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Java Update 1.4.2 Update 1 Now Available
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Great, now java chat windows that first started working with the last java update not only don't work anymore, they instantly shut down Safari!!!
Don't install this "update"!
Don't install this "update"!
pkradd said:
What is the logic in this? Are you having issues before the update? No? Then why run it? The same after the update. I keep seeing people report this and it makes me wonder if this is a Aplpe reccomended procedure. Does not seem very user friendly to me!
I have applied this update and not had any issues but I wanted to say that Java is still VERY relavent. That said, here's my beef about Java:
Programs wrote under one client do not work well(or at all) on differing version numbers and because of this, I have 3 JRE's installed on my Windows machine at work. I have tired just going with the latest one, but it does not work. I hope 1.5 will resolve some of these issues, but I am not holding my breath.
Programs wrote under one client do not work well(or at all) on differing version numbers and because of this, I have 3 JRE's installed on my Windows machine at work. I have tired just going with the latest one, but it does not work. I hope 1.5 will resolve some of these issues, but I am not holding my breath.
Argh. Ever since this update was installed, most sites I've visited are not loading. Safari, as well as other browsers, tells me that the websites don't exist. And just to make matters worse, the Dell in my house is still connecting to all websites.
I'm hoping this is just Comcast screwing up at a terribly ironic time, but it doesn't seem too likely now.
At least I can still get to this site.
EDIT: Hurrah! My Internet connection works again! Now if only I knew why it stopped working. Let's blame Comcast.
I'm hoping this is just Comcast screwing up at a terribly ironic time, but it doesn't seem too likely now.
At least I can still get to this site.
EDIT: Hurrah! My Internet connection works again! Now if only I knew why it stopped working. Let's blame Comcast.
gorkonapple said:What is the logic in this? Are you having issues before the update? No? Then why run it? The same after the update. I keep seeing people report this and it makes me wonder if this is a Aplpe reccomended procedure. Does not seem very user friendly to me!
Since repairing permissions became available with Jaguar, it seems to have helped in many situations with odd behaviour in applications. I'm not sure why the installers aren't setting permissions correctly, but I have them checked/repaired after any installation and it's been worthwhile--whether Apple recommends it or not. It's not always the case that there is something to be repaired, thankfully.
It's Mac voodoo. In the old days the ritual was to rebuild the desktop, zap the PRAM and trash random preferences. It was easier than real troubleshooting, and often one of those actions would hit on the actual problem.gorkonapple said:What is the logic in this? Are you having issues before the update? No? Then why run it? The same after the update. I keep seeing people report this and it makes me wonder if this is a Aplpe reccomended procedure. Does not seem very user friendly to me!
Really, most of the changes made by the Disk Utility when it alters permissions don't really affect anything. For many files there are lots of acceptable owner/permission combinations, and Disk Utility just knows about one of those combinations (which is a perfectly reasonable thing for it to do). That's why most people who don't habitually run it still have working systems.
w00tmaster said:
Get over yourself. You are the one that said
w00tmaster said:
Since you are a developer then you should know that "already out" and "released in beta" are two different things. If the final version is released for Windows/Linux and not for the Mac then you will have something to complain about.
In the meantime, if you are really interested in trying some of the new features then why don't you download the linux JDK and create some projects using the source files of the "new to 1.5" features.
Frank
fpnc said:
Java is very relevant in many areas, especially in the development of enterprise applications. Just take a look at monster or dice and you will see how many businesses are looking for Java developers. The average computer user probably doesn't have any idea how much they are using Java in their everyday life. And, keep in mind all of the businesses that you deal with everyday that use Java to run their applications. Now, think about Apple and the XServe and OS X Server. They are marketing this to Java developers. If they can get into this market segment that will mean more Macs sold and the more Macs that are sold the better off Apple will be and the more great stuff they will create for their consumers.
I'm not sure what you meant with your other statement regarding Java methodologies and academia. Were you just repeating something you read or can you elaborate further? You do realize that more and more universities are using Java to introduce Computer Science students to programming and therefore more and more people with Java experience enter the workplace every year. I honestly don't think that people stop to think how young of a language Java really is in the great scheme of things. From what I can see it only appears to be gaining ground. Finally, any competent computer scientist can easily translate the concepts he/she learned in one language to another language. This is why computer science students study data structures, architecture, algorithms, etc.
Frank
Java failure
src/plugin/src/macosx/native/apple/applet/JavaWebKitView.m:635: failed assertion `pthread_main_np() == 0'
Abort trap
Any one else seen this? I have, and it is causing me difficulty on a page I am developing. Seems related to LiveConnect. java 1.4.2 works fine on the pages using 10.3.5; but Update 1 kills it. Safari simply crashes with no error message, except the one above in the console. This sees to be a serious problem, but one that not many have observed to date. I have posted to Apple.
Now how to I get back to 1.4.2 without the update on my second machine??
src/plugin/src/macosx/native/apple/applet/JavaWebKitView.m:635: failed assertion `pthread_main_np() == 0'
Abort trap
Any one else seen this? I have, and it is causing me difficulty on a page I am developing. Seems related to LiveConnect. java 1.4.2 works fine on the pages using 10.3.5; but Update 1 kills it. Safari simply crashes with no error message, except the one above in the console. This sees to be a serious problem, but one that not many have observed to date. I have posted to Apple.
Now how to I get back to 1.4.2 without the update on my second machine??
Groupwise client doesn't work
My GroupWise web client doesn't work anymore in Safari since the update, although, ironically, it works in Explorer. (Oh the humanity!) I'm having the same problem on both a G5 and PowerBook G4. I believe it's the java update, and not 10.3.5, because the GroupWise client is java based, and nothing else seems to be a problem on my computer.
My GroupWise web client doesn't work anymore in Safari since the update, although, ironically, it works in Explorer. (Oh the humanity!) I'm having the same problem on both a G5 and PowerBook G4. I believe it's the java update, and not 10.3.5, because the GroupWise client is java based, and nothing else seems to be a problem on my computer.
This update has been terrible for me
I've had 2 kernel panics (though they could be related to 10.3.5) and 4 JVM hotspot errors. Idea has terrible refresh problems and some other Swing applications have draw issues when scrolling.
I've had 2 kernel panics (though they could be related to 10.3.5) and 4 JVM hotspot errors. Idea has terrible refresh problems and some other Swing applications have draw issues when scrolling.