Also, it's hilarious that anyone would feel sorry for poor little Apple on a topic like this. Remember when they started selling something called the 'iPhone' despite Cisco clearly owning the trademark for that name?
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Japanese Entrepreneur Sues Apple Over Key Flicks and 3D Touch on iPhones and iPads
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The only problem here is that people actually believe that BS.
Look, Samsung isn't two Korean brothers, Sam and Sung that decided to start manufacturing phones and take the world by storm. It was and is a MASSIVE multinational with thousands of employees and billions in revenue.
In this case the patent is very specific as i read it. Beyond that this is not a software patent. It is very specific related to how a keyboard on a touch sensitive device could work. Apple would need to find very specific prior art to invalidate the patent. Frankly i cant remember seeing anything similar before the patent date.
Basing your argument around a hypothetical that ignores what a patent is and how it's used is kind of useless imo.
I think what the poster is referencing is Abe's ethnicity has nothing to do with the lawsuit. Whether he's Japanese, Russian, Cambodian, or Canadian is immaterial. There may be relevance not included in the article, but as written, "Japanese" is as unnecessarily superfluous as unnecessarily superfluous is redundant.
Your reply confuses me.
I am pointing that the patent system is for inventions and implementations to be protected. It's not a mechanism for "I thought of it first."
I bet current patent laws would likely allow the estate of Gene Roddenberry to sue over patent infringement rights to voice control of computers and devices if he had actually filed a patent. It doesn't appear to matter if the patent holder knows how to make it happen, they just have to file the proper paperwork and show a cartoonish concept of it. The creator of the Jetsons (or his estate) could file against anyone who ever invents any of the cool technology in that cartoon series, assuming he filed patents, which I doubt. Patent laws need to be revived.
I'm not understanding the point you are trying to are make. What's hilarious about Apple negotiating with Cisco years ago to use the iPhone name? Who said they feel sorry for "poor little Apple."
If you want to bash Apple, please at least try to make sense, and attribute actual comments made.
Apple is not seeking out users of their unused patents and trying to make money. That's what a troll does.
It is curious why this fella has taken so long to act.
I get so frustrated every time Someone makes this statement. It is so disingenuous to act like all Samsung did was make a rectangular phone with rounded corners. Look at their phones right before the iPhone and then right after... and look at us with a straight face when trying to say this. Have some integrity.
So I briefly looked at the patented as cited in the article...
It could possibly have some legs, but from my brief perusal it doesn't seem to refer to the actual keyboard being on a touch screen. It cites having a keypad, and then interactions with the touch screen are using a stylus.
Perhaps the patent is a little more specific than that, but it doesn't seem to be.
It could possibly have some legs, but from my brief perusal it doesn't seem to refer to the actual keyboard being on a touch screen. It cites having a keypad, and then interactions with the touch screen are using a stylus.
Perhaps the patent is a little more specific than that, but it doesn't seem to be.
It will be years before this settled. Apple will use it's deep pockets to drag this out a loooong time.
So it's not ok to sue small companies but ok to sue big ones? If so, that guy is right on the money
And Star Trek! They portrayed a lot of cool "technology" that has or may become real some day.
Oh look, another comment thread in which Apple is deemed guilty by a mere accusation. But then, never say never. I remember the guy ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kearns ) who invented the intermittent windshield wiper and offered to license it to Ford and Chrysler. Both rejected the offer and then proceeded to sell intermittent windshield wipers on their cars a few years later. He won $Millions.
Now whether this guy’s patent is applicable to Apple’s technology is something a court will decide. But as usual, the usual crowd is already condemning Apple for stealing this poor little guy’s life work.
Now whether this guy’s patent is applicable to Apple’s technology is something a court will decide. But as usual, the usual crowd is already condemning Apple for stealing this poor little guy’s life work.
That makes the biggest song writers, novelists, screen writers trolls.
A fairly unknown Dolly Parton song became one of the biggest song of all times, thanks to Whitney Houston. Dolly made an estimated 20 million dollars for royalties for a song she hasn't touched since the 70s (which barely made a dent back then). what a troll
James Cameron had zero involvements with any of the terminator movies since 1992, but got millions of dollars in royalties for characters he last used in 1991. for all purposes he's a troll too.
