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'iTunes + iPod Video' Sighting
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on the record
i wanted to post my prediction on the record, sorry if this has already been hypothesized:
mac minis have been upgraded to 1.5 ghz with no acknowledgement from Apple
why? why would apple not promote a better product to increase sales?
maybe apple was forced to use the faster chips because they ran out of supplies of the slower ones after EOL'ing the current mac mini, maybe a new mac mini that was intended to replace it was not ready in time,
maybe that mac mini was the world's first mac with an intel processor,
maybe that is the one last thing that apple will unveil this wednesay!
but what about the curtain in the invite? isn't it symbolic like the pocket was on the last invite? as an even further stretch maybe the mac mini intel will be the first computer to support itunes movies downloads, as it has been mentioned that the intel chip is coveted for its built in copyright protections, a feature that would surely woo the movie industry to cooperate in an itunes style movie store
of course any such computer could replace the mac mini instead, and initially be marketed as a movie machine..who knows! just some ideas!
i wanted to post my prediction on the record, sorry if this has already been hypothesized:
mac minis have been upgraded to 1.5 ghz with no acknowledgement from Apple
why? why would apple not promote a better product to increase sales?
maybe apple was forced to use the faster chips because they ran out of supplies of the slower ones after EOL'ing the current mac mini, maybe a new mac mini that was intended to replace it was not ready in time,
maybe that mac mini was the world's first mac with an intel processor,
maybe that is the one last thing that apple will unveil this wednesay!
but what about the curtain in the invite? isn't it symbolic like the pocket was on the last invite? as an even further stretch maybe the mac mini intel will be the first computer to support itunes movies downloads, as it has been mentioned that the intel chip is coveted for its built in copyright protections, a feature that would surely woo the movie industry to cooperate in an itunes style movie store
of course any such computer could replace the mac mini instead, and initially be marketed as a movie machine..who knows! just some ideas!
swingerofbirch said:
the part about the mac mini possibly using the intel procs sparks some interest with me.
it would make sense for them to use intel chips in the mac mini first because the average buyer af a mac mini isnt gonna be running lots of high end 3rd party software that needs to be rewritten for most performance. all they want is itunes, iphoto, safari and somewhere to save stuff...
hmmmm
im probably wrong though
Pay attention to the invite
The invite has curtains which appear to be the type that cover a movie screen or stage.
This almost postively has to do with video, I doubt it will be iPod related as any new iPods would cannabilize the Nano sales which will be huge for holiday season.
The "one more thing" on the invite really eludes that this will be a very big launch. iTunes Movie Store with ability to burn movies would be huge and drive a lot of Mac sales for the holidays.
Less likely that this will be a airport with video broadcasting as movies would take up a lot of space on the HD.
Just my $.02
The invite has curtains which appear to be the type that cover a movie screen or stage.
This almost postively has to do with video, I doubt it will be iPod related as any new iPods would cannabilize the Nano sales which will be huge for holiday season.
The "one more thing" on the invite really eludes that this will be a very big launch. iTunes Movie Store with ability to burn movies would be huge and drive a lot of Mac sales for the holidays.
Less likely that this will be a airport with video broadcasting as movies would take up a lot of space on the HD.
Just my $.02
hyperpasta
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don't get too excited...
I'm really hoping for something big, but I'm prepared for new Pro machines and the 5G iPod. Don't get your hopes up too much.
I'm really hoping for something big, but I'm prepared for new Pro machines and the 5G iPod. Don't get your hopes up too much.
zpapasmurf said:
I would think that is the craziest idea of heard. If there were already complainers for one reason or the other about the unannounced updates, imagine how many people would complain (even if they didn't even get one) that they or others were fooled into getting a PPC and got an Intel. Besides Intel Macs until WWDC are what is expected if everything goes well. Oh and if it were possible, Apple would have to have to have their (Pro) apps x86-ready.
Does anybody have a timeline of previous product announcements in "Special Events" compared to those in MWSF and WWDC?
AFAIK, the main products announced by Apple at MacWorld SF and WWDC are Macs. The special events are for things not so Mac-related are they? (iPod, iTMS, etc.)
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
AFAIK, the main products announced by Apple at MacWorld SF and WWDC are Macs. The special events are for things not so Mac-related are they? (iPod, iTMS, etc.)
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
jayscheuerle said:
We know that. I bought my iPod the 1st day it arrived at MicroCenter in November '01.
The point we're making is that you're recent post "iTunes + iPod video = stupid" is about as accurate today as all the people who said "iTunes + iPod = stupid" in 2001.
They were wrong then. You're wrong now.
Get it? Got it? Good.
fatfish
macrumors 6502
ipod Mega
My guess is with an ipod Mega.
