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iTunes says It's Showtime

also.... i wonder if gapless playback work on an existing nano

slate1 said:
Just wondering - in Steve's address he stated that the Nano would now have the functionality of the regular iPod - i.e. video playback. It's been shown that the existing Nano can play back video with a software hack, hoping that they'll release an update to allow that functionality on the existing Nanos.

Wishful thinking I suppose! :D
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One of my biggest wishes is that the gapless playback will work on existing Nanos. I just purchased the freakin' thing a little over a month ago and this is my only complaint about it. It would be great to have it fixed!
 
tonyvz said:
I do not like the new scroll bars.

I really hope this isn't a "sneak peek" as to what the finder windows will look like in Leopard.
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Hmm. I like the new scroll bars. But I don't like the fact that it's not putting the double arrows at both ends, the way I like (and have used TinkerTool and related utilities to implement since before OS X).
 
As important as the iPod? They'll sell tons, for sure...

jamesnajera said:
How can you not be sure, all iTV is an iPod+iTunes with your TV as a screen. You will now be able to visit iTunes with it from your TV and purchase movies, music, etc from it. Movies will probably be stored on it or streamed from your computer to it. This is not better than windows media center, in fact they should have put a tuner in mac mini, that would be better than wmc, but still not original. Why do you think they allow for your iPod or Library to be authenticated on more than one computer, it is to support this device in the future.
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I don't really have much of a clue as to what the box does exactly, but if it provides all PC users - regardless of their OS - access to the next-gen FrontRow, I think it is a pretty big deal.

Does iTunes handle photos? As far as I know, it doesn't. And there might be a bunch of other little things like these that could make the integration between this set-top box and a Mac better than between the box and a Windows computer. There's probably a lot of stuff that I'm missing, but to me, the set-top box is HUGE!!11II!!!!e!evenIII!!111!!!

The movie downloads are nice, but I suspect that the torrent sites will contribute just as much - if not more - to Apple's hardware sales. Five years from now, we'll look back at the day Apple showcased this little box for the first time and think: "This is when it all started." My two cents, anyways.
 
Bregalad said:
The iTV: I realize the aforementioned updates aren't worthy of a media event so I need to show off something that won't be available to anyone except me until next year.
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or "let's hope this announcment stops the share price from instantly tanking because we didn't announce a redesigned iPod."
 
mtrctyjoe said:
VERY DISAPPOINTED ON THE MOVIE SIDE - not APPLE at all if you ask me. They blew it. Big Time.

Nice updates to iPod and iTunes.... that is it as far as I am concerned. Apple has it wrong with movies - plain and simple - no way am I paying $9.99 to $14.99 for a movie I will watch ONE TIME! PLUS $299.99 for a scaled down mini to stream video too??? What the?

I can rent videos at netflix / blockbuster at higher quality for less $$ and watch them on a $50 DVD player...
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I didn't see anything indicating that you'd be limited to viewing the movie only once... surely not:confused:
 
Get album art not working?

The "get album art" option doesn't seem to work.

e.g. if i delete low resolution album art I downloaded previously to see if itunes would replace it, nothing happens...?

[EDIT] NOW SEEMS TO BE WORKING
 
DrFrankTM said:
I don't really have much of a clue as to what the box does exactly, but if it provides all PC users - regardless of their OS - access to the next-gen FrontRow, I think it is a pretty big deal.

Does iTunes handle photos? As far as I know, it doesn't. And there might be a bunch of other little things like these that could make the integration between this set-top box and a Mac better than between the box and a Windows computer. There's probably a lot of stuff that I'm missing, but to me, the set-top box is HUGE!!11II!!!!e!evenIII!!111!!!

The movie downloads are nice, but I suspect that the torrent sites will contribute just as much - if not more - to Apple's hardware sales. Five years from now, we'll look back at the day Apple showcased this little box for the first time and think: "This is when it all started." My two cents, anyways.
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Dude, I am sorry DrFrank, but this is nothing more than a wireless video streamer with the ability to buy stuff from apple. All those people that wanted a iPod with wireless well here it is. Apple is probably hoping that this will replace video on demand, since you will actually own the movies.
 
ArcaneDevice said:
or "let's hope this announcment stops the share price from instantly tanking because we didn't announce a redesigned iPod."
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I said that few pages back.

I was watching the stock during the keynote, and we're right, its down. And the iTV didn't bring it up.
 
danielbriggs said:
Just a thought about the iTV thingy. Could you stick a mac Mini on top, like the extra HDD for it you can buy? Then you could use it like a tv???
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Probably could, though I think that would defeat the purpose of the box since you can already, I think, connect your MacMini to the tv with a cable and the whole point of the iTV is wireless.
 
slate1 said:
One of my biggest wishes is that the gapless playback will work on existing Nanos. I just purchased the freakin' thing a little over a month ago and this is my only complaint about it. It would be great to have it fixed!
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This is my question, too. Is gapless only availible on the new iPods? It strikes me that this is somthing that could be cured through a firmware update. Serioulsy, Animals just isn't the same.
 
This iTV sounds like a lot of work to watch a movie, wait for it to download, then if you want to watch it at a friends house you have to take the iTV with you? Why do all that when there's Netflix or even a free torrent (if you love to wait)? Or buy it at Walmart the day it's released and own the box and all. Todays technology seems a bit backwards sometimes.
 
DrFrankTM said:
The movie downloads are nice, but I suspect that the torrent sites will contribute just as much - if not more - to Apple's hardware sales. Five years from now, we'll look back at the day Apple showcased this little box for the first time and think: "This is when it all started." My two cents, anyways.
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in it's current form I find it utterly pointless. It's not a PVR, it doesn't look like it can operate independently of a desktop and the content isn't widescreen!