And don't get me started with George Lucas, and dozens others who license rights for movies, characters and songs they created. They all haven't been 'using' their creations, yet somehow got royalties for them. How dare they! Trolls
My understanding working with many attorneys in depositions for the past 23 years, is that the commercial success of a product over time with a infringed patent in the use, would equate to higher damages on royalties. If he had done it when it was first released it would be hard to prove commercial success based on the use of his patent. (IMHO)
Apple Newton (1993), anyone? Multiple buttons, touch (via pen), pop-up menu.
(around 1:40 min into the video)
So why do you buy Apple products then?
I’m tired of people claiming genuine inventors as patent trolls, and of Apple not caring less about stealing their work making massive profit from it.
I suppose you considered Ericsson to be a patent troll too when Apple counter sued then?
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A black face of an oblong shape with round corners isn’t an invention either, but Apple patented it and has sued people with it....
So you can’t really argue against the way it works unless you argue against EVERYONE who exploits the process.
Seems vague to me. Something will happen if you do something. Really?
Toshiyasu Abe, a resident of Vancouver, Washington, has filed a lawsuit against Apple in Oregon district court this week, accusing the company of infringing upon his patent with Key Flicks and 3D Touch on select iPhone and iPad models.
The patent in question is No. 6,520,699, granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office in February 2003.Like most patents, the description and claims for this one are very long and exhaustive, but from a high level, it at one point refers to a "user interface device" comprising "a plurality of buttons displayed on a touch sensitive screen," with "each button being associated with a plurality of characters or functions."
Here's how the patent is described in the complaint, obtained by MacRumors:There are several other embodiments of the invention, including physical thumb control pads on a mobile phone, notebook, or steering wheel in a vehicle, each with a multitude of pressure-sensitive, geometrically-shaped keys.
Various embodiments of the patent
The touchscreen embodiment does sound similar to how accented characters are managed on the iPhone keyboard. When a user taps on the E key, for example, a menu appears with diacritics such as È, É, Ê, and Ë. The user then slides their finger over the desired character and releases to input it in a text field.
Abe believes Apple's infringement extends to the Flick Keyboard, introduced in iOS 11 for select iPad models. When enabled, the feature allows an iPad user to simply tap and swipe down on a key to input a number or symbol. If a user taps and swipes down on the D key, for example, a $ symbol is inputted.
The complaint alleges that 3D Touch also infringes upon his patent, given its pressure-sensitive, multifunction attributes.
Apple is also said to be further inducing infringement by aiding and abetting the development of third-party iPhone keyboards and apps that implement flick-style keys and 3D Touch, available through the App Store.
Third-party Japanese keyboard for iPhone
The accused products include at least the following iPad and iPhone models sold in the United States: iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, iPhone X, iPad Air, iPad Air 2, iPad mini 2, iPad mini 3, iPad mini 4, 9.7-inch iPad, 9.7-inch iPad Pro, and the 10.5-inch iPad Pro.
The complaint alleges that Apple has known of Abe's patent since at least as early as 2009, when he first gave written notice of its infringement. The plaintiff allegedly exchanged a number of emails with Apple, and engaged in at least one phone call with the company's in-house counsel, but no agreement was reached.
Then, in 2017, the complaint alleges that Abe discovered an increase in Apple's infringing activities relating to the release of iOS 11, prompting him to send Apple another patent infringement notification letter last December. Apple and Abe communicated again, through counsel, but nothing transpired from the talks.
Abe is seeking damages adequate to compensate him for Apple's alleged infringement of his patent, in an amount to be proven at trial, but no less than a reasonable royalty. The court still has to agree to hear the case.
Article Link: Japanese Entrepreneur Sues Apple Over Key Flicks and 3D Touch on iPhones and iPads
Jobs most likely told him to F off......
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Actually, Ford had to bust a patent to make his car. he won. Had he not, the car would have been completely different.
https://fee.org/articles/how-henry-ford-zapped-a-licensing-monopoly/
Reminds me of the (in)famous Jobs quote..."good artists copy, great artists steal".
And in my corporate experience, the bigger they are, the more devious, immoral and arrogant they are about stealing and these kind of things.
I don't think you take on Apple lightly and so if there's merits in his claim, I hope he gets what he deserves.
And in my corporate experience, the bigger they are, the more devious, immoral and arrogant they are about stealing and these kind of things.
I don't think you take on Apple lightly and so if there's merits in his claim, I hope he gets what he deserves.