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1: There are other methods of downloading legit apps (such as beta apps that a developer hands to testers, as well as enterprise apps) that Installous isn't needed.

2: If a developer wants to get an app in the jailbroken iPhone ecosystem, he or she would do it as a Cydia package.

3: If you have legit apps that are not available anymore in the market (or backlevel versions), you can copy the uncracked ipa files to another authorized machine and they should work.

4: If one wants to write code for the iPhone and can't afford a developer key, there are ways to do so with temporary keys.

So, with all the legit reasons covered, the only reason someone would bother with this utility is copyright infringement.

It isn't like an app is $2000, (although I'm not condoning piracy of applications). Are people so cheap that they can't pay the cost of one can of PBR, to support the App Store ecosystem?

Just remember, when Apple starts releasing iPhones that take so long to JB/UL that the next model is already out when something does appear, you can thank the app pirates for this.
 
I've never used installous before but doesn't it let you download files straight into your iPhone? I mean there must be some good uses for that feature not just for pirating right?

It lets you download IPAs straight to your phone. I don't think their download manager supports any other files. Thus, useless unless you're a pirate.
 
I'd like to see how they'd react if another installeous was put up on Cydia to allow pirating of apps on the Cydia store..
 
I'm sure Saurik could block warez repos via Cydia if he wanted to...

But I believe he said that he didn't want to because doing so would make him liable to block all "bad" sources as well.

I'd like to see how they'd react if another installeous was put up on Cydia to allow pirating of apps on the Cydia store..

You wouldn't need another Install0us. There are Cydia sources out there whose sole purpose is to host cracked Cydia apps.
 
But I believe he said that he didn't want to because doing so would make him liable to block all "bad" sources as well.



You wouldn't need another Install0us. There are Cydia sources out there whose sole purpose is to host cracked Cydia apps.

Well then.. lol
 
If they decide to block piracy then others will find a way to open it up. It has always been a cat and mouse game and there are better ways to allocate resources than trying to combat it.
 
I really like the idea of a JB that does not allow circumventing app DRM. Not because of some moral judgment or ethical stance, but not for more pragmatic reasons.
As the proprietors of the App Store, Apple has an obligation to shareholders and developers to limit piracy. Since JB is the key to piracy on iOS, Apple is forced to take a very aggressive stance towards preventing JB.
However, if the JB did not circumvent app DRM, Apple may back off a bit and allow devices to stay a bit more open.
 
I highly doubt that Apple will back off even if piracy wasnt an issue any more.
I think people JB to customize, unlock their phone and go around Apples and AT&T's limitations not to mainly get free apps.


As the proprietors of the App Store, Apple has an obligation to shareholders and developers to limit piracy. Since JB is the key to piracy on iOS, Apple is forced to take a very aggressive stance towards preventing JB.
However, if the JB did not circumvent app DRM, Apple may back off a bit and allow devices to stay a bit more open.
 
I highly doubt that Apple will back off even if piracy wasnt an issue any more.
I think people JB to customize, unlock their phone and go around Apples and AT&T's limitations not to mainly get free apps.

I'm not speculating on the percentages of people using JB to pirate apps, rather that piracy is the reason Apple tries so hard to stop it. Apple has never cared about locking down devices in the past and there is little financial reason for them to do so (outside of piracy).
Look at the original AppleTV. It was hacked early on and Apple never took explicit steps to secure those holes. I feel that the key difference is that a hacked AppleTV could not play DRM videos.
Why do you feel Apple would continue to fight JB if their business model was no longer threatened?
 
You would be seriously wrong!! Many of the guys on the team sell applications.

Yes I was wrong to imply all those people would not care, in fairness it would be best to say I feel some don’t care.

Seems like most people beating the 'pirates suck drum' here act like they've never done anything illegal online. Its there if you choose to use it, if not then you come on here and act almighty. I love installous, they put in a lot of effort.

Personally I don’t care what people use on their iPhone. If programmers don’t want there applications pirated they need to do a better job of securing their apps.
 
Apple has never cared about locking down devices in the past and there is little financial reason for them to do so (outside of piracy).

Their other interest would be keeping the device secure. I would think it would make it harder for Apple to pitch iPhones as a good enterprise device when jailbreaking becomes so simple (e.g. jailbreakme.com). Corporate IT tends to like things locked down.
 
Their other interest would be keeping the device secure. I would think it would make it harder for Apple to pitch iPhones as a good enterprise device when jailbreaking becomes so simple (e.g. jailbreakme.com). Corporate IT tends to like things locked down.

jailbreakme.com was an exception. They had to patch that ASAP because it was accomplished via a serious exploit in the PDF code. These types of exploits will always be reacted to quickly because they put the user at risk.

I'm certainly not suggesting that Apple will provide unfettered access to the OS, simply that jumping on and crushing every JB exploit becomes a lower priority. hopefully to the extent that they may not be patched between every release.
 
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