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Re: sweeeeeet

Originally posted by jaredbbauer
Well what can we say. It is to bad these people haven't switched yet... NOTHING can ever work as well on a wintel machine as it does on a mac. Sad but true.

could you possibly make yourself sound any more retarded?
 
Re: Alarm

Originally posted by waynerj
One feature of MusicMatch that I liked that seems to be missing from iTunes for Windows is the ability to set it to start playing a pre-selected playlist at a certain time so it can be used as a customized alarm to wake up with in the morning. I wonder if anyone has come up with a way to make this work...

On the Mac set up a cron job to fire off an AppleScript that starts playing a specified song in iTunes.

On Windows you could do the same with a batch file scheduled form the AT command or the built in (GUI) job scheduler.

It's not a pre-canned solution but it could work if it is real important to you.
 
Incase it was burried to fast, and in response to a question I got-

He was using it atfirst for just PC playback etc, but he loved it so much he wen't out and bought an iPod on his lunch break!

Now thats the kind of stuff Apple want's with this store.

I noticed one annoying as hell Window "feature". When trying to import some of my songs from CD... Windows would not take my Moonlight Sonata's, because Moonlight had " " around it. You cant use " in a Windows file name apparently :\

I hope the music store is "fixed" so that none of the track names have " in them!!
 
Big time crash...

as I tried to drag ca. 800 selected mp3's from a window to the library, had to restart the machine...

PIII 500Mhz, 300Mb mem, W2K
 
No CD-Text, the only flaw.

What's with Apple and non-support of CD-Text. They brought this omission which is the only glaring flaw I can find, over from the Mac version.
 
I posted some time ago on page 6 and got to applogies for my comments regarding the US based stuff after looking into my former state the EU i have found a few legal issues regarding music and download matrial yes it seems that the US will always be first inline to gain anything thats the way of unkie sam what we have here though is the toal lack of respect for the Law {prodigy there law} why is it that we can access the iTunes Store yet we can not buy from it now if anyone with half a brain could work out that credit cards are used all over the world when yo go over seas i had my folks over last year from the uk i live in melbourne australia (GO MAGIES) and they were using there credit card for just about everything now why cant we use credit cards get billed and have it done becaue this Is really anoying i cant be bothered to wait for local stores to open there going to be ages before they get round to this part of the world.

I dont know if anyone else has mentioned this yet havent seen it mind you i am a little side tracked at the moment over people making points about cpu usage and if i hold the conner and drag it shoots to 100%. for an application that is designed for A Mac and now freshily ported makes a change . i say they have done a bloody great job with it no issues here only thing that dose puzzle me is when will we be getting the whole iLife Pack take it that we wont because well why would you buy a Mac if all its good stuff worked on pccceeee

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all in all i find iTunes Windozz to be great i can have aac files now and not worrie about not been able to use them on pc or Mac the sound issue can be related to some sound card drivers as well i think .. not that i have had any issues then again i un tick every god dam box first then tick to see what happens.

Respect must go out to The Team behind iTunes for both Mac and Windozz

Deffently buying a iPod Now

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on the pod side of things if and when i get a new Mac because i have a g3 400 iMac no usb2 or firewire on it but there is on my pc can the ipod swap between the 2 machines or is there going to be issues

thats my lot
 
Re: Re: Alarm

Originally posted by Steamboatwillie
On the Mac set up a cron job to fire off an AppleScript that starts playing a specified song in iTunes.

iCal is great for this, appointment alarms can be set to open any document.
 
Wow didn't know iCal could do that. I would like that, since I leave my comp on all night, and already have a script to play my top 15 songs.

I have a question though- Can Applescript launch if your computer is set to need a password on screensaver prompt?

See, every 5 mins(annoying sister protection) my comp goes into Screensaver, and I need to enter a password to get back in. I am betting this would wreck the process...
 
Originally posted by trose
Wow didn't know iCal could do that. I would like that, since I leave my comp on all night, and already have a script to play my top 15 songs.

It may have been new with 1.5.1.

I have a question though- Can Applescript launch if your computer is set to need a password on screensaver prompt?

iTunes is able to launch from iCal with passworded Screen Effects. It plays the song I select and then automagically walks through the library in whatever sort order I used last.

