iTunes Match Goes Live in the Netherlands

[Twizz91]

Looks like it uses waveform analysis only.

And wait until it's done uploading before jumping to conclusions, in many cases it says it's uploading a huge number of songs but many of those are matched songs where it's only uploading metadata and album artwork.

Hmm, when it has finished step 2 it clearly states it has only matched 6k songs...
Butt i'll keep it running for the night, tomorrow I'll see it if has finished.

 

[gnasher729]

Alright, I have an iCloud-status called 'Ongerechtigd' , don't know the exact translation for (perhaps: inlegitimate?) , but what does this mean? For instance, it affects a song by DJ Jean, which I bought legally as a single (as in: compact disc) but also some other songs. They will not sync with iCloud.
Is this new? If not, what is it?

There is "inelegible", which includes:

Songs of less than four seconds (I think).

Songs at less than 100 KBit/second (try converting to 128 Kbit first).

Certain MP3 songs with VBR are incorrectly recognized as lower bit rate CBR. That problem was always there, but usually didn't matter (try converting them to 128 KBit).

Things like album art, books etc. which might be in iTunes.

Audiobooks.

AAC files created with certain non-iTunes encoders (try converting them).

I'm not asking for "stop going forward", I'm just saying that fixing widespread confirmed bugs should be a higher priority than bringing the buggy software to more people.

But this isn't done by the same people. The lawyers who set up and signed the necessary contracts in the Netherlands wouldn't be able to fix any bugs in the software.

 

[milo]

But this isn't done by the same people. The lawyers who set up and signed the necessary contracts in the Netherlands wouldn't be able to fix any bugs in the software.

Of course it's not the same people. The lawyers hammer out the legal details, but that doesn't mean they need to ship it the second the ink is dry. The smart thing would be to ask the guys fixing the bugs what state the software is in and then wait for an update with bug fixes before releasing to new markets.

Sure looks like they're trying to release as fast as possible to appease the bean counters, but I'd argue that trying to bring more money in the door as soon as possible is negated by shipping prematurely and having users angry and demanding refunds.

 

[gnasher729]

Of course it's not the same people. The lawyers hammer out the legal details, but that doesn't mean they need to ship it the second the ink is dry. The smart thing would be to ask the guys fixing the bugs what state the software is in and then wait for an update with bug fixes before releasing to new markets.

Sure looks like they're trying to release as fast as possible to appease the bean counters, but I'd argue that trying to bring more money in the door as soon as possible is negated by shipping prematurely and having users angry and demanding refunds.

That doesn't make sense at all. Millions of people are using it and happy with it, bugs or not. I'm one of them. Why should people in the Netherlands wait longer than necessary?

 

[milo]

That doesn't make sense at all. Millions of people are using it and happy with it, bugs or not. I'm one of them. Why should people in the Netherlands wait longer than necessary?

Because many other people ARE having problems, and waiting a bit longer to ship something with fewer bugs means happier customers, fewer refunds and people giving up on the product, and less demands on their support team. Especially with a product like this where once a user's library is matched/uploaded, it's much more of a pain to fix errors than to get it right in the first place.

If you're happy, that's nice but that doesn't change the fact that there are major bugs that are 100% reproducible for all users (you're just lucky to not have used those particular features). I'm sure with any defective product you can find people who have avoided the problems and are happy with it.

If you can't make sense out of "ship software with fewer major bugs" I don't know what to tell you.

If nothing else, they should have spread out the releases instead of making it available to 19 countries at once, their servers got hammered and access was extremely slow (if available at all) for several days.