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iWork '08 Introduced

This is great - iWork finally has a spreadsheet app. I will now have to think very carefully about getting MSOffice on my computer for uni. At the moment i think it would be much better to have iWork and OpenOffice or NeoOffice!
 
Education Serial Number Pricing

Has anyone been able to purchase the serial number for $49? I tried using this method, selecting the appropriate education radio button (I'm a secondary ed teacher), but, when I checked my cart it showed the serial number cost $71. I thought it had just added the boxed version by mistake, but it truly was the serial number for $71 -- see below.

chrisgeleven said:
Just noticed something for you education users.

If you open up the iWork Trial and click on Buy then 'Buy Serial Number', you are brought to a page where you can just get a download version of iWork for $49 if you have a education discount.

I can't find a similar option for iLife '08, but it seems like this will help out some of you.
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axisdrama said:
Has anyone been able to purchase the serial number for $49? I tried using this method, selecting the appropriate education radio button (I'm a secondary ed teacher), but, when I checked my cart it showed the serial number cost $71. I thought it had just added the boxed version by mistake, but it truly was the serial number for $71 -- see below.
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the $49 is probably something from iWork 06 that hasn't been updated or something. i'd jump on that tonight, but $71 i'm not completely sold on yet. i want to replace office 2004, but my english profs all want word docs. i've just started testing to make sure it's 100% compatible (pages lets you export to a word doc) but i'm just not sure it's the way i want to go. the alternative is to keep office 2004 (which drags) or wait for the new office and pay twice as much.

edit: or maybe it's just lagging behind. when i tried to buy the $49 serial number edition it also went into my cart for $71. maybe i'll give it another try tomorrow.

kddpop said:
the general rule is that the stores don't offer the edu discount on software...only hardware.

if the manager at your store does differently, you are blessed! have you purchased software at the store with the edu discount?

~kyle
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i bought office 2004, but i guess the discount for that is built in (student and teacher edition). i believe that's it as far as i can remember. i'll have to call ahead when leopard is released.
 
Wow.

I haven't been able to digest all of the changes, but I am very impressed so far.

I bought a copy the moment it was released. If it is fast and not buggy, I will upgrade my firm.
 
Numbers looks interesting, I spent a few minutes with the trial last night. Appears to be no Applescript dictionary for it though, hopefully this will come in the next version. Some form of scripting would be good!
 
Nice job Apple

Downloaded the trial and VERY impressed so far. Numbers appears to be a real winner. This could spell the end of my road w/ MS Office.... hot damn.

Thank you Senor Jobs!

P.S. - to the "student" who claims the kit is "too expensive"... what exactly are you comparing it to?!?

(...and what exactly are you SMOKING? :D)
 
I'm more of a NeoOffice user (possibly for not much longer), but from what I can tell there's also a new Proofreader section in the contextual menu. Makes recommendations on common grammatical mistakes and such. I haven't seen this referenced as a new feature on Apple's site.

The only thing that bothers me about all of the programs in the iWork suite are that they all use Apple proprietary file formats and don't open/save other formats natively (i.e. without using the export menu). I have this thing with vendor lock-in. But then again, I am using an Apple along with all of the benefits that iLife provides... sometimes polished functionality comes with drawbacks I guess.

Still wish Apple would have gone the ODF route. (I'm sure part of my rub here is that not too long ago I batch converted all of my .doc files to .odt files)

Anyone else out there have concerns about saving your files in a .pages format and/or instant portability to other platforms?
 
I dont know if there is something wrong with my Mac but Numbers is running SO SLOW! Every time I try to scroll down the list or re-format some cells I hear the fans on my G5 go into overdrive and get the beach ball spinning for ages. It took Numbers 3 minutes to open a large Excel file. It tool Excel just 30 seconds to open the same file! I wont be dumping Microsoft Office just yet!!
 
Virgil-TB2 said:
I am disappointed in this myself. Pages is okay for basic stuff but as a writer I need real word processing.

I am especially miffed that they *say* they have added a word processing mode, when in fact they don't seem to have done that at all. I find this a bit deceptive.

If you look carefully at the tutorial, you can see that their idea of a word processing mode is simply to add page layout templates that conform to tasks that are usually done with a word processor. The "section breaks" are not section breaks but new template insertions, and if you hit the return key you won't get a new line, you will just confirm your changes on that template.

This ****** up mixing of page layout tools and word processing tools is exactly what makes MS Word so unwieldy and bug-ridden. A lot of folks don't *want* to "click anywhere to begin" or base everything off of some tasteless pink bordered template. (I am talking about Word templates there), and those that do generally prefer it to be the default. Page layout and Word processing are different things; different metaphors for accomplishing the task. They don't mix well in Word and while I am sure Apple does it better, it's still not what most serious writers will want. I, (and a lot of people I would wager), want to use a word processor for most of my documents, not a PageMaker 3.0 clone.

I find it disturbing that Apple is now getting actively deceptive in their practices and advertisements. I haven't tried it yet, but it seems to me that there is *not* a word processor mode in Pages.
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I agree. A word processor should be just that - something for processing words. Pages is trying to be a DTP program and fails miserably at it. Ditto Word. I'd love to see a word processor for people who write for a living (please don't say Nisus).
 
kepardue said:
Still wish Apple would have gone the ODF route. (I'm sure part of my rub here is that not too long ago I batch converted all of my .doc files to .odt files)

Anyone else out there have concerns about saving your files in a .pages format and/or instant portability to other platforms?
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Same here, converting my stuff to ODF more and more. I've wished the new iWorks to be able to import/export ODF files as well. Hopefully Leopard will deliver ODF support (TextEdit...) in a way that can be used for any application.

I like Numbers though.
 
Office formats?

Does anyone know if Numbers will open all .XLS formats? Or only the new new Office '07 XML formats? Trouble is, no one that I work with has actually purchased Office '07, they are all using 2000 and XP.
 
I would not be in too much of a hurry to delete iWork '06, if you have it. The trial '08 download is only 460MB and supposedly identical to the boxed product. iWork '06 came on a DVD and was about a Gig and a half judging from the trial version on my MBP. It looks like there are far fewer templates included with Keynote this time round.

Comparing the two: Keynote '06 installed = 1.07GB, Keynote '08 installed =282MB. The Tour '08 application in the Application Support folder is half the size of Tour '06.
 
weckart said:
I would not be in too much of a hurry to delete iWork '06, if you have it. The trial '08 download is only 460MB and supposedly identical to the boxed product. iWork '06 came on a DVD and was about a Gig and a half judging from the trial version on my MBP. It looks like there are far fewer templates included with Keynote this time round.

Comparing the two: Keynote '06 installed = 1.07GB, Keynote '08 installed =282MB. The Tour '08 application in the Application Support folder is half the size of Tour '06.
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There are more themes in Keynote 08. The difference is that Apple appears to have found a way to significantly reduce their file size. Perhaps due to ImageKit being installed pre Leopard?

As an example:

'06 Modern Portfolio - 1920x1080 = 51MB
'08 Modern Portfolio - 1920x1080 = 580KB
 
aquafina said:
Does anyone know if Numbers will open all .XLS formats? Or only the new new Office '07 XML formats? Trouble is, no one that I work with has actually purchased Office '07, they are all using 2000 and XP.
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I was able to open a few Office 2004 .xls sheets with Numbers. Some had problems (particularly charts), but nothing unreasonable.
 
Nuc said:
Still no equation editor! That sucks.
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You already have an equation editor. Look in your Utilities folder for an app called Grapher. It makes beautiful equations that you just copy and paste into Keynote or Pages.
 
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