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Who cares is everyone does not like you. If you tried to cater to every person on MR, you would get nothing done.

If anything more threads should be closed. Some tend to linger forever:rolleyes:
 
I too would like to register my support for the mods and the hard (and unpaid) work they do to keep these forums more-or-less sensible.

I hope that bousozoku can be persuaded to stay, even if it's just as a "normal" member.

Mods: keep up the good work.
 
barneygumble said:
I have had a good think about this since this morning and would like to make a few points

1. Being a mod is a thankless job, and considering some of the abuse mud must have recieved this morning i am glad i do not have that responsability. I think members of the forum irrespective of their status needs to thank them for the work they do in keeping this forum as clean and tidy as it is.

2. Many members seem to shall we say abuse a thread and consistently break rules within that thread. Bragging about doing is not a way i would consider endearing myself to a group of moderators, let alone people who give up their time for you, remember that, this forum is so enjoyable becasue of them.

3. If a thread means so much to you, perhaps you should treat it with a little more respect.

4. I have read some abuse dished out to a particular mod on another site and if that is all they have to say, i am glad they have left, and if they haven't well i hope you apologise especially since all the mods made the decision not just one, personal insults of that nature are completly unacceptable

5. Give the mods a break, they deserve it:)

Oh and Bouso take a break, come back in a couple of weeks, we'll miss your helping hand


plus they have to figure in who's politically ok to ban, who's not, who's contributed the $20 and whether or not to ban them and risk them getting mad that they wasted $20. Etc. etc. etc.

Horribly tough job. I mean, probably more serious and tough than say, an EMT. You EMT's out there have nothing on the Mods @ macrumors.com

neither do you teachers or pediatricians.

This place has turned into a whine-fest these days. I was working for a client about a year ago, doing a ton of work. It was tough and the pay was in the middle. I was almost burnt out one day and my client said "if you're not happy doing this, just quit. you'll find something else to do with your time."

So I say this to you:
"if you're not happy doing this, just quit. you'll find something else to do with your time."

i'd surely rather have you taking good photos than complaining about this forum, which really should only be a minute part of any of our lives.
 
I guess this was bousozoku's version of "a respectful goodbye"?

I hope, like Scem0, that you take some time to cool off and then come back. From some of the other mod's comments, it seems, by the tone of their posts, they are all getting a little frustrated.

I appreciate the mods, I really do. They volunteer their time to keep this board enjoyable for all of us and they certainly don't hear thanks enough.
 
BakedBeans said:
Hmmmm, Its not the hardest job in the world, maybe a little perspective wouldnt go a miss?

"my last few months as a mod have been hell", come on! hell? What is it with over reaction around here?

Just because you don't see or hear of all actions taken by a Mod, doesn't mean that they don't get a ration of crap from all corners while just trying to do their job.

bousozoku and the others have a thankless job. It is only when they chose to end their duties do we begin to understand what they do. I count bousozoku as person I respect here. And his efforts are appreciated by me.

Sorry to see that he wants to end his work as a mod.
 
being a moderator or administrator of a site is troublesome at best.

It is always painful especially with members that you respect when you have to take actions with them, and all you get is crap in return.

I have always respoected bousozoku, and i just want him to know that i know what it feels like to be in this position with being a moderator, it is just no fun sometimes, and is a very difficult job.
 
I've been a participant on this forum for a little over a year now, and I have to say it is incredibly well run. Some of that is because the moderators have taken quite well to this (almost) thankless job they have, and some is due to the overall quality of the membership.

bousozoku, and the rest of the mods, I would hope that you don't take the comments of a relatively few disgruntled members as the feelings of the entire group. While many of us may become frustrated at times with things, all in all I'd say we're pretty happy with the way things are run here, or we wouldn't be here.

First and foremost this is a forum for Mac-related stuff. The fact that the mods allow - promote, really - community and political forums is a bonus and a privilege that we shouldn't ignore or take for granted, and I for one appreciate it.

So thank you to the moderators for your efforts here - perhaps it takes a thread like this to remind us that we should be more considerate of others in the future.
 
BakedBeans said:
Hmmmm, Its not the hardest job in the world, maybe a little perspective wouldnt go a miss?

"my last few months as a mod have been hell", come on! hell? What is it with over reaction around here?


well. macrumors is officially at the 7th sign of it's apocaplypse. i agree with nakedbeans from england.

i remember when jaromir jagr from the penguins (nhl team) was quoted as saying he was "dying inside" playing for the pens.
 
liketom said:
EDIT: just had a radical thought - if the threads in question that are doing your head in and every other Mod and God for that matter, then simply just shut down say the Community and Political Thread for a week or two.
Not necessarily a bad idea... although I'd say for a day or two. Emotions seem to have gotten out of hand.

It is unfortunate that it is much easier to write something inflammatory than it is to say it to someone, whereas we tend to react to written text as strongly as spoken words... and they stay written so as to continuously refresh our memory and re-stoke our emotional reactions. And, of course, emoticons aside, it's hard to tell how serious someone is when you can't see them and, in most cases, when you've never even met them.

I've publicly disagreed with the post removal and consolidation "push," which I hope wasn't seen as a contributing factor (unlikely, as I'm on so many "ignore" lists ;)). However, as many have said, I think we all need to (a) realize this is just a forum from the point of view that it shouldn't be taken too seriously, and (b) realize that this is far more than just a forum, from the point of view that, even though it shouldn't be taken too seriously, many of us feel far more at "home" here than perhaps we should, and many things here are taken personally. This is the only forum to which I've ever felt any personal connection.