Not sure how far it will go, but I'm thinking it will be a soft version of a PDA without a physical keypad. Much the same interface and size as the current ipod, but will still hold thousands of tunes, pictures and likely short video clips with the same ease of use. Bluetooth for syncing calendars and contacts etc., USB/FW for other stuff.
imovie store is a way off and would be part of itms anyway, but short music video's, comic sketches and the like will start to become available from 10/12.
My guess is with an ipod Mega.
Not sure how far it will go, but I'm thinking it will be a soft version of a PDA without a physical keypad. Much the same interface and size as the current ipod, but will still hold thousands of tunes, pictures and likely short video clips with the same ease of use. Bluetooth for syncing calendars and contacts etc., USB/FW for other stuff.
imovie store is a way off and would be part of itms anyway, but short music video's, comic sketches and the like will start to become available from 10/12.
DaftUnion
macrumors 6502a
mainemike said:
Yes, I'm excited too, but I thought that'd be a good idea if it was actually possible instead of driving yourself nuts trying to figure out what this release or releases could be...some new type of iPod most def., and possibly the pro lineup? I guess we will all know soon enough what rumor sites were right on, and who were off (namely appleinsider and think secret)
Of course, nobody KNOWS what will be announced next week, but we all have our favorite wish lists.
My own hopes ... informed by some developments I've seen outside Apple ... point to a PDA device similar to a Windows Mobile PDA, but running some flavor of OS-X, with video playback capabilities (Quicktime), iTunes, integrated phone, 80GB 1.8" hard drive and the ability to operate as a "real" mac with the addition of a fold-up keyboard / trackpad.
Call it the Mac Nano.
The market for this? Mobile professionals, students other PDA users ... ME, certainly. The video capability wouldn't necessarily be for feature films ... I think SJ is correct that people don't want to watch ET on a 2" iPod screen, although they might do so on a 5" PDA during a long flight. Video playback may be useful for video podcasts, video news releases ... even video conferencing. Windows Media is loaded on many Windows PDA's ... why not Quicktime on these?
The phone would be a key application. I think that Steve's disdain for the Rokr was evident at the launch, and the market seems to be agreeing. The world doesn't need an iPod from Motorola. It DOES need a cellphone with better designed user software, something Motorola lags at. Meanwhile, the other major players (Nokia, Samsung, etc) do a better job than Moto but don't come close to Apple's understanding of user interface design. That's a key unmet need in the marketplace, and Apple has the skills to address it, I believe.
Meanwhile, which network? Some (eg. BusinessWeek) have suggested that Apple become a network reseller, much like Virgin Mobile. That's one possibility. Another likely outcome: A deal with T-mobile.
Why T-mobile? It's the third largest cellular operator worldwide, giving Apple a global market for this device. Its US network is about to be upgraded to 2.5G (EDGE) with most expecting the formal announcement within the month ... the buildout is almost complete. It's going to be looking for new EDGE-compliant devices to sell to its customers ... and it's been paring down its PDA offerings in the last few weeks. The Treo 600 (now moving to the Microsoft camp) is no longer offered on T-Mobile's consumer site, although you can get it on their business site. They never went with the more advanced Treo 650. The Siemen's Windows PDA they were selling for some time is also gone. And just this week they reduced the price of their mainstay PDA, the Blackberry 7100T, by 50%. Something new is about to show up.
I'd expect this device to support both EDGE and Wi-Fi, something T-Mobile is more likely to welcome than the other cellular operators given that T-Mobile also owns the largest commercial Wi-Fi network. Bluetooth and possibly irda seem likely as well.
But what about Cingular you say? My guess is that that was more Motorola's deal than Apple's, and I doubt very much that Apple has its hands tied. After all, Cingular also sells Sony Ericsson S710. And Cingular's notoriously poor customer service, US-only network and generally clumsy management probably give the Apple folks an unsettled feeling. T-Mobile's not perfect, but the general consensus seems to be that they're a better-run company.
We'll know soon ...
My own hopes ... informed by some developments I've seen outside Apple ... point to a PDA device similar to a Windows Mobile PDA, but running some flavor of OS-X, with video playback capabilities (Quicktime), iTunes, integrated phone, 80GB 1.8" hard drive and the ability to operate as a "real" mac with the addition of a fold-up keyboard / trackpad.
Call it the Mac Nano.
The market for this? Mobile professionals, students other PDA users ... ME, certainly. The video capability wouldn't necessarily be for feature films ... I think SJ is correct that people don't want to watch ET on a 2" iPod screen, although they might do so on a 5" PDA during a long flight. Video playback may be useful for video podcasts, video news releases ... even video conferencing. Windows Media is loaded on many Windows PDA's ... why not Quicktime on these?
