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Yeah - but the Australian music industry is pretty lame.

Interesting though that Apple has chosen this price point as its flat price - given that similar services (eg Bigpond Music) sell songs for between 99c to $1.89...
 
J-Squire said:
I can't imagine using iTunes for single song purchases. I will probably just get the odd single song here and there from LimeWire or something. But album purchases will go through iTunes. $16 for an album is still $10 less than you would pay in a retail store (generally. yes I know some albums are $20, but still....it's cheaper), and all i do with my albums is rip them and put them on my iPod, so I have no need for the CD.

Yeah, that's fine and good for you - but personally, I'd much rather have the physical item with the case, cover, artwork and booklet too.

An album (well, ones made by artists that care) is still a work of art - downloading DRM'd tracks will never replace that.

And for the record, it's closer to $17, assuming 10 tracks per album. More realistically, you're looking at between $20-25 - which is okay compared to new releases that sell for between $25-30 (and even then, you don't get the physical item and its corresponding artwork), but not so good for older stuff that would seel for between $10-$20 from a record store. :)
 
Nermal said:
There are welcome messages for an independent NZ store, so I'm confident that it's coming. Of course, it hasn't been released yet, so we shouldn't all be stressing about having no NZ flag yet. It might turn up this week, or maybe Apple's just laying down foundations for a store which isn't going to open for another couple of months.
I too thought that the Australian/NZ iTMS might be combined into one, but to put them under one flag is too ridiculous. Imagine if the US and Canada had one store called United States and Canada (for example), and they just had the US flag as the icon? That seems pretty insulting - nothing to do with nationalism, it's just plain wrong.
 
zen said:
I too thought that the Australian/NZ iTMS might be combined into one, but to put them under one flag is too ridiculous. Imagine if the US and Canada had one store called United States and Canada (for example), and they just had the US flag as the icon? That seems pretty insulting - nothing to do with nationalism, it's just plain wrong.

And exchange rates - though I'd much rather pay NZD$1.69 than AUD$1.69.

Our prices are about the same as the European stores - slightly more than continental Europe and about the same as the UK. And a total joke when compared to the Canadian price, which is about AUD$1.02! :(
 
OziMac said:
Yeah, that's fine and good for you - but personally, I'd much rather have the physical item with the case, cover, artwork and booklet too.

An album (well, ones made by artists that care) is still a work of art - downloading DRM'd tracks will never replace that.

And for the record, it's closer to $17, assuming 10 tracks per album. More realistically, you're looking at between $20-25 - which is okay compared to new releases that sell for between $25-30 (and even then, you don't get the physical item and its corresponding artwork), but not so good for older stuff that would seel for between $10-$20 from a record store. :)

Full albums are not priced by the number of songs on the album. You can get a 16 track album on the US store for 9.99. Albums are typically the per track rate times 10, but are not based on number of tracks, unless that number is less than 10, or greater than 16. Most albums have 10-15 tracks. So $16.99 is what we will be paying for MOST albums.

edit: I just read my post. It sounds bloody confusing.
On the US store (and european, and canadian):
1 Song: 99c
4 song EP: 3.96
10 song album: 9.99
12 song album: 9.99
14 song album: 9.99
18 song album: >9.99
 
J-Squire said:
Full albums are not priced by the number of songs on the album. You can get a 16 track album on the US store for 9.99. Albums are typically the per track rate times 10, but are not based on number of tracks, unless that number is less than 10, or greater than 16. Most albums have 10-15 tracks. So $16.99 is what we will be paying for MOST albums.

edit: I just read my post. It sounds bloody confusing.
On the US store (and european, and canadian):
1 Song: 99c
4 song EP: 3.96
10 song album: 9.99
12 song album: 9.99
14 song album: 9.99
18 song album: >9.99

Cool, if that's the way it is for the Australian store then I get your point about price - but my point about value still stands :)

Also - heaps of songs / artists can now be downloaded from the 'Australian store' for $1.69, and yes, albums are indeed $16.99... looks like the back end is starting to ramp up big, awaiting the unveiling of the front end very soon... :D
 
solaris said:
I agreed to the simular "iTMS Terms and Conditions" earlier today.
I even read through the who line before I clicked "Agree"! Nice... :D

That's what I'm worrying about right now (and which keeps me from already buying stuff in the store) - it's technically illegal (at least in Switzerland) to use the store without having agreed to the terms and conditions. I really don't want to be kicked by Apple because of that.
 
pkis said:
That's what I'm worrying about right now (and which keeps me from already buying stuff in the store) - it's technically illegal (at least in Switzerland) to use the store without having agreed to the terms and conditions. I really don't want to be kicked by Apple because of that.

