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iWork '05 Productivity Suite?
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especially when the bios doesn't require a specific keyboard detection like windows doesmms said:
I wonder if we have conflicting reports or if both reports are correct and Pages and Notes are both part of iWork '05. If so, I'd guess that Pages is for pagelayout and Notes is for word processing and hope that they are very well integrated.
Don't you think IBM might be a bit annoyed about Notes? Isn't thati their main email product? Unles only 'lotus notes' is the trademark and not just 'notes'
pubwvj said:
2 is ridiculous. Even if they recompiled Windows XP to run on PowerPC processors (it could be done), Windows-based PROGRAMS would not run because they'd be compiled for the x86 processor. So you'd be unable to run any Windoze programs whatsoever.
It's an impossibility as you put it, simple as that. They could integrate VPC into it, and since Windows would run natively and only programs would run through emulation it would be faster than VPC normally would, but still slow.
And theres still no way Apple would put that in their computers. MS might make something like that some day and SELL it, but not give it free with Macs.
The best I can see is in the distant future Apple teams up with the DarWine project, adds the Win32 API and a homebrew emulator on top of that to OS X to run Windows programs in Mac OS X out of the box. But even thats unlikely.
GFLPraxis said:
I speculated that MS may do something like this in the semi-near future (2006ish?) after the XBox Next is released... if they keep up the trend of using a modified Windows kernel on the Xbox (which I assume they will, for a variety of reasons) then they will have to get the kernel, or at least parts of it, optimized and compiled for PPC (XBox Next will be using a PPC CPU). If you combine this PPC native kernel, along with some other PPC native optimizations along with always improving emulation and faster Macs, the future versions of VPC are looking pretty good...
I am guessing that MS may do this with an XP based kernel after Longhorn is released, as to have some disctiction between the two, and there's not any real reason for them not too... big money maker using the last gen software.
Wanted to speculate that iWorks will have a cut down version of Keynote 2, and that you will have to pay for extra transitions, etc (Jam Packs style?), and that the other two apps will be a word proccessor and a page layout/web authouring type page.
I think that they will axe the spreadsheet in AppleWorks, in a backdor deal with MS to sell more copies of Excel! Which is sad, as, imo, spreadsheet apps are the only thing that there are not acceptable alternatives from the opensource community or from cheap shareware software at least.
Anyways, as long as the new word processor has some better templates and what not for day to day type stuff, like resumes, etc, it will be a big improvement. If the web design/page layout application has good site management features and an easy to use uploader then it will be a big deal, imo, esp if it has some sort of iBlog feature incorporated (as long as it's not .Mac only! blech).
Rob
I think that they will axe the spreadsheet in AppleWorks, in a backdor deal with MS to sell more copies of Excel! Which is sad, as, imo, spreadsheet apps are the only thing that there are not acceptable alternatives from the opensource community or from cheap shareware software at least.
Anyways, as long as the new word processor has some better templates and what not for day to day type stuff, like resumes, etc, it will be a big improvement. If the web design/page layout application has good site management features and an easy to use uploader then it will be a big deal, imo, esp if it has some sort of iBlog feature incorporated (as long as it's not .Mac only! blech).
Rob
SeaFox said:
Now THAT is a great poll!
Personally I think Michael Jackson will get his original nose back before any of those other things happen. But it's all good.
ViaVoice is inefficient since it hasn't been updated to take advantage of the G5 and the current G4 struggles to keep up with dictation at a natural speed for most people. Rapid speech with some background noise will cause accuracy to be terrible. Anything below even 95% accuracy isn't very useful since much of your time will be spent on corrections. It would be nice to have a new speech dictation engine optimized to take advantage of modern hardware.
A cell phone could be a useful tool for dictation either combined with a voice modem to call in to your computer or as a voice recorder for delayed transfer to your computer via bluetooth or attached cable.
As for Notes - it would be confused with Lotus Notes wouldn't it?
A cell phone could be a useful tool for dictation either combined with a voice modem to call in to your computer or as a voice recorder for delayed transfer to your computer via bluetooth or attached cable.
As for Notes - it would be confused with Lotus Notes wouldn't it?
freiheit said:Now THAT is a great poll!
The only debatable one is two buttoned Apple mouse vs Longhorn.
With the time it's taking LH, we're almost 100% sure to get the others by the time it gets here.
mrgreen4242 said:
I've thought about it several times, and my conclusion is that it'd be a brilliant move.
They ramp up the price a bit ($50 to $100 over the normal price) and sell it for $250 -$300. No OEM discounts either. They add in their VPC technology...voila. It'd be faster than VPC, they could sell Windows on Macs, and it wouldn't kill VPC sales since some people perfer to be able to use Windows without rebooting.
The only thing they'd need to do is add drivers for mac graphics cards.
Never Again
it's nicer and more Mac-like, I agree. but Apple will never name anything "MacXyz" ever again. they are moving away from "Mac"-ness slowly but surely into a more professional and stylish direction, and they have been for some time. draggin all of us along with them: iThis iThat xSeven xEight, Keynote, Tiger...anything but MacAnything.
"clever girl." -hunter from Jurrassic park right before being attacked by the velociraptor he did not see coming.
