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macmax77 said:
personally , not one of my friends uses the Apple mouse, first thing people tend to do is throw it away and get a 3 or more button mouse

What the hell is wrong with Jobs and this stupidity of a one button mouse?

I suppose that many Apple customers are like me. Have gotten used to using the one button mouse.

I'm looking forward to see what iWorks will include.
 
wdlove said:
I suppose that many Apple customers are like me. Have gotten used to using the one button mouse.

I'm looking forward to see what iWorks will include.

I totally agree. I've always been a Mac user but also used Windows family PC frequently. When I bought my first Mac (after years of using an old 'hand me down'), I planned on buying a nice two-button mouse to go along with it shortly after.

That was nearly two years ago.


Long live the one-button mouse!!! :D
 
GFLPraxis said:
I've thought about it several times, and my conclusion is that it'd be a brilliant move.

They ramp up the price a bit ($50 to $100 over the normal price) and sell it for $250 -$300. No OEM discounts either. They add in their VPC technology...voila. It'd be faster than VPC, they could sell Windows on Macs, and it wouldn't kill VPC sales since some people perfer to be able to use Windows without rebooting.

The only thing they'd need to do is add drivers for mac graphics cards.

You are really over estimating what MS can do, aren't ya?

macmax77 said:
What the hell is wrong with Jobs and this stupidity of a one button mouse?

I like the mouse... and I know someone with a disability (in a wheelchair) who prefers the one-button design so that he can easily click the mouse, instead of having to turn the mouse sideways to use it (horizontal like). And although I'm physically fine, I like the 1 button mouse!
 
The creators of Garageband like the one button mouse A LOT. You can't right click/control-click on ANYTHING in that app - hopefully something that version 2 will bring, since it can get frustrating for those who navigate by their mice.
 
iFaulder said:
Before you all yell at me for saying AppleWorks is buggy you should know my AppleWorks (version 6.2.4) won't even load some days. I have reinstalled it 4 times but still it locks up and won't load. This never happened to me with the older versions.

You should seriously consider updating your AppleWorks to version 6.2.9. Version 6.2.4 is regarded as the buggiest version ever made.

<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120213>

The most common reason for AppleWorks being slow when starting or in use is a full Recent Items folder. If you empty this folder, chances are your AppleWorks performance will improve signficantly. (Reinstalling AppleWorks doesn't delete this folder.)

<http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?128@644.xYbWaWWxHHK.24252@.688fe733>

Cheers.

Dale
 
macmax77 said:
What the hell is wrong with Jobs and this stupidity of a one button mouse?

It's got very little to do with Jobs. The guy who invented the mouse specifically designed it to be a one button device. He'll still argue with you today that you don't need a multi-button mouse, and only poorly designed software causes you to think you do.

Also, have a look around a large business with a wide variety of Windows users - most don't use the opposite button. It's just the 'power users' that do. If you're a power user then you might wisht to buy a 2/3/4/5 button mouse without requiring newbies to struggle with one (no pun intended ;-).

Cheers

Dale
 
Bandit said:
From Macshrine.com:


Sources have confirmed Steve Jobs is to present iWork at Macworld next week. The software is to contain Keynote 2 and a new word processing app called Notes. It is also to carry another app related to Keynote 2. Changes for Keynote include a new 'Media' tab and lots more effects and transitions. Apple Notes is to ship free with all future Macs, including the future headless iMac

I don't know how reliable this site is but it sounds good.

I'd take no notice of this info. It was released after ThinkSecret and AppleInsider had released their info about iWork. As well, there's already a program called Notes on the Mac - Lotus Notes. It's an extremely popular cross platform email/workgroup program made by IBM. Apple would have had to buy the trademark 'Notes' from IBM if it is going to use it.
 
iChan said:
what are the chances of iWork being based on OOo?

No chance. iWork will be aimed at consumers and students, not as a competitor to MS Office. Just look at the other apps with an "i" in their name. iMovie is a basic Final Cut Pro, iTunes is a basic Soundtrack et al, iPhoto is a basic Photoshop.
 
Sir_Giggles said:
You shouldnt be allow to trademark common names like Office, Notes, Pages, etc. I think trademarks only apply to made up names like Microsoft, Apple, Dell, etc.

Yes, that would have stopped Microsoft from trademarking "Bob" about a decade ago. It was a kitsch user interface like a Doring Kindersly title that Microsoft were seriously going to add to Windows!
 
iBoris said:
A good move for Apple would be to include a MySQL GUI and install package all in one.

Except that Apple would have to buy a copy of MySQL for every copy of iWork it sold. (It's not free for commerical use.) They'd be better off using sqlite or PostgreSQL. But it'd have to be an incredibly simple and clever user interface to hide the complexity of these relational databases.
 
Alb said:
Tiger we'll have SQLite in its Core Data FrameWork (http://developer.apple.com/macosx/tiger/).
So the choice is already made. MySQL is included in Panther Server.

The fact that Apple chooses SQLite for coredata does not preclude the use of a more robust db for applications.

Other dbs may be more suitable (and accessible) to scripting languages like php ColdFusion, Perl, etc.

While OS X Server does currently include MySQL, this does not prevent use of other databases.

