Considering JAMF is an Apple-only company, I think their results might be a little skewed & biased.
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Jamf Survey Suggests Employees Using Macs See Higher Productivity, Creativity, and Collaboration
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I had this yesterday where I had 7 ppt presentations open on my work pc -using the find command on each to find a word. On Mac it searches the text in documents, in spotlight. This has been on Mac OS since Snow Leopard. It’s night and day how more refined and productive macOS is, and Microsoft doesn’t seem to care.
I was on the same page but over the last 1.5 years Apple has really gotten back into the hardware game with the new MacMini, New MacBookAirs, beefy MacBookPros (8cores, 32gbRAM), introduction of of the iMac Pros (18cores, 128gb RAM) and even very competitive new iMacs, and now finally new MacPros. Hell even the new iPad Pro and Apple Watch redesigns have been huge improvements. We're even seeing too many MacBookPro refreshes lately.
I have to say Apple really has been turning it around hardware wise recently. I still want Nvidia support but that is more on Nvidia supporting Metal than anything else.
One of my main clients is also a Mac and PC business. The arts department is all Mac's. Are they productive? Yes. Could they accomplish the same on a Windows PC? Since they mainly use Adobe CC, I would say they could be even MORE productive with new, faster Windows PC's compared to their aging Mac Pros. They don't have the budget to spend $10000 per employee on a new cheese-grater Mac Pro.
The accounting department uses Windows, as does the media department. Are they productive? Yes. I don't think the accounting department could do what they need on a Mac due to lack of compatible software. Media dept mostly used web so they could go either way.
I agree with your assessment -- depends on the users and what they do.
Yes. Perhaps you‘re using it wrong.Engineering with a Mac?
Really?
I had to buy a refurbished Windows laptop just to get through the EMC class for the graduate course.
LTSpice, Eagle, KiCAD and many more available for Mac.
Others run very good under i.e. Parallels Desktop (or even Wine!).
We run a complete engineering company here exclusively with Macs. Not one WinTel machine here.
No, absolutely not.
The future of the enterprise is ... [gasp]... AppleWatch and AppleGlass tether-less from iPhone. This according to "who needs a personal computer" acolytes in here. /s
[More seriously, "Apple enterprise" are just fighting words to an all-enterprise Microsoft IT tightly wound around Active Directory. This is what I see and experience.]
I had never been as productive on PC as on a Mac. This’s why I switched entirely and never look back.
My income from my works from Mac also are much more than I got from Windows PC.
Exactly. A self selected group of users reply to a survey done by the manaufacturer and a reseller of enterprise solutions and the results show their choice is a better choice. And the major reason for chosing a Mac was,in most cases, " I liek Apple products"
I like Apple's products as well but thims survey revealed nothing beyond you can get any results you want if you survey the right subsection of the population.
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The survey reveals a bias amongst people - we believe something does X, and those conclude that it actually does even if we have no evidence or there is evidence to the contrary.
If someone were to ask me if a Mac makes me more productive I would answer yes; but that is my subjective assessment that lacks any data to confirm my conclusion.
Sounds like your not plugged into the business end of things. The general public makes the mistake of only comparing the initial outlay, but there are many costs associated with computers, cell phones, etc., and experience and studies by companies like IMB, Oracle, etc., show that costs are cheaper are both large and small companies in an Apple environment. The reason is buying a cheaper piece of hardware costs much more in shorter replacement cycles, more repairs, and in much higher support costs, not to mention less productivity in many settings. It turns out that it is actually less expensive usually to have Macs. Here's one example by a neutral company, IBM, that caused them to switch over to Apple products.
https://www.computerworld.com/artic...-are-even-cheaper-to-run-than-it-thought.html
It's the same reason why consumers who buy Apple products usually save more money than those buying Android phones and PC's. Not only do you usually get a much better experience, and have much better privacy and security, but you'll have a product that doesn't need to be replaced as quickly, is usually more reliable and doesn't require anywhere near the same level of support, AND when you do decide to upgrade, will have a vastly higher trade in/resale value.
In short, if you want to save money, buy Apple products.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...e-dropped-twice-as-fast-as-iphone-x-this-year
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Because you are not using all macOS features, things like AirDrop, copy&paste over handoff are life safer. Integration and simplicity makes macOS better. Also speed, mac's SSD are crazy fast and Metal is a great and efficient API.
No. As a business owner I'm quite "plugged in" to the business side of things.