I just tried setting an event to open a handy Applescript that starts by activating the Finder, and all I got from the screen saver was a password prompt. :( You might want to play with it, seeing if iTunes can get away with it, maybe if you leave it running and can avoid an activate?
 
iTunes for Windows

Hey, I have recently downloaded iTunes for Windows and I have noticed that when I connected my IPOD next to a third of my music had little exclamation points next to them and I am unable to play them. Has anyone else had this problem?? and if so any ideas on how to fix this?? Thanks alot

ACTUALLY..I thought I fixed it but IT STILL DOESENT WORK :(
 
A lot of random iTunes4Windows stuff part 1

Originally posted by Petroman
Hey, I have recently downloaded iTunes for Windows and I have noticed that when I connected my IPOD next to a third of my music had little exclamation points next to them and I am unable to play them. Has anyone else had this problem?? and if so any ideas on how to fix this??

I'll start with this because it was the last post I read. The "!" means that the song wasn't found on your hard drive--this is not an iPod specific thing since if you tried to play back the song the same thing would have happened.

What is probably going on is that you either moved the files (you aren't having iTunes "organizing" you music) or you've messed with iTunes folder structure unmounted the drive where it originally found the files (happens in the case both "organizing" and not). On the Mac version (hasn't happened to me in Windows), you can double click the song and you are offered a chance to "find" the music on your hard drive. But restoring such aliases borders on extreme tedium--in iTunes 2 there used to be an applescript that would help you relink your music which is the last time such a serious issue happenned to me.

When you think of the logic behind the magic, it is sort of obvious and simple that this happens. But it doesn't seem that way when you're using it, I know.



In other news, read all the posts here and I think a few major points and a lot of minor ones.

Eugenia and OSNews
Eugenia isn't anti-Mac, she's anti-everything. If you read OSNews often enough she has a very strong "didn't work for me/didn't behave exactly the way I wanted therefore I don't like it" bias. She doesn't want to test iTunes on more than one computer; she expects it to work on a dual celeron with a Matrox card on it: those are her problems and its her site she can report what she wants--deal with it. She raved about Panther yesterday so it can go both ways--it's just very biased but not biased for/anti an OS--some people confuse that with impartial. I got sick of it so I stopped reading OSNews. Nobody held a gun to my hand and said, I gotta read everything she writes and she doesn't exactly delete posts off her board that are critical of her even if her response tone is a bit acerbic.

We're all hypocrites...
This leads me to my other major point which is that this a version 1.0 app rushed out the door in "internet time" (hehe) released for free on a platform that competes with Apple. I think we all need to consider that when making our comments. Yes, stuff doesn't work. Yes, it doesn't behave as expected (or it does). We can unistall this app and we should all know by now (Windows and Mac users) that you expect a point-oh release of a free app to have issues, especially when it's coming from Apple who has their own way at looking at the world.

How many Windows users had Steve Jobs with a gun to their head saying they have to install iTunes? How many of us (Windows users) haven't run into an issue with an uninstaller failing or snowballing corruption due to a bad installer/uninstaller? Most Windows users I know are afraid to install software and that's smart in some cases--once bitten twice shy.

But saying it's poor platform choice on the Mac side helps nobody and hurts everyone. I don't know why a lot of these people bought Windows-bundled machine or Windows OS, I know why I did: to run Linux, to do web-testing and run a few windows-specific wireless developer apps. Honestly, I'm familiar with the Apple's Jaguar kernel crash screen (bad 3rd party RAM caused a snowballing corruption) very well. Yeah sure it's in translucent grey in many different languages, but it's still a BSOD. Mac users aren't entirely immune.

Sure its fun to have a platform war, but as a user of 3+ platforms. But if we can't be civil, I hope we can keep the discussion constructive... :)
 
More crud...

Fast User Switching
I noticed that TN about iTunes not opening iTunes when another user is using it with Fast User Switching. This is not a problem with Windows Media so it isn't an OS thing. This doesn't work in Panther either so it definitely isn't an OS thing. It's a design problem in iTunes which they'll probably fix down the road when Mac users start getting copies of Panther and find this out!

