they only made the OS on x86, wouldnt they get the same team to do iTunes?
IF the marklar rumor is correct...wouldnt they already have a version of iTunes for x86?
And even if they only made the OS on x86, wouldnt they get the same team to do iTunes?
Mudbug
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Re: Discredits Marklar?
Good question, but probably not. iTunes isn't an essential part of the OS, so getting it to run on x86 probably hasn't been first priority, until uncle Steve said "make it so."
And as for part 2 of your question, the folks that write the code for OSX on x86 are STILL probably a little busy working on that one. If that is the ultimate plan (not saying it is, mind you...) then taking away your most important programmers from thier chiseled out task at hand seems like a bad idea.
I think what they should do is javacise the program, or make it run as a "dos" level program that would allow it to run without the windows interface running, and allow the port to multiple os's without serious recoding.
my .02¢
Good question, but probably not. iTunes isn't an essential part of the OS, so getting it to run on x86 probably hasn't been first priority, until uncle Steve said "make it so."
And as for part 2 of your question, the folks that write the code for OSX on x86 are STILL probably a little busy working on that one. If that is the ultimate plan (not saying it is, mind you...) then taking away your most important programmers from thier chiseled out task at hand seems like a bad idea.
I think what they should do is javacise the program, or make it run as a "dos" level program that would allow it to run without the windows interface running, and allow the port to multiple os's without serious recoding.
my .02¢
eric_n_dfw
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Re: Help Wanted?!!
[edit]PS: When I say that "senior" just means experienced, I really should say that we are expected (because of that experience) to be more of a systems architect/designer type engineer than the less experienced guys/gals. (Just didn't want to disrespect any fellow "Senior" engineers out there! 😉 )
PPS: I know a lot of "non-senior" engineers that could design and/or code circles around some "senior" ones. Sometimes seniority get's confused with "senior". 🙄
[second edit was to censor my company and division names - nobody here would care and my company (and it's parent) would probably not appretiate me talking about how many engineers we have 😀 ]
I doubt it's as glamorous a position as you make it out to be. "Senior Software Engineer" is a fairly broad category that usually translates to, "Programmer with experience". My title at my present and prior jobs is/was "Senior Software Engineer", before that it was the equivilent of "Software Engineer" (technically, it was "Cosultant II" - but that meant nothing to anyone but payroll). Both titles mean code-geek, one pays a lot better than the other. I am one of about 100 "Software Engineers" at my division of [censored] (insert large, DFW based travel it shop here) [/censored] and of those 100, I'd guess there's about 20 of us that are "Senior". I'd venture to guess that Apple has a lot more than 20 Sr. Eng'rs. (It's not like this position would be the only guy working on the app' - at least I doubt it.)
[edit]PS: When I say that "senior" just means experienced, I really should say that we are expected (because of that experience) to be more of a systems architect/designer type engineer than the less experienced guys/gals. (Just didn't want to disrespect any fellow "Senior" engineers out there! 😉 )
PPS: I know a lot of "non-senior" engineers that could design and/or code circles around some "senior" ones. Sometimes seniority get's confused with "senior". 🙄
[second edit was to censor my company and division names - nobody here would care and my company (and it's parent) would probably not appretiate me talking about how many engineers we have 😀 ]
jethroted
macrumors 6502a
Re: Discredits Marklar?
The bigest problem with that theory is that Marklar is not windows. It's Mac OS. So even though it runs on x86, that means nothing to a windows user. That's like saying "Well, I have this copy of photoshop for linux, shouldn't it run on windows?" No. It's a totally different os.
The bigest problem with that theory is that Marklar is not windows. It's Mac OS. So even though it runs on x86, that means nothing to a windows user. That's like saying "Well, I have this copy of photoshop for linux, shouldn't it run on windows?" No. It's a totally different os.
iTunes for PC
It was an obvious thing to happen.. All I can say is I told you so (to all those who denied all the possibily of this in my post a week or so ago).
Apple can now branch their music service. This will be great for bringing the whole computer community on board.
It was an obvious thing to happen.. All I can say is I told you so (to all those who denied all the possibily of this in my post a week or so ago).
Apple can now branch their music service. This will be great for bringing the whole computer community on board.
Mudbug
Administrator emeritus
PC version - the important stuff
The important thing for them to work on is really getting it to work flawlessly on multiple versions of windows. XP screws with it's code differently than 9x, or 2000, or NT, or fill in the blank. In order for it to really work with the windows-using folks, it's got to be perfect. Not just pretty-much there. All of the artists. All of the tracks. All of the options. All of the time. And god/allah/yahweh help them if it crashes. Ever.
Wanna see what real windows users (that would give a flip) think of mac folks and thier software? Go join a chat with some gamers. They'll let you know just what they think. The trick will be winning them over. They are, by the way, probably the largest portion of the P2P sharing market as it existed before yesterday.
The important thing for them to work on is really getting it to work flawlessly on multiple versions of windows. XP screws with it's code differently than 9x, or 2000, or NT, or fill in the blank. In order for it to really work with the windows-using folks, it's got to be perfect. Not just pretty-much there. All of the artists. All of the tracks. All of the options. All of the time. And god/allah/yahweh help them if it crashes. Ever.
Wanna see what real windows users (that would give a flip) think of mac folks and thier software? Go join a chat with some gamers. They'll let you know just what they think. The trick will be winning them over. They are, by the way, probably the largest portion of the P2P sharing market as it existed before yesterday.
Mudbug
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pimentoLoaf
macrumors 68010
BaghdadBob
macrumors 6502a
Re: I could get this job.
4) Save it for the political forums. And remember which way Bill Gates and Ted Turner vote.
PS: Some of us don't like making blanket statements about huge segments of the population, i.e. "those black people sure do like to sleep around."
4) Save it for the political forums. And remember which way Bill Gates and Ted Turner vote.
PS: Some of us don't like making blanket statements about huge segments of the population, i.e. "those black people sure do like to sleep around."
Better be soon
The funny thing is, Republicans would say the same thing about Democrats. Just demonstrates how little people understand their opposition, no matter how much they may "try" to.
On-topic:
Apple better get off their butts and get this out by the end of the summer, not the end of the year, or their system will be copied (although probably not well). Like we saw with the iPod, TiBook, etc., it doesn't take long for the PC world to come up with cheap knock-offs of Apple designs, and those were hardware. Rhapsody need only eliminate their subscription service and team up with MS to implement a DRM solution similar to Apple's, and the opportunity is lost.
The funny thing is, Republicans would say the same thing about Democrats. Just demonstrates how little people understand their opposition, no matter how much they may "try" to.
On-topic:
Apple better get off their butts and get this out by the end of the summer, not the end of the year, or their system will be copied (although probably not well). Like we saw with the iPod, TiBook, etc., it doesn't take long for the PC world to come up with cheap knock-offs of Apple designs, and those were hardware. Rhapsody need only eliminate their subscription service and team up with MS to implement a DRM solution similar to Apple's, and the opportunity is lost.