Why do you have to have a new device on Launch Day? Wanna brag about it to you friends or is there some other reason?
Seriously can't you just slip your upgrade date a few months or is having new shiny-shiny on day 1 really that important to you?
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Japan Display Confirms OLED Production in 2018 Amid iPhone Adoption Rumors
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Seriously can't you just slip your upgrade date a few months or is having new shiny-shiny on day 1 really that important to you?
How do you figure? OLED brings true black colours and can be more battery efficient.
Of course it's not a matter of life or death. It's the fact that year after year, we have the same problem with new iPhone supplies. You would think Apple could fix it. You go to one store, "no we're out of it" we go to another, "nope, three month wait." It's like they do it on purpose.
so basically when i read your post you admit that the durability of oled is where it needs to be today, yet you are defending apple waiting another 3 years to implement it, which by then will be long old hat like lcds are now?
your post makes it sound as if lcd is a perfect technology, half the lcds out there - from apple - are junk with yellow tints or uneven color gradients. i went through quite a few ipad air 2 models because the screens were so bad and uneven, pink bands, dark spots, bookspines, etc.
lcds arent any better than anything else and they will never get any better than they currently are. time to move on. youre going to play the screen lottery no matter what with apple so it may as well be with current technology.
i also never said one iota about apple doing it halfassed, thats all in your head, not mine.
Wow. Then what reason does Apple have for charging $80 for a replacement? I assumed a better would be like $50 minimum.
Apple plans iPhone development years away. The average person doesn't realize that these phones are well into early planning stages years before they hit the market. It's all about supply chain management, and certain things such as screen tech need to be planned out a few years in advance. It's true they could probably have it ready a year early but Apple has very specific profit margins and everything needs to click into place for them. It's one of the reasons they have been very successful; they plan the specifics far ahead of time with small refinements over that time span and this allows them to bring in other features as they come along during development
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Profit margins? For what it's worth, I also called an iPhone repair shop (just the 1 data point) to see what they would charge and it was $50.
But yeah the kits I've seen online range from about $15-$30 (with battery and kit). I think I'm gonna just do it myself. I looked up the steps online and it seems pretty doable. The risk of me wrecking it seems pretty low (as long as I'm careful).
Stop putting words in my mouth; read what the hell I wrote, not what you wished I had written.
You're assessment flies in the face of well, everyone.
I own 2 air 2 : stop you can stop pulling some crap out of the air.
Durability is only starting to be OK NOW; still not as long as OLED.
That's why they used it in the watch,
which is on less time per day than the phone (3-4h max) (phones are on up to 10h a day).
manufacturing volumes are NOT OK yet, especially for larger screens. That's why OLED TV's are so expensive.
Apple can only start planning to put a tech in a phone when it actually is ready, because of the huge manufacturing push it needs to invest in if they decide to commit.
Apple needs hundreds of millions of OLED screens; nobody uses that many, so please spare the whole spiel about Apple being behind.
Apple phones are routinely in activity 4-5 years (resold, given, etc); the screen of Samsung screens that old look like total crap. that's a fact.
you are the one that put words in MY mouth, NOT the other way around. you made accusations that i wanted apple to do OLED "half assed". i said NO such thing. ever. anywhere. then you literally said OLEDs had recently become durable enough, and i said yeah so they are durable enough now, yet you are defending apple waiting another three years, which is exactly what you are doing. if you really want i can do a quote by quote highlight for you. trust me, you'll look foolish if it gets to that.
as far as me pulling crap out of the air regarding bad air 2 screens, do you really want me to put some threads here for you about the bookspine? again, youre going to look foolish when i dig up link after link of old threads on ipads and iphones complaining about yellow tint, bookspine, uneven tints, etc. i mean, are you new here? hello?
id hardly consider screens 4"-5.5" "large". why are you bringing up tvs? yeah, because a 50" tv is comparable to a 5" phone. whatever. other manufacturers have had NO problem putting out gorgeous phone displays for several years. apple couldve sunk millions into oleds three years ago and theyd be ready now.
know why a 4-5 year old samsung screen looks like crap today? because samsung updates their screen technology and doesnt use the same exact screen for five years straight.
anyway im done wasting my time arguing with you, unless you really want me to do a quote by quote and link a bunch of threads proving you wrong on several counts.
your attitude towards me is terrible and completely unwarranted as neither of my posts were malicious, but i guess you can consider this responding in kind. think hard about if you want to respond again with that ****-ass attitude.
Confirmed, you are blind.
Again, from my earlier post, ‘…….PLAN each unit they produce to have a certain life after which they will stop supporting it with hardware and software’, that was the important part you ignored.