PC Hardware
I agree with an earlier poster that Eugenia's problems are probably related to her Matrox card OpenGL drivers. Apple doesn't use (Microsoft) DirectX, and instead uses the (formerly proprietary, now pretty darn) OpenGL. Why would they bother supporting another adopt and destroy "standard" from Microsoft when it's probably a sizeable amount of extra coding. Of course, they could have tamed down the need to make it as close to the original as possible (aqua scroll widgets in XP--anyone think this is a bit extreme?).

Here is a case where I'd bet Jobs didn't let them. I think it was a high priority from someone high at Apple to make it mimic the original closely. Seems sensible to me.

OpenGL probably explains both it's slight sluggishness on some machines to it's downright slowness on others (I don't notice on one XP and one Win2K but to me everything in Windows seems sluggish except scrolling--I might add that as a Mac user I've gotten accustomed to slower scrolling so that's probably why I didn't notice that the scrolling was slow in iTunes for Windows). BTW did anyone else notice the widgets are slightly different between XP and 2K?

Bursty CPU
As for the bursty nature of doing a GUI task, the same is true in an Excel resize. CPU cycles hover low and then burst up high when you resize the window or move windows around. Of course the Apple stuff is going to run a bit higher because of OpenGL tacked onto that. What incentive does Microsoft have of encouraging good OpenGL support when they're the market leader with a competing, proprietary standard that they've locked up? Honestly.

Ogg/FLAC/Real/WMA support
There are a lot of choices out there for Windows including many 3rd party drivers for iPod. iTunes doesn't support these file formats on the Mac, why should we expect anything different in Windows? BTW, you can play back Ogg/FLAC/Real and unencumbered WMAs on the Mac, just not in iTunes. Heck there is an Ogg decoder that is a module in QuickTime. So using a "Quicktime has a component based architecture" doesn't fly here. If such a thing is such an issue you purchase Audion from Panic or whatever else.

Geiss
Geiss is great ever since I first saw it. There's been a Mac version (not a port, since it isn't open source) for a while called G-Force. What do you think the "G" stood for anyway? It was a homage to Geiss. I heard the programmer of G-Force later went on and wrote the iTunes visualizer for Apple but I don't know if it is true.

I can't say about the PC version, but the Mac version has had plugin support for a while. G-Force runs just fine in iTunes (as well as numerous other players), it also can take the audio out and play as a full screen based on whatever is going on (a la Geiss), and I bet a simple command-line can background it to the desktop if it doesn't have the support built-in already. Yes there are numerous other plugins too (not as many as the PC world).

If they made the Windows iTunes just as pluggable, I image we'll be seeing quite a flood.

illegal downloads
Can't comment here because it was effectively bashed on by others. However, I hesitate to use Job's term "stealing", I use "piracy" or "illegal" but I can't speak for stealing since that probably has a more specific legal meaning which copyright violations are not.

BTW, as a European he can download a lot of the music through Microsoft's own music service (in conjunction with some European company that secured some rights).

Tech specs != build quality
Where did this myth get spread. Just because the tech sheet is the same doesn't mean the build quality is, or the integration.

Yes, Apple may be using the same Broadcom or Intel network chip, the difference is Apple uses the same chip across the entire line of computers in that iteration and then codes the driver themselves. Very different.

How many times have I been given the runaround "Microsoft -> Vendor -> OEM -> Microsoft"? Sometimes it's no big deal and worth the pennies shaved, other times it's not worth my time.

How many PCs do I get from reputable vendors (Dell, HP, ...) where they put in a WinModem as their 56k fax/modem? What a pile of crap! The list goes on. These companies are systems integrators and do very little. Apple is more like the auto industry: sure Ford gets the same parts from the same suppliers as BMW but that doesn't make a F series pickup the same as a Z8.

Unfortunately for Apple, while the majority of us don't buy our cars based on a spec sheet, we seem to like to do that when we purchase a computer. Not making a judgement here one way or the other.

Music selection
That's not Job's choice in music. I'll go out on a limb and say that there's probably a reason Apple doesn't have an Metallica on iTMS and it has little to do with Jobs.

Then again, Apple is not out to replace your music store. They're out to stay the #1 legal download site out there and drive some iPod sales. Compared to their pay-for-download competitors' selection and service, they're doing quite well (3/4 of the market). Compared to Kazaa? Well you can play your Kazaa downloads back in iTunes and on your iPod so it doesn't matter much in the strategic sense to Apple.

