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I think its in Steve Jobs autobiography that i read that there is a secret project that less than a handful of people are involved in to take down Google because they ripped of the iPhone with Android. The plan is to attack their heart, Search, and it would start in 2015. When i read that a while back i thought time will tell, then this rumour comes along......
 
I think its in Steve Jobs autobiography that i read that there is a secret project that less than a handful of people are involved in to take down Google because they ripped of the iPhone with Android. The plan is to attack their heart, Search, and it would start in 2015. When i read that a while back i thought time will tell, then this rumour comes along......

And exactly what was ripped?
 
I think its in Steve Jobs autobiography that i read that there is a secret project that less than a handful of people are involved in to take down Google because they ripped of the iPhone with Android. The plan is to attack their heart, Search, and it would start in 2015. When i read that a while back i thought time will tell, then this rumour comes along......
It's a secret known only to those few people, and anyone who read Steve Jobs' autobiography, and now anyone who reads your secret comment about the super-secret autobiography secret revelation.

But don't tell anyone, because it's a secret.
 
They should just buy DuckDuckGo ;)

Maybe they will. Goggle search has been feeling more Ask and the the rest of the crap from the 90's for years anyway. Toast those a holes ASAP please. I bet Apple's been working on a search engine since Schmidt screwed them over. Maybe that's what they're actually doing with Arizona plant. Since it's not a critical Apple service yet, they can afford to have a relatively independent skunkworks team on it like with the iPod and phone before they were announced. Hopefully Apple can borrow google's original search algorithms like Google stole the iPhone and iOS inspiration, sweat, designs and concepts.
Payback's a bitch. Hopefully it won't be the same crappy search engine they've been running on Apple.com for the last ten years.
 
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Apple Maps are great--and in my city, the STARTED better than Google.

Apple App Store Search is an ABOMINATION. I really hope THAT is what they're gearing up to replace.

I use Google to search the App Store--way better results. Shouldn't have to be that way.
 
I highly doubt Apple's going to create a search engine to compete with Google. Microsoft has been doing that with Bing and there's been speculation that it wants to offload it. Why would Apple go there?
 
I could see Apple doing this. Going into competition with Google, using their Spotlight feature to search your computer, the web etc - as though they are the same thing.
Kind of reminds me of back in the day when MS introduced active desktops where your desktop was meant to be the web or something. I thought it was a neat idea, but it didn't really take off. Why not have your desktop be a tiled view of your favorite websites? That could be your wallpaper.
 
They should just buy DuckDuckGo ;)

Splendid idea. While I am not really a user, DuckDuckGo has become well known and established as a good alternative to Google search. I believe Apple has all the tools and resources to blow Google out of the water in every field, but I do agree with many folks that services is not their strong suit. I find iCloud.com pretty cumbersome and the interface seems more optimized for touch, and since most iPhone users won't even access the web portal (opting instead for native apps on iOS and OS X) they need to take a page from Google. A simple search page with login options on the top is classic, but they should definitely try something a little different, however keeping the desktop user in mind and not the mobile user this time.
 
With how bad maps was at the start and the stranglehold Google has on search, I think it would take Apple years to have a semi respectable alternative to Google search.
 
Meanwhile, some countries still can't use the online functionalities of Spotlight.
 
As long as its only applies to 10.10 and/or newer i don't really care..... Since i'm quite happy on 10.9.

Apple can make changes to spotlight how they like...
 
For example, yesterday I did a Google search for "bcaa kreatine amazon". Then I was off to spend 30 minutes combing through the results, reading reviews, checking product ratings, making sure the products actually contained both BCAA and kreatine...

try learning how to search next time:
"bcaa-creatine site:amazon.com"

http://www.google.com/advanced_search
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/2466433?hl=en

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it has gotten significantly better over the years since release. Why people dwell on the past is beyond me.

Because for many people it is still garbage.
 
Apple Search

If Apple at anytime will provide a search service, at the best I think it may will be a search service supplied by other providers including search engines, it may be supplied by "Wolfram|Alpha, Bing or unlikely Yahoo", "Shazam or Soundhound", "Yelp or OpenTable", or others. It will be an extended edition of Siri.
 

You actually just validated my point. When it comes to consumer electronics and consumer technology, the answer is never "try learning how to X" or "just use Advanced Search." Those are workarounds that show the current situation is unintuitive and too complex.

If I can't get good results on Google with my BCs degree, I can guarantee you that 95% of other people can't either. Which is exactly why the current search paradigm needs to be revolutionized roughly in the way I described.

It's cliché, but your grandma will never use some search operators such as "+" or quotes or "site:X". All she wants is ask her device a question, and get an actual answer that helps her.

Whoever does that, wins. At this point, Google is still improving a candle instead of coming out with a lightbulb.
 
Best would be silent partner with DuckDuckGo

The best scenario would be for them to be a silent partner in DuckDuckGo and make them the default search engine for Apple.

What this would do would be to give DuckDuckGo the money it would need to ramp up its search engine while Apple would no longer have to be in business with the likes of Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, etc..

DuckDuckGo has a very close philosophy with Apple about how it feel about customer information.
 
If Apple made a search engine and released it any time soon, you would not be able to find anything. Maps is already bad as it is.

Another service that is not as good is iTunes. Google has them cornered.

Apple isn't even a service company.
 
You actually just validated my point.

You just made his point.

Their major point was about accuracy of results, my point was that if you need to change the output, fine-tune your input. Besides, i've never understood some people's expectation of reward without investment.

We've now got the most astounding knowledge resource ever available in the history of humanity and some people refuse to invest five minutes of their time to learn how to use it properly. Instead, they invest at least that amount of time complaining about it online. To me that is petty, unreasonable and not an attitude deserving of respect. :confused:
 
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