iTunes Movie Store Rumblings

[Bad Beaver]

$10? If it's high-bitrate HD 720p upwards we can talk. Actually for movies I would like to see a download rental system where you can use a downloaded movie within 48 hours of first usage, two bucks per download or so. I would even be fine "just" DVD quality. In fact that renting makes much more sense than buying unless you are entitled to burn backups.

And of course I want to choose which language & subtitles & sound I get for each individual download. Otherwise I'll just continue to "download" off Amazon.

 

[jaxstate]

They would need a subscription service. I use to buy DVDs, and they would just sit there.

 

[Yvan256]

Dude, there's no way a single movie will weigh in at a terabyte. You know how big that is right? Do that math. Sure, add up hundreds or thousands of movies and you get terabytes but your comment to the quote doesn't make sense.

I think he meant "terabytes" to comment on the "technical groundwork is in place" comment.

A single movie in DVD resolution in H.264 should fit in 1-2GB, but to store those files you'd need a few petabytes of storage (if not more).

A terabyte isn't even impressive anymore. It's only 1000GB. I got half a terabyte sitting under my Mac mini right now (2 x 250GB).

 

[Mulyahnto]

I think no matter what apple does, people are going to buy, not necessarily most people, but there is something to say for not having to run out to the store or waiting for a DVD to be shipped from amazon....consumers are very impulsive and impatient. A simple mixed pricing model, however does sound like a good sales strategy. It has to be simple though.

 

[iGary]

No gracias.

 

[andiwm2003]

if i'm totally bored and a movie is highly interesting then i could see myself buying a movie for $10 every 3 month or so. more or less dvd quality would be ok. just the download has to be very fast.
i'd prefer even a 480i quality for $5.

 

[Thataboy]

These people are nuts.

There is a place for downloadable, lo-res 320x320 movies in this world.... At a SEVERELY LOWERED price point.

DRM's 320x320 movies with no extra content should be $1.99-$4.99. I have to wonder what fairytale land these people are in to believe this stuff is worth $9.99, never MIND $19.99!

$19.99!!! I mean, HONESTLY. I am a super duper crazy nutty Apple fan boy, but I will NEVER buy one of these premium-priced, low-quality movies.

 

[adamfilip]

If apple allows you do purchase movies at up to 1080p (give you the option you want to download it at)

but also sets it up.. so you can redownload if you delete it.. in your account
this is one reason i dont like buying music..
if i format my computer and loose the music i bought.. i cant just go back into my itunes account and redownload it.. even tho i bought it already

 

[zim]

Maybe, only maybe and it would depend on having an iPod that can play video, which I will have sometime this year, and if I was possibly going on a trip and needed entertainment for the flight etc. But, seeing how I am not even interested in buying TV shows then the chance of me buying a movie is slim to none. I have really no interest in TV or movies on my mac. I do watch podcasts but in part because it is a break from TV and movies.

 

[liketom]

if you delete it.. in your account
this is one reason i dont like buying music..
if i format my computer and loose the music i bought.. i cant just go back into my itunes account and redownload it.. even tho i bought it already

yes you can


e-mail itunes support and beg them for a redownload link

 

[iBrow]

Nope, Doesnt interest me and never will.

 

[Tanglewood]

The only way I see myself buying a movie off iTunes is for long flights where the inflight movie would probably not interest me. For anything else I'd rather buy the DVD.

 

[treblah]

You 'only if it's HD' people are living in bizarro world.

Some very quick calculations based on the Quicktime HD gallery files.

Roughly 100MB for 2 minutes of footage at 720p. Thats about 5.5GB for a 2 hour movie. Which is a 5 hour download at 300KB/s which is on the higher end of broadband speeds.

Still with me. Not to mention the iPod barely plays 320x240 H.264 for 2 hours now. Yet somehow Apple is going to get more than 2 hours at 720p?

Sorry to put a damper on things but the iTMovieS is about selling iPods, not giving you HD content to watch on your TV.

 

[FleurDuMal]

No thanks. I'll just continue to rent them and then rip and encode them to my computer £7 a month for 4 movies? Yes please!

 

[adamfilip]

yes you can


e-mail itunes support and beg them for a redownload link

I didnt realize that..

begging over email. doesnt sound very convienient

 

[ITR 81]

$9.99 going to seem cheap in about yr or two once lowercost BR and HD DVD players hit the marketplace.

The movie industry has already said normal DVD's are priced entirely too low.

So all new HD/BR movies will be selling $24-35 bucks on avg.
Add any other disc to that and your looking at $50-60 bucks.

List price on most all BR movies are $39.99-34.99.
List price on most all HD movies are $30.00-35.00.

When I say low cost HD/BR players...folks getting them with the 360 or PS3 this x'mas...along with folks buying new players.