(don't take me too seriously, peoples...hehe.)
BornAgainMac said:
it's nicer and more Mac-like, I agree. but Apple will never name anything "MacXyz" ever again. they are moving away from "Mac"-ness slowly but surely into a more professional and stylish direction, and they have been for some time. draggin all of us along with them: iThis iThat xSeven xEight, Keynote, Tiger...anything but MacAnything.
"clever girl." -hunter from Jurrassic park right before being attacked by the velociraptor he did not see coming.
(don't take me too seriously, peoples...hehe.)
Pages=Webpage design?
I was thinking that there is no application either from third parties or apple for easy webpage design a la Frontpage which by the way is awful. This is the app that I have been hoping for rather then a page layout program which I don't think would have the same audience. If pages is a webpage design program it would be great if it integrated with the innate ability of os x to host websites and finally really put the sites folder on many peoples machines to work. So if the suite includes pages (webdesign for the rest of us as dreamweaver and other pro apps have a steep learning curve) notes for word processing and keynote and possibly a spreadsheet it would be on kick ass suite that I would pick up in a heartbeat!
I was thinking that there is no application either from third parties or apple for easy webpage design a la Frontpage which by the way is awful
. This is the app that I have been hoping for rather then a page layout program which I don't think would have the same audience. If pages is a webpage design program it would be great if it integrated with the innate ability of os x to host websites and finally really put the sites folder on many peoples machines to work. So if the suite includes pages (webdesign for the rest of us as dreamweaver and other pro apps have a steep learning curve) notes for word processing and keynote and possibly a spreadsheet it would be on kick ass suite that I would pick up in a heartbeat!
iGuttenberg - homage to the first printing press that revolutionized the printed word.
iScribe works.
iWorks Suite works.
iScribe works.
iWorks Suite works.
No way that "Notes" is a product name
I think that IBM would be a bit more than annoyed about Apple stealing the name of their premier messaging product (one which they have dutifully kept on the Mac OS X platform as well!). Perhaps there is some confusion here and a new Apple productivity suite has integration with IBM/Lotus Notes for the corporate market? Given that IBM is getting out of the PC business and that most new Macs have IBM chips in them, maybe there is some new cooperation here to make a push in the corporate market.
Another thought is that "Notes" was somehow injected in to the mix as a part of some new server initiative from Apple and IBM. Maybe IBM ported Domino (the Notes server component) to Mac OS X to coincide with the xServe announcements rumored for today?
Trekkie said:
I think that IBM would be a bit more than annoyed about Apple stealing the name of their premier messaging product (one which they have dutifully kept on the Mac OS X platform as well!). Perhaps there is some confusion here and a new Apple productivity suite has integration with IBM/Lotus Notes for the corporate market? Given that IBM is getting out of the PC business and that most new Macs have IBM chips in them, maybe there is some new cooperation here to make a push in the corporate market.
Another thought is that "Notes" was somehow injected in to the mix as a part of some new server initiative from Apple and IBM. Maybe IBM ported Domino (the Notes server component) to Mac OS X to coincide with the xServe announcements rumored for today?
You shouldnt be allow to trademark common names like Office, Notes, Pages, etc. I think trademarks only apply to made up names like Microsoft, Apple, Dell, etc.
Interesting that you think Apple, a type of fruit, and dell, a topographical feature, are made up names that should be allowed to be trademarked.
Remember about a year ago, a Sun exec said Apple licensed StarOffice to port it to OSX, and then he quickly retracted the comment?
Maybe it was true. If iWork has the basis of StarOffice with Apple spending over a year tweaking it and cleaning up the UI, iWork could be one fantastic MSOffice competitor. Especially if you factor in Filemaker and Keynote for two of the modules.
I really hope Apple is going for broke with iWork. And if Pages ends up being a consumer friendly web page designer, that will be beyond amazing.
Maybe the suite will look like this:
Word Processor -- New
Spreadsheet -- New
Presentation Software -- Keynote
Web Page Publisher -- New
Most consumers don't need a db, and this will keep MS (marginally) happy since it is not a complete competitor for the corporate Office market. More of a consumer offering.
Anyway, my happiness meter will be at a 8 with a great Keynote update. I'll be at 10 with a professional quality word processor. And a "this one goes to 11" if they release a "web site designer for the rest of us."
Maybe it was true. If iWork has the basis of StarOffice with Apple spending over a year tweaking it and cleaning up the UI, iWork could be one fantastic MSOffice competitor. Especially if you factor in Filemaker and Keynote for two of the modules.
I really hope Apple is going for broke with iWork. And if Pages ends up being a consumer friendly web page designer, that will be beyond amazing.
Maybe the suite will look like this:
Word Processor -- New
Spreadsheet -- New
Presentation Software -- Keynote
Web Page Publisher -- New
Most consumers don't need a db, and this will keep MS (marginally) happy since it is not a complete competitor for the corporate Office market. More of a consumer offering.
Anyway, my happiness meter will be at a 8 with a great Keynote update. I'll be at 10 with a professional quality word processor. And a "this one goes to 11" if they release a "web site designer for the rest of us."