Jimmy Iovine Hints at Possible Apple Music-Like Apple TV Curation, Admits 'Connect' as Weak Point

[skellener]

I never cared for Ping before or the new one now.

 

[genshi]

Thank YOU for what you do! Would me streaming what you have on Apple music for maybe 3 hours or maybe 4 a day help you at all? Also I shared your connect page to my Facebook. Currently I'm one of those people who can't really afford to buy albums like I want but I can afford $10 a month to stream whatever. But when I do have extra money I will indeed buy your albums!

I'm gonna assume "Let me In" is your single as well? Listening to it now. Such a beautiful song! I love love love it! You kind of remind me of a female John Frusciente(his solo stuff) amazing work!

Thanks for the kind words and support... but yeah, I'm a guy, lol (I know you know that now.) That "Let Me In" single is my girlfriend singing for the first time in our new project. I did the music.

 

[Manderby]

Thanks for the kind words and support... but yeah, I'm a guy, lol (I know you know that now.) That "Let Me In" single is my girlfriend singing for the first time in our new project. I did the music.

I love how you two discuss. But shouldn't such discussions actually be held on a separate platform ... like ... drumroll ... Connect?

On another note: During the last years, increasingly, Apples presentation of music was becoming people-centric, speaking mainly the people behind the music: The artists. That is all nice and they do earn a lot of kudos for what they do. But to be honest, for me, music is about music.

If it isn't music, it's not music. And that sums it up for me about Apple Music.

 

[AdonisSMU]

I like Connect. However, they will need to build up that platform and don't half ass it like they've done so many times before. Connect is hard to use and unstable like several of the tabs in AM.

 

[Thunderhawks]

You would think so but I think they want to lock us in for as long as possible. The problem is that they've had a stranglehold over the entire process for years. At first I was really skeptical when Netflix decided to start producing original content but they've been successful and this success is going to force the hand of traditional players. How do you compete with Netflix? One way was to not compete but use their contracts with cable companies who own the lines to block companies like Netflix or charge them access fees which make their business model less sustainable. Luckily net neutrality seems to be secure for the time being. And because of that I'm hoping we get some actual innovation in pricing structures and mobile accessibility.

I'm especially hoping that sports will open up a bit more. The NFL is the worst when it comes to this. I live directly between the KC and STL markets and can't even get CBS on my giant aerial antenna in the attic to watch the Chiefs. Direct TV this season has twiddled their thumbs forever and have finally announced their plan sometimes in the past few days since I last checked. You can get Sunday Ticket streaming for $50/mo. That's not too bad but then again I'm considered "in-market" for the Chiefs so I can't watch them even though I live 125 miles away. So instead I resort to crappy pirate streams. I'm willing to pay but they won't take my money. Or rather they will but they won't let me watch so what's the point? It's beyond frustrating.

EDIT: So I just checked my eligibility on Direct TV Sunday Ticket livestreaming and it says my address isn't eligible! I bought it in the past when they had the Madden 25 bundle for $99. I was able to trick it into thinking I was in the STL market for most of the season by starting the streams on LTE but that stopped working towards the end. Last year I was so fed up with the Chiefs losing a massive lead to the Colts in the playoffs that I took a break. Now it's just not even an option. I'm pretty sure they're the only streaming option—so WHY and WHO gets to bestow upon me streaming or no streaming? It's a monopoly. I don't care enough to pay for a full satellite package. I'm also not sticking an ugly dish on my nice house just for football. The NFL can go screw themselves. Not watching football frees up more time to do other things and the Royals are actually good now so I can just watch that.

Maybe this helps:

Subscribe to a VPN provider (do a google search and decide who is best) usually under $ 50 a year and it is good to have for other reasons.
Then set your VPN location to whatever is needed to be out of that KC market and buy an online feed.
Just make sure you don't want to pay for the online feed with PayPal.
VPNs' reject anything financial due to the many redirects.
Couldn't tell whether you have cable, verizon or so.
If yes, you can get the games via the CBS, NBC and Fox channel , but they'll want you to authorize via your user id , password etc.
All worth a try if you are a diehard fan.

Last resort: Go to a bar and have a beer while they show the game.

 

[Jstuts5797]

I love how you two discuss. But shouldn't such discussions actually be held on a separate platform ... like ... drumroll ... Connect?

On another note: During the last years, increasingly, Apples presentation of music was becoming people-centric, speaking mainly the people behind the music: The artists. That is all nice and they do earn a lot of kudos for what they do. But to be honest, for me, music is about music.

If it isn't music, it's not music. And that sums it up for me about Apple Music.

I would think this kind of interaction is EXACTLY the kind of thing Connect was meaning to foster. Because of connect I was able to discover a new very cool artist I love, then connect with them on a more personal level outside of all the consumerism. Technically speaking, connect, helped me "connect" with an artist.... And on a level I've never been able to before. I've NEVER before been able to have a conversation with an artist like this, and it was all because of connect. The fact we were having a conversation here doesn't prove connect is worthless, in fact it proves the very opposite, that it truly does connect artists with fans.

 

[till213]

Ping...i mean "connect" isn't a hit. huh. shocking.

Well, give them another 5-7 years! After all, they're "still building it". And by that time it will be named something completely different. But it will be awesome and a never-before-experience that oooooouuunly Apple can do!

 

[marty1980]

That's pretty much how Connect works actually... if, for example, you go to your favorite artist to get their latest album, you will not only see all of their album releases, singles and videos, you will also see what they've posted on Connect, without actually having to click on the Connect tab (but even clicking on the Connect tab really isn't a "completely separate thing that take [sic] effort...")

What I'm saying is get rid of "Connect" and just focus on enhancing "iTunes." If iTunes just did all this social stuff without trying to have a news-feed-type-service, people would be more accepting.

I know plenty of "struggling artists" (local metal and hip-hop) who won't touch Connect because they're already on social media. There's no reason for them to pick up and use Connect. If all the artist has to do is upload an album or song, then there isn't anything extra for them to do to get the word out to existing fans on iTunes and that's great.

Apple could easily allow artists to provide links to social feeds and just show that on their artist page. Connect does way more than it needs to. It will never be the go-to social hub for fans and artists to connect. It just won't happen no matter how ideal Apple pretends it would be.

Apple removed "My Music" from the default list of tabs in order to show Connect. WTF? Like that is how my priorities are when I come into the music app... I'm there for MY MUSIC! Not to see what artists are up to. It just doesn't make sense the way Apple is approaching this.

The redundancy Connect causes is frustrating and pointless. Where are they going with this? How is this helping fans who already follow artists on other social media? Why do artists need iTunes-specific posts? Where is Apple getting the data that tells them that this is something that is missing from their music experience?

 

[loon3y]

i wouldn't take app/tech advice from somebody thats closer to 80 than 40.