Why bother hooking something up to a large screen TV when the majority of big screens are now almost universally 16:9 just to play a lower res 4:3 image? Especially at the price Apple is charging. For $4 I can get movies on demand from my cable operator at better quality, and I won't pay $4 if the presented image isn't widescreen. Even ABC can stream Lost in 16:9.

A media PC fills the same amount of space and offers DVR functionality, DVD playback and basic PC capability.

Videophiles want HD and if it's not HD they at least want widescreen. Until iTunes offers at least one of those it's going to be a simple device for only the easily pleased.
 
danielbriggs said:
Just a thought about the iTV thingy. Could you stick a mac Mini on top, like the extra HDD for it you can buy? Then you could use it like a tv???
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It seems to be the same surface, but half the height, so I don't see why you couldn't put a Mini on top if you wanted, but I think the whole point is that, if you have this box near your TV, you won't need a Mini there (and vice versa). The interest of having the same form factor is that a bunch of accessories designed for the Mini will be directly transferable to the new set-top box. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if you could connect an external hard drive like the NewerTech miniStack, for example, and access your media from the hard drive without any computer in the loop. Of course, the box *will* pull content from other computers too - PC or Mac -, but I see many uses for that USB port.
 
The underrated New Shuffle

I haven't seen many people mentioning it, but I'd actually say that the New Shuffle is the one thing that I'm most excited about. As a runner, it's an absolute home run. No more fumbling with armbands--just clip and go.

Now, was the New Shuffle and the other "big announcements" enough to get me excited about this event, probably not. Anyone who buys an iPod before the new vPods come out is probably making a mistake (IMO).
 
ArcaneDevice said:
in it's current form I find it utterly pointless. It's not a PVR, it doesn't look like it can operate independently of a desktop and the content isn't widescreen!

Why bother hooking something up to a large screen TV when the majority of big screens are now almost universally 16:9 just to play a lower res 4:3 image? Especially at the price Apple is charging. For $4 I can get movies on demand from my cable operator at better quality, and I won't pay $4 if the presented image isn't widescreen. Even ABC can stream Lost in 16:9.

A media PC fills the same amount of space and offers DVR functionality, DVD playback and basic PC capability.

Videophiles want HD and if it's not HD they at least want widescreen. Until iTunes offers at least one of those it's going to be a simple device for only the easily pleased.
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For one thing, I'd be surprised if you can't access content stored on a USB external drive connected to the iTV without involving any (other) PC.

Secondly, who said the only content you'll be able to watch is what you buy on the iTMS?

I obviously don't know the details yet anymore than anyone here, but Apple pretty much announced the iHome today. I have a feeling this is going to be pretty big...
 
shadowx said:
The whole iTV preview / preannouncement thing is just bizarre. Not that it doesn't look interesting... but that it is very "un-apple-like" to do such a thing. Giving out so many details... including the price... Is this a trend?
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I belive it was done to prop-up the movie sales. Let the world know that there will be a way to get the content out onto their televisions in the future.
 
Pismonium said:
This iTV sounds like a lot of work to watch a movie, wait for it to download, then if you want to watch it at a friends house you have to take the iTV with you? Why do all that when there's Netflix or even a free torrent (if you love to wait)? Or buy it at Walmart the day it's released and own the box and all. Todays technology seems a bit backwards sometimes.
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You don't have to wait for it to download. If you have a fast enough connection, you can start watching while it's downloading, within 30 seconds of starting the download.
 
ArcaneDevice said:
in it's current form I find it utterly pointless. It's not a PVR, it doesn't look like it can operate independently of a desktop and the content isn't widescreen!

Why bother hooking something up to a large screen TV when the majority of big screens are now almost universally 16:9 just to play a lower res 4:3 image? Especially at the price Apple is charging. For $4 I can get movies on demand from my cable operator at better quality, and I won't pay $4 if the presented image isn't widescreen. Even ABC can stream Lost in 16:9.

A media PC fills the same amount of space and offers DVR functionality, DVD playback and basic PC capability.

Videophiles want HD and if it's not HD they at least want widescreen. Until iTunes offers at least one of those it's going to be a simple device for only the easily pleased.
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Who says the iTV is limited to 4:3? Who says the iTV can only do 640x480? The thing isn't even out yet. We only got a little sneaky peek.

We do know that the iTV will play media that is streamed from another computer, preferably a Mac. All new Macs can play HDTV material. All new Macs can record HDTV using stuff like EyeTV and Migila's stuff.

Why couldn't the iTV play the HD material that people already have on their Macs? Perhaps the delay (Q1 2007) is due to the finalization of 802.11n so that home networks have the capacity to stream 1080p material from a Mac to the iTV.

Just because the iTMS is selling shows and movies at 640x480 doesn't mean this device is limited to that resolution.
 
This new iTunes 7 is by far one of the strangest looking iLife applications... what the hell is this??? Does anyone else think this is the future of Aqua for Leopard? (Notice how the smooth scrollbar style now matches the Apple and Spotlight logo styles as well)
 
more podering on the "iTV"

If this thing has HDMI and Component Video, it is fully capable of displaying HD content. I'm sure whatever you pull into iTunes will play over the "iTV." I've found that not all podcasts are iPod ready. The Yoga Today podcast downloads as a .mov file, and I believe has a higher resolution than 320x240. Can't you currently add any video to iTunes, assuming you have the right codec to play it back? iTunes is just a interface for Quicktime, right? I bet the "iTV" plays the media in it's native size.

er...i meant, pondering, but is suppse podering is not far off.
 
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