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iTunes Music Store Has Sold 20 Million Songs

20 million is only 20% of 100 million :)

They are not close to their target. By what date did he (steve jobs) say he wanted to sell 100 million?
 
good news. sales seems to been holding. i'm still not sure about 100 million by late april, but we shall see. i'm also curious about other services as well.

as for average mac and pc users... remember that for every one technologically savy PC user who builds his own system, there are a bunch of PC users out there with the bare min. $500 dell machines and using only aol or business executive/management users using only outlook... those are not technological people. because macs cost more up front and are different from PC/windows, it takes a certain base knowledge of computing technology to even think of getting a mac.

i offer no proof but what he said about average mac and pc users is probably not a complete lie.
 
Originally posted by 1macker1
20 million is only 20% of 100 million :)

They are not close to their target. By what date did he (steve jobs) say he wanted to sell 100 million?
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jobs said by one year anniv. of iTMS - so that would be late April. i too think they won't quite get 100 million. i'd imagine 50 million would be a reasonable goal, with 4+ months left.

it will probably depend on the following two factors:

1) see how many people are getting their first ipod for christmas and subsequently starts downloading music via iTMS

2) see how pepsi's 100 million song 'give-aways' do. if it's "free" (not really because you will be paying for pepsi products...) people will certainly use the downloads...
 
Originally posted by pkradd
"Apple's goal was 100 million the first year"

Hogwash. Apple never made any predictions of sales.

Sounds like a troll to me :eek:
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Kinda hard for Arn to be a troll when he runs the dang site. :p

Seriously though. Good for Apple. But as someone else pointed out...what are the numbers for Napster and MM.

I've purchased 148 songs from iTMS and 2 songs from Music Match just to see how easy MM was. (Easy enough to convert them back over to AAC after I burned them to CD so no money lost on my part.) I haven't been finding myself purchasing any albums since most of the ones I want are partials and not available for purchase and that I've found I purchase one track from the album, then another, then another. By the time I realize I like the entire album I've already purchased 1/4-1/3 the tracks of the album making my return on investment of 9.99 somewhat diminished. I wish the iTMS would cut you a break if you've already purchased A few tracks already. :( :p :)
 
I think they'll make their goal

100 million isn't too far-fetched. Their growth curve is exponential, and it's just starting to take off. There are going to be a lot of iPods and a lot of iTunes gift certificates given out this Christmas. I know my kids will be getting them (the gift certificates, not the iPods. I'm not that nice a dad) ;)
 
Win iTunes Needs Work

I haven't had the luxury to MAKE THE SWITCH yet. Although, my PC keeps developing a new ailment every week or two, I may have to force the plunge, regardless of my unemployment.

Anyway...

I use iTunes on Windows, and I love it! However, it is one slow, slow beast. And, there are some minor bugs and yes, I have thought of an interface tweak here or there. But, my walk away point here is that iTunes on Windows is slow, slow, slow.

I fear this is holding back even greater adoption of iTunes on the Windows platform.

Eirik

PS It sure beats the hell out of MusicMatch.
 
well if they sell an average of 1,000,000 a week since itunes for windows came out then they will sell at least 20 million by end of april. total being 40 million, thats if the average stays exactly the same, which i'm sure it won't with all the deals and ads! i think they have a real good chance at 100 million thought they will have to kick there average up to 3 million during the next 5 months
 
Originally posted by jxyama

2) see how pepsi's 100 million song 'give-aways' do. if it's "free" (not really because you will be paying for pepsi products...) people will certainly use the downloads...
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Apple made it clear that the Pepsi downloads weren't counting toward their goal of 100 million. Of course, it's possible that with the Pepsi freebees lots of people will go out and buy some songs which would count.
 
I find that iTunes for windows slow, but not horribly slow. I get 10x speeds on my 1.8ghz P4, so it's not bad. Plus I think iTunes does a better job at encoding than Real, WMP, or others do for MP3 or AAC. Same with playback, iTunes sounds much clearer and richer than WinAmp or others do.
 
Originally posted by DGFan
Apple made it clear that the Pepsi downloads weren't counting toward their goal of 100 million. Of course, it's possible that with the Pepsi freebees lots of people will go out and buy some songs which would count.
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I'm not so sure of that. I could have sworn that because Pepsi was paying for them it counted. I mean the songs get bought one way or another, right?

P-Worm
 
has the aol deal started yet. jobs mentioned that they were going to team with aol music to link everything in that section to the itms, but thankfully i don't have aol so i dont know if it has started.
 
Re: iTunes Music Store Has Sold 20 Million Songs

Originally posted by Macrumors
Some interesting statistics from the NPD Group showed that the average iTunes customer bought 49 songs during the first four months of the iTunes Music Store's operation, which comes out to twice the purchasing pattern of the average teenager over the same time period.
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Er, maybe its just me, but so what?