I could compare cars washing machines, fridges, ships, anything. How that company compares to the rest of the industry is a good indicator as to what level of ongoing support they give. MB actually still keep some parts for the W124, a car that was released in 1984. Not all car manufacturers do for that long. You’d be hard pressed to say that level of suppprt was planned obsolescence. Way to deliberately miss the point.
Again comparing Apple's with Oranges. Computers and electronic devices are different to automobiles, motorbikes, trains and Boats. Of course, when you buy a several thousands of dollars worth car you are expected to have it working for quite few years (by replacing parts) That's not how it works on a several hundred dollars device. You get a major software update every year, mostly to be in par with the latest processors and other hardware advancements. You get apps that update to be in par with the latest hardware. My point is, I hardly see anyone using any mobile phone that is as old as the iPhone 4 or 4s. Heck, I even see people using iPhone 3GS. Or as old as the iPad 2, or even the first gen iPad. Even for the cars, the life expectancy now days is around 8 years. And yet, people love little conspiracy theories. These things are not meant to work forever. We are not meant to live forever. But then who knows.... maybe god (or nature, whatever you believe) have already set the planned obsolescence for us, it is a possibility.
I swear you read about 5% of each post and then just ramble.
Look, last time. Three things for you to digest then it’s back to work as I’ve run out of time to waste on you.
- …….PLAN each unit they produce to have a certain life after which they will stop supporting it with hardware and software.
- Not all car manufacturers do for that long. You’d be hard pressed to………
- I could be talking about any item. Look here for example. This is Apple intentionally putting blocks in the software to prevent you from running an OS.
I didn't say anything about you wanting something half-assed.
Seriously, learn to read and follow an argument! I'm tired of having to point that out.
You deserve my scorn; that's all I'll say... Bye.
You didn't?
Jesus ****ing Christ. How can you actually type that drivel, that you didn't say anything about me wanting something half-assed when it's right there in black and white for me to quote verbatim? Thanks for putting that gem on a silver platter for me to highlight, shows everything anyone needs to know about you and your thought process.
Goodbye.
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This is an example of the true power and influence of Apple. When Android phones embraced OLED, Apple lovers trashed OLED like it was a disease. Now that fragmentation isn't their latest buzzword, Apple is shifting the narrative ahead of the release of devices with this technology. An impressive display of dominant marketing.
Yep, gotta hand it to Apple. They are geniuses when it comes to convincing the consumer to buy something they didn't want previously and reach into a consumers wallet.
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True, there not a car from any year that can't be fixed. But I've thrown out appliances because they cannot be fixed.
meet or lobby? you wanna do business in the EU then pay the ***** taxman.
Japan Display today announced that it will begin the mass production of OLED panels in 2018 (via Reuters), confirming a rumor from December that the company would do so in attempts to be the supplier of OLED panels in a future iPhone model. This would put Japan Display -- a joint venture between Sony, Toshiba, and Hitachi -- in direct competition with LG Display and Samsung in the production of the rumored OLED-supported iPhone.
Japan Display, in addition to rival Sharp, already supplies the manufacturing of LCD panels for Apple's iPhone. In 2015, estimates of an iPhone supporting OLED panels -- which would be the first non-LCD model since the original iPhone -- put it off for at least the next three years, aligning with Japan Display's plans for the mass production of OLED panels.
Recent OLED rumors suggested that Apple's new Taiwanese lab could potentially focus on adopting OLED and micro-LED technology for future iPhone models. Towards the end of last year, a report also claimed that Apple is "close" to signing a final agreement with Samsung and LG Display in regards to OLED manufacturing for the so-called "iPhone 8." According to that report, both manufacturers are planning to spend $12.8 billion combined to prepare for the production of OLED in 2018's iPhone.
Article Link: Japan Display Confirms OLED Production in 2018 Amid iPhone Adoption Rumors
Is that really true though? Being a developer, I notice only a small % of my users are on devices more than 2 years old and the number becomes insignificant after 3 years. OLED iPhones don't need to last forever, as the technology of the phone itself is rather quickly outdated, to the point where they can't run the current OS and Apple stops providing updates for the older OS.
I think if they can get 2-3 years of quality OLED, that's good enough for a phone. Also, remember much of people's use of the phone is with the screen off (on voice calls, sometimes while using GPS navigation), so it's not like a laptop where the screen is on 8+ hours a day. And, even when OLED begins to go "bad", it doesn't mean it's necessarily unusable, you just might get reduced quality of the display. It's not like the display suddenly goes blank.