Maybe we all need to take a short break.

If this were a real relationship, we'd either go have a beer or get to enjoy make-up sex, depending on the relationship. Sadly, we're now left with looking at scratched-nano threads together (well, except for any members who might have hooked up in the real world...). Oh well.
 
edesignuk said:
Sometimes hard to do that when you're being accused of being a fascist homophobe.

Yes, I've noticed certain posters hinting in that direction, though phrased somewhat softer. I can only imagine what might be written in pm's. And how it might influence the pleasure of logging on to MR when your inbox is full of crap like that.

(Calling mods who've tolerated and taken part in the Gay Way thread for half a year homophobic is a joke.)

But don't, though I understand why one do, let it get to you. People who think and express themselves this way should be chucked out without further ado. They are not worth getting stressed about. Especially when there's, literally, thousands of people who appreciate and have great respect for your work here.

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edesignuk said:
Sometimes hard to do that when you're being accused of being a fascist homophobe.
I hope we can lower all these finger pointing a notch though I know my comments count for nuts. Everyone is acting on emotions and impulse now and I know all of us appreciate each and everyone contribution to this forum.

Crap, we really need a good rumor to shake all all of this
 
mcadam said:
Yes, I've noticed certain posters hinting in that direction, though phrased somewhat softer. I can only imagine what might be written in pm's. And how it might influence the pleasure of logging on to MR when your inbox is full of crap like that.

(Calling mods who've tolerated and taken part in the Gay Way thread for half a year homophobic is a joke.)

But don't, though I understand why one do, let it get to you. People who think and express themselves this way should be chucked out without further ado. They are not worth getting stressed about. Especially when there's, literally, thousands of people who appreciate and have great respect for your work here.

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But the mods also have to realize it's part and parcel of the job. If you can't stand the heat...

and sure, is it justified? nope. But then again, it's a POLITICAL job and one needs look no further than our past two presidents to see the suppositions that the general public makes.

if you can take it, you're golden. if you can't, quit!
 
jsw said:
Not necessarily a bad idea... although I'd say for a day or two. Emotions seem to have gotten out of hand.

I'd say that the vast majority of members, lurkers are either uninterested, or uninvolved by this. There are some of us who have been around for a while that keep up with things more closely, and have stronger feelings. I don't think the sentiment is as wide spread as we might imagine, but I'm sure it can be intense and vitriolic among some on both sides.

I don't doubt that there was verbal sparring on the side of some of our gay members, and some less tolerant, both with the mods and with each other. I really don't want to be involved in that, or what went on in PMs. I don't doubt that some here hold an anti gay sentiment, but I don't believe that is the position of the mods.

I'd hate to see some knee jerk reaction by anyone, any side or any party on the board. We are all adults (well most of us), and should be able to coexist in some measure of harmony, agreeing to disagree on some things.

I'd say, time to move on from this... and I would vote to close all involved threads/discussions. Everyone who wanted a say has had the chance, and I think the mods were VERY gracious and lenient in allowing the 'repectful goodbye' thread to stay open this long.

Woof, Woof – Dawg
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Bos, as a mod on another heavily used Mac site (though far more technically centered, as opposed to the free-formity of MR), I appreciate how you're feeling. From time to time, I find that I have to take a break from Modding or otherwise go insane. It'll get better, I promise.
 
jsw said:
If this were a real relationship, we'd either go have a beer or get to enjoy make-up sex, depending on the relationship.

Now imaginary make-up sex with those only known to others by their words and avatars requires a different type of creative firepower. Oh well, the things we do to amuse ourselves. :)
 
Before these threads get shut down I though I would take the time to thank the mods for their valiant efforts to keep these forums a friendly place to visit.

In the past I have had the thankless jobs before (co-running the Mac half of a computer lab in college). Every once in a while you get fed up when a complaint comes in for something that you did, we've all had those days.

Take a break, have a drink or two and vent to someone who will listen and blow off the steam. Come back when you are ready.

Thank you for your efforts.
 
Would it help to close the entire community discussion area for a day or so?

I'm completely for it if it will help allow people to cool their heads and give all of our hard-working mods a respite. Maybe if in attempting to reach the community section there could just be a HUGE announcement stating the amount of 'down time' so that the mods aren't later bombarded w/ hundreds of PMs saying, "I can't get into the community discussion at all!"

Another big thank you to all our MR mods for the hours and work they all put in, thank you!
 
good grief... i step away from the computer for a few hours, and this place goes to heck... :rolleyes:

i appreciate the work that the mods do, it's their site to run as they chose. i don't always agree with them, but i respect them.

all of this uproar over "you know what" seems silly to me, but maybe i just don't understand...

everyone with me now... "kum baaa yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..."
 
Everyone needs to vent but...

This is just short of a child's temper tantrum. Hope you get things worked out.
 
MacDawg said:
Woof, Woof – Dawg
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with so much drama in the LBC, it's kinda hard being mac d-a-w-g


i surely don't think that the moderators on the whole are homophobic.

the rules seem to have been applied a bit... unbalancedly (yeah, that's a word.....)

but to make the jump to saying that mentioning gay issues in any thread will get you banned is more than a bit much.

all in all, it's funny how much drama this is.
 
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