The whole DVD market is going to get crazy in around 2 yrs.
(I think the std will be set within 3-4 yrs) In 5 yrs I figure 25-35% of the pop will have a BR/HD player of some sort...most them being 360 or PS3 related.

I got my first DVD player through the PS2. I'm sure others got one through the Xbox or their computer. It won't be long maybe next yr before computer companies start selling BTO computers with a BR/HD option.

I myself am going BR with the PS3 and I hope Apples does the same.

 

[bretm]

Agree - if they are as bad as DVDs are, it won't be worthwhile.

For 1080p movies in a non-proprietary format, I might be a customer. For "480i", no way...

??? What are you doing, watching standard def DVDs on an HDTV? Yeah, that does look horrible. Sorta the interim problem with most HD sets that are plasma or LCD. The tube does better for multrez.

 

[adamfilip]

watching 1080p movies on my 24"dell monitor

 

[bigandy]

what a bloody stupid poll. i know what it means by "quality remaining the same" but what's to say everyone else does. It should really mention staying the same as iTMS Music Videos.

pah.

 

[ITR 81]

No thanks. I'll just continue to rent them and then rip and encode them to my computer £7 a month for 4 movies? Yes please!

Has anyone hacked a BR encoded disc yet? Or HD encoded disc?

I'm wondering since this will be the formats of the future in approx. 4-5 yrs.


I bet once HD movies hit the rental shops..the prices to rent will go up as well..since their cost is going up to buy them.

Our local rental shop does a deal where you can rent two and can get two rentals for free. 7 day rentals I think.

I myself usually just buy used DVD's and sometimes new ones..when I want something right-a-way.

I rip DVD's for traveling purposes..(never take your orig. copies of a movie on a trip with you)

 

[crees!]

I think he meant "terabytes" to comment on the "technical groundwork is in place" comment.

A single movie in DVD resolution in H.264 should fit in 1-2GB, but to store those files you'd need a few petabytes of storage (if not more).

A terabyte isn't even impressive anymore. It's only 1000GB. I got half a terabyte sitting under my Mac mini right now (2 x 250GB).

So somehow he knows that Apple isn't technically ready to launch such a service? Cause that is exactly what he's saying. Lies.. lies!

 

[dausone]

You 'only if it's HD' people are living in bizarro world.

Exactly!!! Man, people are smokin crack this morning... thinking an HD movie is even remotely logical to store and playback on an iPod, even if it is a new iPod with bumped up capacity. Lets get real for a second people... if you want HD buy the damn disc... were talking about an 6G iPod here, not a 10G if your lucky to see it even by then.

 

[FleurDuMal]

Has anyone hacked a BR encoded disc yet? Or HD encoded disc?

I'm wondering since this will be the formats of the future in approx. 4-5 yrs.


I bet once HD movies hit the rental shops..the prices to rent will go up as well..since their cost is going up to buy them.

Our local rental shop does a deal where you can rent two and can get two rentals for free. 7 day rentals I think.

I myself usually just buy used DVD's and sometimes new ones..when I want something right-a-way.

I rip DVD's for traveling purposes..(never take your orig. copies of a movie on a trip with you)

I have absolutely no need for HD/BR anyway. Most of the movies I watch are either old (pre-digital days) or are relatively low budget independent films which can't afford to film in a way to take advantage of the new technology (to film in HD can increase filming costs around 50%). By the time I actually buy into the HD/BR generation, it'll be mainstream and I assume someone would've cracked any protection codes by then

 

[Bad Beaver]

You 'only if it's HD' people are living in bizarro world.

Because we don't want to pay throught the nose for lo-fi quality? Just because people are deaf enough to buy from the iTMS it doesn't mean they are also blind enough for bad video.

Roughly 100MB for 2 minutes of footage at 720p. Thats about 5.5GB for a 2 hour movie. Which is a 5 hour download at 300KB/s which is on the higher end of broadband speeds.

So what? Connections get faster all the time, and an interesting service would only accelerate the process. The higher end of broadband in my region is also rather 16mbit

Not to mention the iPod barely plays 320x240 H.264 for 2 hours now.

Last time I checked "watching a movie" at home was associated with "TV", "Couch", "Surround Sound", "Snacks", "Drinks". Limiting to iPod quality would be utter insanity. They would miss some 98% of the market.

Sorry to put a damper on things but the iTMovieS is about selling iPods, not giving you HD content to watch on your TV.

Ah, good that you know already, we can only stare from behind.

 

[adamfilip]

Exactly!!! Man, people are smokin crack this morning... thinking an HD movie is even remotely logical to store and playback on an iPod, even if it is a new iPod with bumped up capacity. Lets get real for a second people... if you want HD buy the damn disc... were talking about an 6G iPod here, not a 10G if your lucky to see it even by then.

who really cares about watching movies on an ipod..

i believe this is more a service for desktop home users then ipod people.
altough i think different pricing for different resolutions would be reasonable