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It’s worth noting that Apple has a dominant share of the Japanese market, at over 50%. Samsung is, surprisingly, in the single digits, presumably due to tensions with Korea. Anytime a company is that big in a market, they will attract attention. Still, if the Japanese government is really interested in fostering more competition, they might want to look into why Sony completely pooped the bed in the smartphone market.
 
I can't believe people keep parroting this...

What happens when an app you already own decides to join the Epic, Microsoft, Meta, Amazon, Steam, etc store via an exclusive distribution agreement? Exclusive agreement meaning they will remove their app from the Apple store.

I will tell you... you will be forced to either abandon an app you already paid for or you will be forced to join another store. Soon users will an an app store account for all of the above which is yet another way for them to hoover your data.

Allow side loading, problem solved. Download .ipa and install it, just like open .dmg on Mac.

No store is needed.

Also, your hypothetical scenario has not happened on either MacOS or Android.
 
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I can't believe people keep parroting this...

What happens when an app you already own decides to join the Epic, Microsoft, Meta, Amazon, Steam, etc store via an exclusive distribution agreement? Exclusive agreement meaning they will remove their app from the Apple store.

I will tell you... you will be forced to either abandon an app you already paid for or you will be forced to join another store. Soon users will an an app store account for all of the above which is yet another way for them to hoover your data.
Look at Android, this hasn’t happened. Despite there being other app stores, apps are always almost listed on Google Play.

What you describe isn’t going to happen.
 
About 1% of users will use these alternative stores etc and half of those are doing something illegal.

It doesn't affect 99% of iPhone users. They don't even know these things exist. They don't read tech news. They don't even know what a torrent is. They heard about it and just shrugged.
 
Allow side loading, problem solved. Download .ipa and install it, just like open .dmg on Mac.

Hello I am Vish...I mean Dave at IpadOs Support calling hello Mrs Smith, please download the support app from this link I send you and I will be glad to help you with the problem that you googled. I'm glad you found our link at the top of search results. We are legit honest.
 
I can't believe people keep parroting this...

What happens when an app you already own decides to join the Epic, Microsoft, Meta, Amazon, Steam, etc store via an exclusive distribution agreement? Exclusive agreement meaning they will remove their app from the Apple store.

I will tell you... you will be forced to either abandon an app you already paid for or you will be forced to join another store. Soon users will an an app store account for all of the above which is yet another way for them to hoover your data.

That is actually already an issue Apple is responsible for. They don’t allow an app to be distributed on two stores at the same time.

Also, those 3rd Party Stores (there are like 2 so far?) are basically non existing in the public eye and I doubt it’s gonna change based on the rules imposed by Apple.
 
I can't believe people keep parroting this...

What happens when an app you already own decides to join the Epic, Microsoft, Meta, Amazon, Steam, etc store via an exclusive distribution agreement? Exclusive agreement meaning they will remove their app from the Apple store.

I will tell you... you will be forced to either abandon an app you already paid for or you will be forced to join another store. Soon users will an an app store account for all of the above which is yet another way for them to hoover your data.
Fair point. But alternate apps stores are already happening. And it doesn't seem to be slowing down or stopping. I will continue to use the App Store even if a future US alternate store becomes available.
 
Follow the leader at its best. One by one countries will look more like the Wild West with rolling the dice as to whether you are downloading a virus, worm, or other. No thanks. Dear Apple, I'll be using your App Store and satisfied knowing any bugs encountered are not intentional
And that's the good thing - you can continue to use the Apple services to get a service that has been vetted ( to a greater or lesser extent - we know they've let through some bad apps) or you exercise your choice to use an alternate. Apple should be winning because its the best, not because you can't use anything else
 
These various country/union specific regulations are building that house of cards. Apple currently has a solid, real house.

I support having alternative app stores or ways to buy and put apps on iPhones, but these various regulations will undermine the strength and stability of what Apple built. Maybe it will be better in the long run, maybe it will not. We cannot automatically assume it will be good or bad.

It will be good. Any time the consumer has more choice, we are better off. If Apple has to compete for app dollars versus other marketplaces, they will provide a better store experience for both the consumer and the app developer.
 