Apple's decision to use MySQL in Panther Server was made long before either Derby or One$DB were on the scene.

If I were developing an app that involved redistributing a db (and I am, several), I would certainly look elsewhere because of:

1) MySQL's restrictive licensing policies

2) the difficulty (for the end user) of installing and maintaining MySQL compared to Derby or One$DB
 
..So the iWorks suite might be Apples equivelant of Microsoft Works, rather than Office/Word - WP, spreadsheet, database etc? An up to date and better looking version of AppleWorks.
 
Though I'm not entirely in agreement with this analogy, to conclude the same thinking along lines of an imminent release of iWork, a bundled Keynote would be a basic shaft to those who've paid full price for a stand alone app, and haven't had an update since Methusallah was a lad.

dmg_software said:
No chance. iWork will be aimed at consumers and students, not as a competitor to MS Office. Just look at the other apps with an "i" in their name. iMovie is a basic Final Cut Pro, iTunes is a basic Soundtrack et al, iPhoto is a basic Photoshop.
 
MacSA said:
..So the iWorks suite might be Apples equivelant of Microsoft Works, rather than Office/Word - WP, spreadsheet, database etc? An up to date and better looking version of AppleWorks.

I would love to see a basic spreadsheet that would read and write Excel spreadsheets. It doesn't need to be over featured like M$ products. That is the only M$ product I still occasionally use. I'm trying to like OpenOffice, but failing. :(
 
xsedrinam said:
Though I'm not entirely in agreement with this analogy, to conclude the same thinking along lines of an imminent release of iWork, a bundled Keynote would be a basic shaft to those who've paid full price for a stand alone app, and haven't had an update since Methusallah was a lad.

The analogy could've been better. But I don't agree this is "a basic shaft to those who paid full price". Keynote is still at version 1. Anyone who bought into it from the get go would've been expecting to have had to upgrade to version 2 or even 3 by now. So having to pay (hopefully) the same price again but also get a word processor and whatever else is a bargain in my books. For those who bought Keynote more recently, well that's the risk you take when you buy 'old' software when Macworld is upon us.
 
pubwvj said:
I would love to see a basic spreadsheet that would read and write Excel spreadsheets. It doesn't need to be over featured like M$ products. That is the only M$ product I still occasionally use. I'm trying to like OpenOffice, but failing. :(

The interface of openoffice is not so nice so, i would much rather use iWork
Also i am missing wordcount in open office it exists in word or have i just not found it :confused:
 
Maybe I'm getting overexcited about this one, but I'm hoping that this package will be a little more than a tarted up AppleWorks. This (if old rumours are to be believed) has been in the works for up to 4 years and judging by the quality of Keynote 1, there will be a little more to it than a simple works suite. Maybe not the total feature-bloated behemoth that is MS Office, but something that is more than adequate for Home/Academical use. I bought my PB to use at uni and not wanting to go down the MS Office route, as, to be perfectly honest, I wasn't too impressed with the 'Test Drive'. I've been using Mellel, which, good as it is, doesn't offer some of the features that I'd be hoping for (though they're working to get them in). I'm hoping for something better than Mariner Write/Mellel/Nisus Writer, but perhaps not as many features as Word (Although a better, more intuitive interface!)

Damn I've got too much time on my hands to get this concerned about a word-processor. Hmm
 
Does anyone think that personal finance software would fit perfectly in this suite? It seems that Quicken could use some competition.
 
patseguin said:
Does anyone think that personal finance software would fit perfectly in this suite? It seems that Quicken could use some competition.

I think it would take too much work to develop such a program, at least one that had hooks to your various financial accounts- bank, credit cards, investments, etc.

Any kind of financial management program that could not import/export such data would be a non-starter.
 
madmaxmedia said:
I think it would take too much work to develop such a program, at least one that had hooks to your various financial accounts- bank, credit cards, investments, etc.

Any kind of financial management program that could not import/export such data would be a non-starter.

I imagine that it would be very difficult to come up with a program that does all that Quicken can. From all of the reviews done by MacWorld yearly, Intuit could definitely use some competition. I would also expect it do do all that Quicken currently has available. If anyone could accomplish this it would be Apple.
 
I read on TS that imovie will be "imovie HD"...if this is true..... do you think FCE will get an upgrade to HD..... The only thing i would see is there would be no point in going to FCP HD.... just get express....
 
puckhead193 said:
I read on TS that imovie will be "imovie HD"...if this is true..... do you think FCE will get an upgrade to HD..... The only thing i would see is there would be no point in going to FCP HD.... just get express....
Nice

But apple would not make the base app better than their $299 app becsaue then "nobody" would buy it anymore, but if it happens I am glad :D
 
notes = ?

It just dawned on me. It is so obvious. Notes will be Abi Word, but obviously tweaked and probably with an XML native file format. What other open source word processor has made as many strides to OSX recently? And why, after 2 years of only an xwin implementation, did Abi suddenly go native, then Aqua menus, all within a short period. I think this is a slam dunk. I can only hope so, I think Abi is a fine piece of work with a very nice and simple interface.

Gnumeric for a spreadsheet anyone
 
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