I was sort-of disappointed to discover that the iCloud version of Keynote doesn't support object animations, which is a bit of a bummer if you ask me. I guess that functionality will eventually be possible?
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iWork for iOS and Mac Updated, Keynote Gains New Transitions
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Fair enough. I'm not sure that Apple has said anything still, at least not about what happens to existing documents when iWork '13 is installed, or how to prevent it. They certainly haven't provided us with a way to make iWork '09 and '13 coexist on the same Mac without the destruction of documents. We are still on our own with respect to this issue. All Apple has done to my knowledge is held out the hope that maybe, some day, iWork will be as fully-featured as it was four years ago.
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Note that the Apple publicity said:
"Customize the toolbar with your most important tools"
'Most important' is entirely subjective and there are many tools that cannot be placed on the toolbar, including one that I frequently use. MS Word is far more adaptive to the requirements of users (too bad Apple can't beat the competition in this regard).
Pages now relies on the clumsy 'format' tool, clumsy because it requires extra click to use and disuse.
The format tool shrinks what I'm working on and one has to click again to disappear it.
Clumsy design still reigns, but the application is much easier to use than the intitial release.
Note that the Apple publicity said:
"Customize the toolbar with your most important tools"
'Most important' is entirely subjective and there are many tools that cannot be placed on the toolbar, including one that I frequently use. MS Word is far more adaptive to the requirements of users (too bad Apple can't beat the competition in this regard).
Pages now relies on the clumsy 'format' tool, clumsy because it requires extra click to use and disuse.
The format tool shrinks what I'm working on and one has to click again to disappear it.
Clumsy design still reigns, but the application is much easier to use than the intitial release.
If they are starting the updates this quickly wouldn't it have made more sense to release a finished product? Updates re-introducing old/new features doesn't make sense to me. Was anyone really clamoring for a redesign of the iWork suite so badly that releasing an unfinished product was necessary?
It's their product and they know way more than I do about it.
Just an outside-in observation.
First of all, you can still use the old versions. Secondly, yes, a lot of people have been VERY irritated that the iOS, iCloud and Mac versions' file formats were not compatible. It really was quite annoying.
Not half as annoying as having documents annihilated the moment you open them.
You are just going to have to trust me on that.
As I stated in the other thread...
This is how the updates are going to come out. Once key features are tested and ensured to work across all platforms - they will be rolled out in multiple rolling releases.
This is a good sign - because Apple is obviously investing in the platform.
I look forward to future updates.
This is how the updates are going to come out. Once key features are tested and ensured to work across all platforms - they will be rolled out in multiple rolling releases.
This is a good sign - because Apple is obviously investing in the platform.
I look forward to future updates.
Maybe one day they will actually add the ability to open a document which is password protected. Always seem to forget the simple things.
I'm not having any problem with opening documents that are password protected. The only place you can't open them is on iwork on iCloud webpage.
Oh FFS. Have you ever completely re-written software from scratch.
This wasn't just Apple saying oh we'll make the same code look different then deliberately remove features. This was a complete rewrite from the ground up. It'll take time because just copying and pasting code from the old versions won't work. If it did, those features would've been in from day one.
Exactly. And the fullscreen mode is a complete abomination as well. I loved the dark interface, the freedom and the ability to put two pages side to side, the word indicator, the bar at the top.
Hard work? You must be kidding.
Apple leaves iWork dormant for almost five years, and when they finally release a new version, it has less features than the previous one. In those almost five years, they could have completely re-written iWork and included all the features again and many more. Meanwhile, it sits on a pile of almost US$ 150 billion in cash, which is certainly not being spent on the development of products, especially iWork.
I haven't had the chance in diving into iWork '13, was weary from the comments after its first release.
What's the general consensus now? Has this update been significant enough that it's as feature driven as '09? I don't want to risk opening documents in the new versions if it modifies them and the app's aren't as useful - even with backups.