Hello I am Vish...I mean Dave at IpadOs Support calling hello Mrs Smith, please download the support app from this link I send you and I will be glad to help you with the problem that you googled. I'm glad you found our link at the top of search results. We are legit honest.

Your hypothetical scenario is not only way people will get scammed.

Even if without access to side loading or third party store, scammer can still use phishing to get people scammed.

You think all these people who get scammed over phone are all Android users?
 
How about all of these laws also including financial accountability provisions, so that if they indeed are security problems, consumers have recourse and scammers pay up and/or go to jail. The lack of common sense provisions is telling
Good idea. These should apply to the Apples Store too, though. There have been many instances of users loosing money from app scams on the App Store.
 
One by one countries will look more like the Wild West with rolling the dice as to whether you are downloading a virus, worm, or other. No thanks.
So download apps from reputable sources then.

I'm hardly putting my Mac at risk by downloading Photoshop directly from Adobe because it's not on the Mac app store. If I downloaded a pirated copy via BitTorrent then yes, it could absolutely be crawling with malware. That's why you shouldn't pirate software.
 
Without illusions whatsoever pertaining secure/safe/private devices, I consider Apple the lesser evil, and I would prefer the devices and the ecosystems not to become less less bad.

Can pretty much get anything done on most platforms, but sticking to one is advantageous seen from a security/privacy perspective, and I prefer to have as little as possible to do with stuff from other platforms/google/FB/MS/what not.

Well aware of the wider exposure, but this stuff are significant reasons for my move to Apple. Perfomance, simplicity, security and privacy where it can be had to the extent it is available.

Breaking up or fragmenting the ecosystem will weaken the platforms in the areas that makes me prefer Apple stuff. Well aware of the deficiencies of the following, but one can sort of half rely upon that a Iphone is as secure and private as your own in most cases. With these "stores" there will be no reason to assume such thing even to the limited extent it can be recogned with at present.

"Opening up to the benefit of users" is just business bull. It has everything to do with BIG corps wanting to tap into the profits. They don´t give a turd about their customers. They are just using it as a wedge to get in, and the customers are exploited to get there.

If anyone believe the development isn´t a security/privacy risk, please do enlighten me how these "stores" with even shadier cats than within Apple´s own shop will improve security/privacy.

6 weeks ago i set up a Samsung tablet for the princess, Woooow, I will never get anything Android ever again, and get her a iPad as soon as I can.
 
Hello I am Vish...I mean Dave at IpadOs Support calling hello Mrs Smith, please download the support app from this link I send you and I will be glad to help you with the problem that you googled. I'm glad you found our link at the top of search results. We are legit honest.

So nobody get scammed on iPhones today? All the apps on the app store are perfectly benign and safe all the time?
 
Smartphone market is much bigger than console.
While your statement is true, that has nothing to do with it. Japan is home to two of the three major consoles. They are protecting their own.

It would be great if American lawmakers had the stomach to force the exact same set of rules on console makers. I wonder how Japan would react if Sony and Nintendo were held to the same standards. Microsoft is probably going to leave the console business anyway.
You beat me to it. This should happen especially with the digital push the consoles have all been moving towards.

And that's the good thing - you can continue to use the Apple services to get a service that has been vetted ( to a greater or lesser extent - we know they've let through some bad apps) or you exercise your choice to use an alternate. Apple should be winning because its the best, not because you can't use anything else
That's why I only use Apple Mail, Contacts, Notes, etc. While it's true Apple could nerf them at any point, the chance of bad things happening with some third-party calendar app is much greater. Having gone back to the days of the original US Robotics Palm Pilot, I can handle simplicity in these core apps. A third party solution would have to be out of this world for me to trust with my data and money.
 
So nobody get scammed on iPhones today? All the apps on the app store are perfectly benign and safe all the time?
That's the wrong question. Nobody is saying that the walled garden is "safe all the time." It's just safer than the alternative. Or at least that's the choice that I made when I chose which mobile OS to go with. You and others now want to remove that choice from me, and are asking Governments to enforce your choice and to take mine away.
 
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