Rubbish. Just complete rubbish.
I'm a programmer and would love nothing more than to use a Mac at work. Not going to happen at my current company, though. Like a lot of companies, our network/system infrastructure and security model are built around and tightly coupled with Active Directory. Getting Macs to work in that kind of ecosystem requires significantly more time, know-how and expense (e.g, configuration, support, software licensing, etc).
Just because you are a business owner doesn't mean you fully understand the costs and finances. That's why many businesses fail to thrive, or fail completely, or simply make less money than they would if they operated more efficiently. The fact that you consider it "rubbish" means you don't understand that you have costs beyond the initial purchase of a piece of technology in terms of the support costs, or that you are actually paying more for your technology that has a shorter replacement cycle than better made products, or that depreciation costs are variable, is why business consultants exist.
It's also not unique to small businesses, so don't feel bad. IBM is a huge company, and they found out they could be saving millions by switching over to Apple even though the Apple products were more expensive at initial outlay. Now they have taken that lesson and are sharing it with other businesses.
What wasn't mentioned was that 80% of respondents previously used a PC before switching to a Mac.
Haha okay first off, I do understand this. This is not the argument I am making. I am saying buying Apple doesn't save money, you can get much better RIO with other equipment and software.
Apple is for consumers, Pro's left a long time ago.
I don't run a small business. I run a very large and successful business. Please stop assuming everyone on an internet forum is some bum with a mom and pop shop.
There are two features of the MacOS Finder that Windows has a hard time replicating.
1). The difference in the Drag-and-Drop functionality of the Open/Save windows. On a Mac these windows will re-target TO the directory of any file or folder you drag into the window. This allows you to quickly jump to working directory that is open in Finder. Windows MOVES the item you dragged into the directory you're currently looking at, which I have never found a use for. If Microsoft made that one change, people's productivity on Windows would increase immensely.
2). Column view, the 4th option in Finder's different ways to view things. With column view allowing you to see a large portion of the file tree to your current directory, and drag-drop stuff up and down it. Plus a Preview panel for any File you have currently selected.
Those are basically the secret to MacOS's "superior work flow". How Drag-and-Drop works in the Open/Save window, and the Column view.
1). The difference in the Drag-and-Drop functionality of the Open/Save windows. On a Mac these windows will re-target TO the directory of any file or folder you drag into the window. This allows you to quickly jump to working directory that is open in Finder. Windows MOVES the item you dragged into the directory you're currently looking at, which I have never found a use for. If Microsoft made that one change, people's productivity on Windows would increase immensely.
2). Column view, the 4th option in Finder's different ways to view things. With column view allowing you to see a large portion of the file tree to your current directory, and drag-drop stuff up and down it. Plus a Preview panel for any File you have currently selected.
Those are basically the secret to MacOS's "superior work flow". How Drag-and-Drop works in the Open/Save window, and the Column view.
First, I wouldn't associate small business owners with "bums." Quite the opposite. They are some of the sharpest people around, plus anyone working, at McDonalds or elsewhere, is by definition, not a bum. Moving beyond that. If you're running a large business, you might want to bring in some outside people to take a look at your operations as it sounds like you have some significant blind spots. Here's an example of how you are leaving a lot of money, and making your employees less satisfied and why IBM, a former PC only environment, switched over almost 300K devices to Apple from Android and PC.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...7000-macs-and-ios-devices-issued-to-employees
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I'm already aware of that article and I read many just like it during the switch, even MacRumors had articles about it. My employees can choose to use whatever computer they like. Most of them choose to have our in-house people build them a computer for one very logical reason.
We use CUDA. Apple does not offer any computers that contain NVIDIA graphics cards nor do they allow us to use them in external GPU docks because they have not allowed NVIDIA to release drivers for macOS Mojave.
If we went out and bought a bunch of Macs they would create as much value as doorstops.
That study showed a $200 to 540 savings 3 years ago. While that is significant, the actual savings depends on the cost differential between the 2 machines. It would not be hard to find a PC with a price differential high enough to make a Macs TCO unattractive; although admittedly Macs are better built until the price points converge. The problem I see with such TCO comparisons if all you need to deploy is a lower end device to do basic web, email, word processing and spreadsheet use there is really no lower end Mac to compete with the $600 machines. If you buy instead of lease the capital cost difference, over 4 years with interest, makes the savings even less.
I use a Mac, but a Mac may not always be the cheapest TCO solution in all cases.