Thanks!
What's the general consensus now? Has this update been significant enough that it's as feature driven as '09? I don't want to risk opening documents in the new versions if it modifies them and the app's aren't as useful - even with backups.
Thanks!
No, I'm not freaking kidding. Are you? They did a complete overhaul of the whole suite just like they did with Final Cut, which according to my friends are are directors that have recently graduated, said was worth it. I'm not going to expect it to be perfect when they rewrote the entire program from the ground up. If anything, I'm disappointed in Mavericks and iOS 7. You say they could have included all the features from the beginning, but you just show your lack of knowledge about the subject. Before you post, learn something.
There's that old chestnut again - "From the Ground up". People love saying that, don't they?
As if it suggests that the whole IDEA has had to be re-thought, re-imagined.
Listen: Technically every *NEW Idea* is "From the Ground up", but iWork wasn't a new idea. In the case of say, an iPad, the new design can be described as from the ground up because it achieves the same result (but better) with new technology and new design. The Mac Pro is a great example of re-designing something from the ground up.
Re-designing and re-issuing software with reduced functionality and terribly thought out workflow, along with glaring omissions of tools when compared to a feature rich previous version (in this case iWork 09) is not design to be proud of. In this case "building on the already positive strengths of the software we're replacing" would have been a better and more intelligent approach.
"From the Ground Up" only implies newly thought out ideas, which in this particular case suck. (Don't worry, kids - it's alright to say that about your favourite company - they can't hurt you). If it implies "we had to completely re-program the core fundamentals of how this can work" then that's fine, but today the iWork suite isn't ready.
A better statement would be "They re-wrote the entire program and made the decision to release it unfinished and in the process we've broken how you can access your workflow at least for the time being".
And your director friends who have recently graduated may need to ask some professional users who relied on FCP for their livelihoods what REALLY happened when FCPX was released. It's a bit of a horror story tbh, but may help you to understand that when you fall for marketing fluff telling you that this is from the ground up, what you're really being told is "Please test this software for us because we can't work out what's wrong with it and we're a bit stumped".
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to be part of a BETA test program, just don't tell me it's otherwise.
Do some research before you declare someone else's lack of knowledge, and save yourself some embarrassment.
I am able to see at least 4 page on my 13" MacBook Pro. along the left side of m document are thumbnails of the pages in my document. I click on a page and the page is displayed in the center pane so I can work on it. If I scroll the center pane the pages scroll along as well.
iWork is a complete rewrite of the programs in 64 bit. They were redone so that the iOS and Mac versions could essentially use the same file format. Since the change my documents appear exactly the same (with the exception of an occasional unsupported font in iOS) on my iPad, iPhone and Mac. I can make changes on either device and it automagically changes on the other devices. It makes MY workflow so much easier.
YES, some features were left out. It could be that they had a deadline to get this out. They looked at the features and determined what was most important and went from there. As updates come out those features may be added in. In the long run the apps will be better and your workflow will be better.
Sometimes you need to take a few steps back in order to go forward. Personally I am finding myself to be more productive with the newer versions and they are, in my opinion, even easier to use.
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All software is BETA by nature, that's why it is always updated to fix bugs or change features. If it was perfect from the release date there would be no reason to change or update it.
Of course, you need the latest OS for this. I have opted to not upgrade the OS as I can not see any positive reason to do so. Last time I upgraded to 10.8.5 (whatever animal that is), I had to upgrade a few different paid software titles because they did not run in the new OS.
I haven't had the chance in diving into iWork '13, was weary from the comments after its first release.
What's the general consensus now? Has this update been significant enough that it's as feature driven as '09? I don't want to risk opening documents in the new versions if it modifies them and the app's aren't as useful - even with backups.
Thanks!
A minor update, with many key features still MIA. This is not a significant change.
No reason to believe that any given important feature will return at any particular time, or any time at all, since Apple hasn't actually committed to anything that specific.