What this is saying is that one group of people, "iTunes customers," bought more music than another, independent group of people, "teenagers." It leads you to think that teenagers must be buying more music than adults through implication, but never actually says that (which makes me suspicious - marketing statistics are generally doubtful anyway). What percentage of iTunes customers are teenagers, anyway? Also, there should be some overlap there, if you assume that some teenagers are using the iTunes music store (which, if you go with the conclusion that they want you to, implies that non-iTunes-teenagers must be buying less than half as much as the iTunes-teenagers to make the numbers come out correctly.

A useful number would compare the buying habits of the same group of people, differing only in their approaches (using iTunes, using other online music stores, or using conventional stores). Not having these numbers makes me think that they wouldn't be as impressive as the ones quoted.

What was that Clemens quote again? Lies, damned lies, and statistics?

-Richard
 
Originally posted by P-Worm
I'm not so sure of that. I could have sworn that because Pepsi was paying for them it counted. I mean the songs get bought one way or another, right?

P-Worm
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Apple is paid for the Pepsi downloads. However, in an interview with an Apple executive (not Jobs) it was stated
1) the goal is 100 million downloads
2) that goal is from launch last April and not from the Windows iTunes launch
3) the Pepsi downloads aren't counted toward the goal

I don't have a reference for this but it was in one of the articles floating around the news sites when iTunes for Windows was launched.
 
This is great news – it’s nice to see the service being successful and bringing in some extra revenue for Apple. Are there any figures out there that show how Apple’s ITMS sales have been since this competition started up though? What about Napster, et al? Have sales slowed at all? Those will definitely be interesting figures to see in the New Year, once the plethora of other online stores start up. Then we'll see who will stand the test of time....
 
Originally posted by DGFan
3) the Pepsi downloads aren't counted toward the goal
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Wrong. When Jobs announced iTunes for Windows he also stated the goal of 100m tracks. Then he said, and I quote "In order to reach this goal, we are going to give away 100 million songs" via the Pepsi promotion.

Can't you people please check your facts before you open your mouths?
 
Originally posted by spaced
Wrong. When Jobs announced iTunes for Windows he also stated the goal of 100m tracks. Then he said, and I quote "In order to reach this goal, we are going to give away 100 million songs" via the Pepsi promotion.

Can't you people please check your facts before you open your mouths?
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Took the words right outta my mouth!
 
Originally posted by winmacguy
One could argue that indeed, but as a PC WinXP owner an Mac operator myself I would say that your statement is probably untrue.

I have a pretty good working knowledge of Apple from a production point of view and a home user PC from a hobbyist point of view although I wouldnt say that I could build my own PC.


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Building a PC is really very easy but to build a good solid working PC is quite a diffferent story. I have put together a lot of PC's and to make it work well you have to find out what pieces work the best with each other.
 
Originally posted by the_mole1314
I find that iTunes for windows slow, but not horribly slow. I get 10x speeds on my 1.8ghz P4, so it's not bad. Plus I think iTunes does a better job at encoding than Real, WMP, or others do for MP3 or AAC. Same with playback, iTunes sounds much clearer and richer than WinAmp or others do.
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The speed is usually a function of your computer , the connection traffic (ie time of day) , connecting device and so on ...
 
Originally posted by the_mole1314
What I think the Apple Rep ment was that any un-used free songs won't count towards the total.
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that sounds right. i don't remember explicitly reading that any portion of the 100 million pepsi promotion NOT being counted in the total.

but it certainly makes sense not to count the ones that weren't used... otherwise, "of course we've reached the goal of 100 million! we announced that we are giving away 100 milliion!" :D
 
Originally posted by eazyway
The speed is usually a function of your computer , the connection traffic (ie time of day) , connecting device and so on ...
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i think mole was referring to the ripping speed ("10x") and not the iTMS speed...
 
not really, building a PC is pretty easy, you can do it in half-an-hour if you have all the parts and a few screws - motherboard, processor, video card, network card, HD, CD/DVD drive, Ram, and a few cables which you just hook-up the connectors to the motherboard - if anyone think that's techological sophisticated, he or she has never built one or a idiot who think it's rocket science - which fits my "schick (sick)" analogy pretty well
:)
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Actually I disagree, the "average" computer user may not know enough to build a PC. That doesn't mean they cannot learn it (Just like I could learn how to maintain my car). But stating that building PC is easy is an understatement. You need to understand CPU/Motherboard compatibility, Bus types (ATA,SCSI,etc...), PCI/AGP/LMR, etc... You can't just go buy any hard drive or CPU and expect it to work. You need to have a good understanding of hardware, like punter said, and know if the components you bought are going to work together.

As for Apples "success" selling 20 million is great, but whats the margin on a song? I can't imagine its that big?

Also, what effect has the iTMS popularity had on iPod sales? Any?
 
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