The phone would be a key application. I think that Steve's disdain for the Rokr was evident at the launch, and the market seems to be agreeing. The world doesn't need an iPod from Motorola. It DOES need a cellphone with better designed user software, something Motorola lags at. Meanwhile, the other major players (Nokia, Samsung, etc) do a better job than Moto but don't come close to Apple's understanding of user interface design. That's a key unmet need in the marketplace, and Apple has the skills to address it, I believe.
Meanwhile, which network? Some (eg. BusinessWeek) have suggested that Apple become a network reseller, much like Virgin Mobile. That's one possibility. Another likely outcome: A deal with T-mobile.
Why T-mobile? It's the third largest cellular operator worldwide, giving Apple a global market for this device. Its US network is about to be upgraded to 2.5G (EDGE) with most expecting the formal announcement within the month ... the buildout is almost complete. It's going to be looking for new EDGE-compliant devices to sell to its customers ... and it's been paring down its PDA offerings in the last few weeks. The Treo 600 (now moving to the Microsoft camp) is no longer offered on T-Mobile's consumer site, although you can get it on their business site. They never went with the more advanced Treo 650. The Siemen's Windows PDA they were selling for some time is also gone. And just this week they reduced the price of their mainstay PDA, the Blackberry 7100T, by 50%. Something new is about to show up.
I'd expect this device to support both EDGE and Wi-Fi, something T-Mobile is more likely to welcome than the other cellular operators given that T-Mobile also owns the largest commercial Wi-Fi network. Bluetooth and possibly irda seem likely as well.
But what about Cingular you say? My guess is that that was more Motorola's deal than Apple's, and I doubt very much that Apple has its hands tied. After all, Cingular also sells Sony Ericsson S710. And Cingular's notoriously poor customer service, US-only network and generally clumsy management probably give the Apple folks an unsettled feeling. T-Mobile's not perfect, but the general consensus seems to be that they're a better-run company.
We'll know soon ...
Lots of people have this crazy idea that MacTels are coming sooner rather than later but didn't Steve say they were still working on some G5 projects? How upset will you be if it's just upgrades to the G5 line?
Another area to look to is/are the patent applications Apple has taken out. Is there a list somewhere we can see what crazy ideas they have patented?
Don't overlook the idea of a major software introduction. What ever happened to that math application rumor?
Maybe something really out of the box like Apple will now distribute Pixar films or the Beetles catalog will be exclusively sold via iTunes (now that would be an anouncement).
Another area to look to is/are the patent applications Apple has taken out. Is there a list somewhere we can see what crazy ideas they have patented?
Don't overlook the idea of a major software introduction. What ever happened to that math application rumor?
Maybe something really out of the box like Apple will now distribute Pixar films or the Beetles catalog will be exclusively sold via iTunes (now that would be an anouncement).
we have the macmini, the ipod nano. what about a minibook?
"One more thing" always introduced a totally new product, something that redefines a whole category: a new design (imac G5), a new range (mac mini), a new generation of processors, a totally new product (ipod).
i expect something quite big.
although nodbody has ever hinted at that recently, I expect some product in the "mini" range. the latest trend at apple is "think small". we have a macmini in the desktop range, we have a nano in the ipod range. we still don't have anything "mini" in the laptop range.
i would love some kind of "minibook". something not bigger than 10", widescreen, with integrated cam, wifi, bluetooth... a real full feature minilaptop. such a device would make much more sense than a video ipod to watch movies. it could be the video device everybody's talking about AND a new mini laptop all together, plus some truly amazing feature that only apple can come up with and we can't even imagine.
"One more thing" always introduced a totally new product, something that redefines a whole category: a new design (imac G5), a new range (mac mini), a new generation of processors, a totally new product (ipod).
i expect something quite big.
although nodbody has ever hinted at that recently, I expect some product in the "mini" range. the latest trend at apple is "think small". we have a macmini in the desktop range, we have a nano in the ipod range. we still don't have anything "mini" in the laptop range.
i would love some kind of "minibook". something not bigger than 10", widescreen, with integrated cam, wifi, bluetooth... a real full feature minilaptop. such a device would make much more sense than a video ipod to watch movies. it could be the video device everybody's talking about AND a new mini laptop all together, plus some truly amazing feature that only apple can come up with and we can't even imagine.
How about we just end all the speculation by gathering an angry mob with flame tourches and pitchforks then march to Job's house and demand answers.
Has anyone noticed that the iTMS has not posted music videos for about 2 months?! They usually posted new ones each week, and now it has been 2 months. Is this hinting that they will be charging to download them now?
nichtsicher said:
Nah, he'd just hand out Nano's at the front door and we'd all wander off giggling and chattering about what a great guy he is.
BTW, I've come up with a name for the version of OS-X to run on the new Apple PDA Phone / Mac Nano: OS-X Kitty.