Certainly better than BuyMusic buying the "rights" to a lot of indie songs from a company that was supposed to be out of business!

two music folder
Sounds to me like you have iTunes not manage your music. That's fine, but did you do a disk usage on the iTunes folder? It doesn't make a copy of your music, it probably stores Windows shortcuts to the music (can't say, on Windows, I'm having it manage music).

resize box
Windows users need to understand that in the mac world, that isn't a "maximize" button. For instance in Safari, that button only expands the window vertically down. There's no UI guideline at Microsoft saying that this should be the case and this is exactly how it behaves on the Mac.

Mac users need to realize this is not the expected behavior in Windows. Windows users do things differently and love to expand things to full screen--I don't know why, this is why I say I use Windows, but I'm not a Windows user. My suspicion is that it is a subconcious issue due to the fact that menus are inside the window and thus the target moves unless the window is expanded to full screen (well menus, toolbars, etc etc).

This is why Windows-like switching behaviour never flys too well in the Mac world and I only see such comments when a Windows user (PC Magazine) reviews the Mac OS. (note: Macs switch between applications and documents can be switched within the app. Windows switches between windows regardless of app. Go figure.)

Virus susceptibility on Mac
Common myth: Macs are more secure because they're used less. Very ignorant. The example you use (e-mail viruses) is particularly bad. Macs do not auto-execute any application from any e-mail program, Macs do not have "different extension means executability" like Windows, Macs do not have a flawed security model where you can damage outside your userspace without user input (i.e. on the Mac if the program tries to hack outside your home directory, it pops up a dialog box demanding user input and you have to type an administor login/password).

These are easy things, the last of which comes from Unix, not Mac. This isn't a Mac specific thing, almost any competing OS other than Windows has these features (though Macs may be even slightly more secure than say Linux because the "default off" standard they use). Microsoft is not stupid, they deliberately chose to create such security holes because they valued developer convenience (and desire to push adoption of certain proprietary standards) over your machine's security.

Then they spread the whole FUD to place blame with the statistically-flawed and logically-suspect, We're broken into the most because we're #1 rant. Cry me a river!

Honestly there are probably more Microsoft zealots out there than pApple zealots (more users by 10x at least) so don't you think if they could write a virus they would (the last Mac virus that wasn't an Excel macro virus was around 1997?)? Especially after the prestige of breaking into a widely-regarded security model as Mac OS X?

Or if you do want to continue to spread this B.S. Go sign up for Microsoft MVP and get paid to do it!

Playing iTunes at selected times
Already mentioned before but to add a bit, do a search for "iCal calling iTunes." Windows GUI control is great, good thing they added GUI scripting to Panther.

Take care,
 
Playback Issues on Windows

Hey, i have a loser PC using friend that grabbed itunes and playback is a garbled mess. He is using cable, and it works fine on my macs, but it is an echoey/garbled bunch of crap on his pc. Music match plays fine, so i am taking a serious hit on my pro apple campaign. It appears to be a quicktime problem.

tips?
 
iTunes will support wma when hell thaws out. Why would they give into microsoft of all companies when they are trying to be the leader. Of course this is just an opinion, but, MS is gonna take their first bullet and I'm hoping it's between the eyes. Can't wait for the battle to begin.
 
Re: Re: Re: Hmmm, iSmile

Originally posted by MasterMac
I really wonder why people don't want [X] support in iTunes... I personally would like to see iTunes have support for WMA, Real, Ogg, etc just so I don't have to either A) have other apps do it for me or B) waste my time trying to convert it to MP3 or whatever..

Thing is, wouldn't Apple have to pay a licensing fee to, say, M$ to use a proprietary standard like WMA, etc? I agree with you - it should support everything, in a perfect world, but I don't think they would be able to offer the software for free to windoze users. I could be wrong, but consider that everyone who uses windoze pays m$ for their proprietary standards when they buy a pc or the os, no?
 
Ogg yes. Real yes. But WMA, no. Why? Because iTunes is set to be very popular and it not supporting WMA will hopefully keep people from using WMA. And not only is WMA Microsoft, I don't like how it sounds...
 