Didn't you agree to those terms by clicking 'Agree' when you signed up? :)
 
Zaty said:
Although I wanted to wait for the official launch, I couldn't resist and cashed in my free song :)

To my fellow Swiss MR members: Don't you think it must be a tragic day for mycokemusic.ch, directmedia.ch and the like as the Swiss iTMS probably had more visitors today :D

Well, it's going to be even more tragic to see that the iTMS will be selling more songs in a week than they have sold in a year...
If they don't QUICKLY match their prices and (above all) losen their DRM restrictions, I'm predicting that most (if not all) of the existing Windows-only Swiss music stores will go belly up within the next couple of years.
 
adam1185 said:
Ouch, that price is steep especially when you compare it to Canada's .99. The canadian dollar and australian dollar are almost even too!

yeah - the prices in the Swiss store are a lot lower as well (99 Rappen for songs by unpopular artists, 1.50 for popular songs and 10 Francs for whole albums). The Swiss Franc's worth almost the same as the Candian $
 
strolch said:
LOL

what i asked myself:
i'm using a UBS-CC. are all the other swiss users here UBS-clients too, or are ALL swiss users getting their free song aswell?

I'm not a UBS client and got the free song, too. I'm sure it's for everyone.
 
CHF 15 not 10 for an album/No songs for less than 1.50!

pkis said:
yeah - the prices in the Swiss store are a lot lower as well (99 Rappen for songs by unpopular artists, 1.50 for popular songs and 10 Francs for whole albums). The Swiss Franc's worth almost the same as the Candian $

It would have been too good to be true, an entire album now cots CHF 15, they must have changed prices overnight. :(

Edit:

Interestingly, most albums that were available yesterday, are not available anymore. At this time, you can only buy a few complete albums. I only hope it's not going to stay that way. But then, they're still in the process of adding songs to the store.
 
Zaty said:
It would have been too good to be true, an entire album now cots CHF 15, they must have changed prices overnight. :(

Edit:

Interestingly, must albums, that were available yesterday, are not available anymore. At this time, you can only buy a few complete albums. I only hope it's not going to stay that way. They're still in the process of adding songs to the store.

nooooooooooooooo :( Well, 15.- is the same as everywhere else, but still, that really sucks now that they had initally had a price tag of 10 per album.
I have the feeling that so far we haven't seen the local stores yet - perhaps they just used the US store in combination with local currencies for testing purposes. I don't want to spoil anything here - but slowly I'm starting to doubt that the store (at least the Swiss store, which looks somewhat empty now) will be ready by tomorrow. It took Apple several weeks to get the stores ready for the last enlargement, it would surprise me if it only took them 3 days to get the new ones up and running. We have absolutely no proof that the stores will actually go online tomorrow. For what I know, it could be another month before everything's ready. We also don't know how much in advance the flags were online last time - maybe they had been there for half a year and nobody noticed.

The statement by Apple Switzerland that the article on music.ch gave them a "belly ache" didn't sound to me like they were planning on launching this week. I had the feeling that they had only just started to prepare for a launch and because of the article they tried to rush things in order to get everything done by tomorrow because they didn't want to disappoint the customers again.
If there's no launch tomorrow, at least I hope they'll issue a statement about the actual launch date.
 
C'mon any one with a pea for a brian can make the buttons up

Who really bloody cares what Russell Crowe says, he disbanded his band cos he wanted the work done for before he released his "solo" *cough* album.
 
No more pre-release purchases in Australia

It seems they've shut down the gateway we had to purchase songs on the Australian store - now when you try to purchase a song, you get 'error 5002'. Oh well, not long to go at least :)
 
OziMac said:
It seems they've shut down the gateway we had to purchase songs on the Australian store - now when you try to purchase a song, you get 'error 5002'. Oh well, not long to go at least :)


I am suprised it took this long
 
Account disabled

Well, now I can't purchase any songs because 'your account has been disabled'.

Apparently, only iTMS UK Customer Service can re-enable it... interesting.
 
OziMac said:
Well, now I can't purchase any songs because 'your account has been disabled'.

Apparently, only iTMS UK Customer Service can re-enable it... interesting.

I saw that coming - I guess they started blocking the "early adopters"
 
pkis said:
I saw that coming - I guess they started blocking the "early adopters"

Yeah, fair enough, they need to lock it down for now (should have been locked down to begin with!). Here's hoping that the remaining credit on my account survives :)
 
OziMac said:
Yeah, fair enough, they need to lock it down for now (should have been locked down to begin with!). Here's hoping that the remaining credit on my account survives :)

yeah, but the big question will be whether they'll unlock those accounts again once the store is online
 
bcsmith said:
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but these URL's look fishy to me. Why would Apple host them images at edgesuit.net? Everything else that they host, flows through apple.com - mass downloads excluded. This doesn't mean that the appropriate countries won't get their own store, I just think that the pics are not proof positive.

Also the swiss flag looks a bit strange. Usually the bars of the cross are wider. The cross in this flag looks more like in the symbol of the 'swiss' airline.
 
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