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At which point you burn your purchased music as unprotected content on a CD, and then re-rip that music as a 100% unprotected music back to iTunes.

Yes, DRM sucks. It really, really does. But at least Apple has provided us with a means of bypassing it.

Ok, it's lossy and inconvenient, but at least it works. Though what about DRMed TV and Movies? The window is closing fast.
 
From the iTunes store I can choose Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Spain, Finland, France, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxemburg, Netherlands, Norway, Austria, Portugal, Switzerland, Sweden, UK

That's 17 countries isn't it?

Try buying from one that isnt your country of residence. Im a Brit in Germany, but I can not buy from iStore UK, my French wife can not buy from iStore France.... The local German iStore has a different selection from other others.

WHY... don´t you get the show from the us-store ?

See above

But what irrates me is the fact that it's illegal to not sell pan-eu, it's a right of any EU citizen to buy from any other state.

This is incorrect. As a citizen, I have a right to buy from any country in the EU without tax penalties. As a supplier I also have the right to sell into any EU country. Neither the buyer or seller is obliged to do so. Just as I can choose to buy from say France or Sweden, I could also choose NOT to sell to Spain or Poland.
 
This is incorrect. As a citizen, I have a right to buy from any country in the EU without tax penalties. As a supplier I also have the right to sell into any EU country. Neither the buyer or seller is obliged to do so. Just as I can choose to buy from say France or Sweden, I could also choose NOT to sell to Spain or Poland.

Not sure about other countries, but in the UK a shop isn't bound to sell anything to anyone. In effect, they offer the item for sale, you offer to buy it, they accept your offer and then the sale is completed. They can refuse to sell to you if they want, though that would kind of defeat the object of being a shop.
 
Apple thinks that "Europe" is UK, and UK alone. How many Apple Stores there are in Europe? IIRC, eight. Every... single... one... of... them... in... the... UK... No stores in Italy. No stores in Germany. No Stores in France. No stores in Spain. No stores in BeNeLux. No Stores in the Nordic countries. None. Few stores in UK and that's it.

As it happens, California alone has more stores than Europe and Japan combined. A lot more.

Maybe not official Apple Stores, but where I live (Utrecht, the Netherlands) there's two of them. They have all the benefits of "official" Apple Stores (fully stocked, Genius Bar, et al), designed like Apple Stores should be, and you can order directly from Apple via them... So, really, isn't that an Apple Store?

As for movies and series on the various European iTunes Stores... I don't know how attractive it will be if there's a gap between American broadcast-dates (and iTunes releases) of popular shows and the European release. If the newest episode of Veronica Mars, for example, hits the US iTunes Store the day after it's broadcast, but doesn't get put on the Dutch iTunes Store for another month (or some other arbitrary amount of time), then how willing will most people be to pay up? With movies, I think, it's different. I just know that I couldn't bear to be so far behind my American friends on the shows we watch. Might as well just watch them (the ones that actually come on Dutch TV, of course, so VM is a no-go) when they're broadcast on TV.
 
Apple thinks that "Europe" is UK, and UK alone. How many Apple Stores there are in Europe? IIRC, eight. Every... single... one... of... them... in... the... UK... No stores in Italy. No stores in Germany. No Stores in France. No stores in Spain. No stores in BeNeLux. No Stores in the Nordic countries.

It does seem strange that we have two in Manchester and none on the continent. Though if you look back, Apple were quite cautious at first when rolling out the stores in the US, but once they'd worked out the market they just exploded.
Perhaps they have high street non-compete deals with major distributors in France and Germany? In the UK there wasn't a Mac distributor of note on the high street before they started opening up Apple stores (and even now there's only 8 of those).

One of the problems with a pan European iTMS store is that music rights/compensations need to be negotiated on a per country rather than an EU wide basis. Lobby your MEP for an EU wide IPR collections agency!

I'd also like to see the UK paying a fair price per track! 1 EUR = 66p! 1 USD = 51p!
My kingdom for a US credit card!
 
Apple is a US company and unfortunately thinks US only...

58% of their income is from the USA and the rest comes from all other countries...

There are many countries that dont have an iTunes store or/and an Apple Store. This is absolutely ridiculous! If you look at Microsoft, they are everywhere!!! I am Greek but I live in Germany and here at least are the Gravis Stores and I can also buy online from the Apple Stores. I have dozens of friends in Greece who want to buy Apple products and dont have an Apple Store!!! There is a company in Greece named Rainbow that sells Apple products but they are not good. They are slow (they dont even have the Mac Pros yet!!!) and from them you cannot buy for example original Apple Memory...

Apple should be Worldwide Present! I dont understand why they are not. How can you expect to gain in market share if you are not present? Apple Products should also be available through all market channels, just like all other computer products. The way it is right now, most people think that Apple products are exotic!

I wonder, dont they see what is happening here???
 
QUOTE"Furthermore, the new members don't even have the Euro (currency) yet, and are often preoccupied with socio-political problems! Major parts of the population are often poor people that can't afford an internet connection, so why would they need an ITMS?"END QUOTE

Slovenia is a new member of EU and we do use Euro. Our GDP is as high as Spain and our standard is very close to the EU average. It is a big difference between us and eastern Europe. And there is no iTunes store. So if anyone should be getting it, it is us. We are in Eurozone, people can afford it and no, we don't use dial-up. Most people have VDSL, fiber or cable, unlike many people aborad may think. I don't know anyone who can't afford the internet connection. So if you speak about the poverty in countries like Poland or Slovakia, don't just say all new EU members, cause it is not the same. There is a big difference, since countries like Slovenia, Malta and Cyprus are like the old EU states and the rest is really way behind.

But I guess our market is too small for Apple to be interested. Too bad.

And yeah, according to the FairTrade, we should be able to buy in any EU store. I think they should make a common EU iTunes store. Or at least for Eurozone.
 
I am pretty sure that most American underestimate Europe and its power. This was made clear to me the years I worked for Microsoft, since I got the chance to get to know many Americans.

This is because a certain lack of Education plus a mentality issue. How many sport arts are there where their finals have the name "World" in it??? This goes to show how arrogant some people are...

Most Americans have such a low level that dont even know where most European countries are...They know England and maybe Germany...
Please US members here in the forum dont get insulted, I dont mean it in a bad way, its just my impression after many trips to the States and three years working at Microsoft...

Of course there are many US citizens that are well educated and arent as arrogant as most.

I think that Apple suffers from the exact same disease...

Europe is actually much more advanced in many things, such as mobile communications. UMTS is here wide spread and the mobile phones we get here are much better in comparison to the US ones...

I believe that a US company should respect Europe and the rest of the world more...We are all humans at the end...
 
Maybe not official Apple Stores, but where I live (Utrecht, the Netherlands) there's two of them. They have all the benefits of "official" Apple Stores (fully stocked, Genius Bar, et al), designed like Apple Stores should be, and you can order directly from Apple via them... So, really, isn't that an Apple Store?

And check out this mall in Poland (especially in light of the Eastern European discussion).
http://www.galeriamokotow.pl/

Once it loads (you can skip the intro) click the "EN" on the upper right hand side for English, then go to "gallery of shops". They're listed in aphabetical order, and you'll note "Apple". ;) Click on it and you actually get a photo of the store - no idea of the selection of course, but the design sure looks familiar. :p
 
Not sure about other countries, but in the UK a shop isn't bound to sell anything to anyone. In effect, they offer the item for sale, you offer to buy it, they accept your offer and then the sale is completed. They can refuse to sell to you if they want, though that would kind of defeat the object of being a shop.

Thats basically what I said, but without UK specifics :)
 
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