Itunes

Would love it if someone figured out the whole sluggishness issue. I have a Mac and PC. My PC is Athlon 2600 1gig ram and Radeon 9700 pro graphics card. Itunes: Love it on my Mac.......is very sluggish on my PC computer. Go figure....All I am running is standard Nortons. Operating System is WinXP Pro.

Oh, and does anyone know how to make Itunes for Windows play movies from the same place you play music files from. I told it to make Quick Time my preferred movie player but when i double click a movie MPG format in my music list it wont open up Quicktime and play it....


Lehr
 
Re: More crud...

Originally posted by tychay
That's not Job's choice in music. I'll go out on a limb and say that there's probably a reason Apple doesn't have an Metallica on iTMS and it has little to do with Jobs.
Metallica has been at the forefront of the anti-Kazaa&Co campaign, and I'll let people make their own mind up about that. But they also refused to be part of the iTMS. I don't know if any other online music store has managed to get them on their books, but I find their decision not to be on iTunes rather, hmm... obtuse.

Oh well...
 
Originally posted by trose
Incase it was burried to fast, and in response to a question I got-

He was using it atfirst for just PC playback etc, but he loved it so much he wen't out and bought an iPod on his lunch break!

Now thats the kind of stuff Apple want's with this store.

I noticed one annoying as hell Window "feature". When trying to import some of my songs from CD... Windows would not take my Moonlight Sonata's, because Moonlight had " " around it. You cant use " in a Windows file name apparently :\

I hope the music store is "fixed" so that none of the track names have " in them!!


You could just remove the " from the song name, then import the song and put them back if they're that important to you. In MusicMatch, the tag keeps the correct characters but they show up as underscores in the filename.

I'm still trying to figure out how to submit bugs to Apple.
 
Re: Playback Issues on Windows

Originally posted by gelbin
Hey, i have a loser PC using friend that grabbed itunes and playback is a garbled mess. He is using cable, and it works fine on my macs, but it is an echoey/garbled bunch of crap on his pc. Music match plays fine, so i am taking a serious hit on my pro apple campaign. It appears to be a quicktime problem.

tips?

Saw this on Slashdot... not sure if applicable.

"be sure to check out your QT settings in the control panel. If the audio out is set to DirectSound, you will probably experience muddy audio clarity. Change it to waveOut and the clarity should be just as good as it is in Winamp. "

arn
 
Re: More crud...

Originally posted by tychay


Bursty CPU
As for the bursty nature of doing a GUI task, the same is true in an Excel resize. CPU cycles hover low and then burst up high when you resize the window or move windows around. Of course the Apple stuff is going to run a bit higher because of OpenGL tacked onto that. What incentive does Microsoft have of encouraging good OpenGL support when they're the market leader with a competing, proprietary standard that they've locked up? Honestly.

DirectX is a part of Windows. Not developing with DirectX is like releasinga Mac app that is not OS X native and requires the use of classic.

Microsoft would be foolish to rely on open source to move OpenGL along at the pace required from Windows multimedia, gaming, and what 3D hardware developers have asked for in DirectX. We'd still be using WinG before that happened. Commercial software may be built from "open" source but it will always be proprietary. Fairplay-AAC is no longer "edit: open" AAC or we'd all be able to easily play purchased music on as many machines as we'd like.

The reason apple probably went with OpenGL is because that's what they have expertise with and for the sake of time. If they had used DirectX, they'd have one foot in the XBox door, the PocketPC door (where Windows Media formats show their stuff), and even smartphones.

DirectX isn't competing with anything. By not using it and creating performance issues, and let's face it Quartzs need a lot of iron to run efficiently on current Macs also, they leave the door open for the millions of PC developers who can easily cop the ease of use of iTunes, extend it with many cool plug-ins and what not, and deliver greater performance through DirectX. Not saying it's going to happen but if Apple had the time, I'm sure they would have made it the "best" Windows app possible. And that would have been using the DirectX libraries.

And please, put Cd-text support on both platforms.
 
Re: Files renamed

Originally posted by ahe

When I import songs into iTunes, they're moved from their original folder and renamed!
Yes, they're re-arranged in a logical form, but after all that time renaming and organizing my files, I don't like to have that effort wasted...

It has probably been mentioned before, but if nobody helped you out yet ...

Just turn the feature off in the preferences -> advanced -> Keep iTunes Folder organized

;-)
 
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