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Japan Display Planning Mass Production of OLED Displays for iPhones in Early 2018
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I was going to say the same thing: AMOLED is not a magic bullet, though it has some benefits, it has many drawbacks as well, but has been making progress in this area. On a disheartening note: Samsung has been using them on their phones even before OLED had made much progress, equipping their phones with really poor displays.
It sounds to me like Apple is waiting to go full stripe RGB instead of pentile. A lot of people don't realize oled screens that use pentile have fewer sub pixels than the lcd equivalent. Once you get into the 400 to 900 ppi range you can't tell a difference really. IMHO oled is excellent. I love the deep blacks. Burn-in is very rare now and the whites have gotten consistently better.
Each year people keep talking about higher resolution screens using more power. That's simply not the case with Samsung's AMOLED displays. But hey, who needs facts in these forums?
Apple supplier Japan Display plans to begin mass production of OLED displays for future iPhones in spring 2018, according to Japanese website Nikkan Kogyo Shimbun [Google Translate] (via GforGames).
Japan Display executives are reportedly in negotiations with Apple about securing OLED orders for future iPhones, in an effort to compete with existing OLED panel suppliers Samsung Electronics and LG Display.
Japan Display, a joint venture formed in 2012 by Hitachi, Sony and Toshiba, is one of two major LCD display suppliers for current iPhones alongside rival Japanese company Sharp. Apple has used LCD panels for iPhones since the original model launched in 2007.
KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo reported last month that iPhones are unlikely to have OLED displays for at least the next three years, and Japanese website Nikkei confirmed that Apple plans to switch to OLED displays for iPhones starting in 2018. Apple may continue to offer some iPhone models with LCD displays to fulfill demand.
OLED displays can provide sharper images, better color accuracy and brighter colors compared to LCD displays, but the technology generally has a shorter lifespan and higher manufacturing costs. Samsung's popular Galaxy-branded smartphones are equipped with AMOLED displays, as is the Apple Watch.
Should these supply chain rumors prove true, the so-called "iPhone 8" could be released in late 2018 as Apple's first smartphone equipped with an OLED display, based on the company's current naming and release cycle.
Article Link: Japan Display Planning Mass Production of OLED Displays for iPhones in Early 2018
In 2018 it will be the iPhone 9.
The difference between oled and lcd lifespan can totally be ignored on devices which lasts only a few years. In almost all important specs for a phone screen, oled is better, better contrast, better color (more vibrant, when people say they don't like the over saturation they really just dislike Touchwiz and most Samsung users hate touchwiz colors also), better battery life if the os uses the screen properly, etc.
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Not exactly true; the Galaxy S6 uses a diamond Pen-tile arrangement(as opposed to a true RGB stripe), which at the sub-pixel level is equivalent to 384ppi.
AND with the "odd" arrangement of pixels leads to odd aliasing artifacts. (though this is mitigated by the high resolution)
You are forgetting recent history. For years OLED was light-years behind LCD in terms of Color Gamut, Pixelation (pen-tile), and power efficiency. In 2010 OLED's were the BOTTOM of the barrel in quality.
Only recently (Samsung S6) has OLED technology caught up with LCD.
Today, the AMOLED in the S6 is more power efficient than an LCD up to 65% APL, after-which the LCD is more efficient.
and the AMOLED in the s6 is slightly better than the iPhone 6 in color accuracy. But it seems that OLED still suffers from shorter lifespans (May not be an issue in "disposable" mobile devices) and image retention.
Given how OLED has progressed, could it be the new standard of displays? Maybe? But, remember LCD has quantum Dot technology on the horizon, promising more back-light efficiency (single frequency) and improved color, AND we have QLED (quantum Dot based LED) which may have all of the advantages of OLED with none of the drawbacks. So we need to see.
Yes I am, it's always been that way with each generation of Samsung's dominating display tech. Nothing comes close. From Displaymate:
"With each successive generation Samsung has been systematically improving the power efficiency of their OLED displays. We measured a 14 percent improvement in display power efficiency between the Galaxy Note 3 and the Note 4, which is especially impressive given that the Note 4 has almost double the number of pixels and therefore much higher processing overhead."
The current gen Galaxy flagships take it even further in the power efficiency. People really need to educate themselves instead of showing blind loyalty to a brand, any brand. The Note 5 and GS6/Edge/Plus have the most accurate colors while still offering you an option between 4 different calibration settings. This isn't news. But again, no place for facts in this forum.
They kind of don't agree with your idea. They just say Samsung is doing a great job. Pushing more pixels takes more processing power which drains battery faster. That's how it works. Even your quote makes mention to that.
Have you ever looked at OLED displays?! The color accuracy is very bad. It looks like Sh**!
Being an iPhone 6 owner the screen on the Galaxy S6 blows away the one on my iPhone.The S6 edge just looks too goddamn awesome with their OLED tech
And that right there explains why Apple makes the money it does. My job is done here.
Umm... Higher resolutions needs larger frame buffers, buffers that need refresh strobes, which need electricity.
Also, more pixels means larger graphic resources, needing more memory.
Your job must be to make non-sequitur statements.
Don't say that. Reality apparently isn't the truth and Samsung has found a way to change the way computer physics works.
That theory is so 2009 and I thought people have given up using that BS!!
I for one buy iPhone because it runs iOS, it offers me better experience then any other phones that I have used (Including 2 Samsung Galaxy phones that I had a constant problems with them, like freezing up when receiving a call so I had to remove the stupid battery to reset it)
That said, I know that there are some great great Android phones out there that do offer things that iOS does not but up to now nothing compelling that would make me jump the ship.
"OLED displays can provide sharper images, better color accuracy and brighter colors compared to LCD displays, but the technology generally has a shorter lifespan and higher manufacturing costs."
So, I guess that would mean, many more iphones screens go bust,, more customers come back in the store for replacement/repairs, and higher prices...
It's a win win... How can Apple loose this golden opportunity
So, I guess that would mean, many more iphones screens go bust,, more customers come back in the store for replacement/repairs, and higher prices...
It's a win win... How can Apple loose this golden opportunity
I have Galaxy S6 and colours are oversaturated and unnatural on the Samsung. iPhone 6S Plus is much better.
Interesting news and discussion. I'm not sure I'm all that jazzed up about Apple switching though. I'm happy with the quality of the display they have now. Switching technologies may introduce some unforeseen issues, i.e., bugs. in the hardware. This is the second major rumor about this, so it may have some truth
You are paying for the whole product not just one piece. A product is the sum of all of the parts not just the display not just the custom arm chips the programming and hardware designs that go behind the machine. There is a reason Apple didn't put in the OLED displays yet.
I don't buy this argument, otherwise they would have never used it in the Watch. It clearly has its advantages.