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For feature films and television these days, Final Cut is ABSOLUTELY the industry standard. Oh and in the 8 years I've lived in Hollywood, I never met one person in the industry who uses a Windows PC (maybe a writer or two).
 
I would still estimate that there are many more FCP installs in use than Avid.
If you look at the industry as a whole there are but the higher up the food chain you go the fewer FCP seats you see. These numbers are from a couple of years ago but from what I remember FCP had about 50% of the market and Avid had 25% or 30%. A survey of A.C.E. members (American Cinema Editors), who mainly work on 'Hollywood' TV shows and movies, taken around the same time showed that about 80% of members used Avid while about 10% used FCP.

For feature films and television these days, Final Cut is ABSOLUTELY the industry standard. Oh and in the 8 years I've lived in Hollywood, I never met one person in the industry who uses a Windows PC (maybe a writer or two).
No, it's not and people do use PCs although Macs are typically much more common in the creative fields than in the general population.


Lethal
 
For feature films and television these days, Final Cut is ABSOLUTELY the industry standard. Oh and in the 8 years I've lived in Hollywood, I never met one person in the industry who uses a Windows PC (maybe a writer or two).

I never killed anyone (maybe a fanboy or two) lol
 
From what I've seen at the places I've been as an editor, the people who still have Avid are the ones that invested in it awhile ago and it's cheaper to maintain their current hardware. Though there are certainly desires to switch. I've also seen some places jump from Avid to Final Cut when doing complete system upgrades and ditching their old Power PC machines for Intel ones. Many places that are starting out are also going with Final Cut over anything else out there.

My Final Cut might not be 64 Bit, but it's doing just fine. Though our graphic designers have seen significant improvements in terms of render times going from After Effects CS4 to CS5, I think I can wait another 6 months and then be blown away by whatever improvement Apple makes to Final Cut.
 
FCP is dieing. It lags well behind the other software and the killing of the xServer just adds more to it.
 
For feature films and television these days, Final Cut is ABSOLUTELY the industry standard. Oh and in the 8 years I've lived in Hollywood, I never met one person in the industry who uses a Windows PC (maybe a writer or two).

For feature films? I call BS! Maybe for independent "features" and even that is debatable.
 
FCP is dieing. It lags well behind the other software and the killing of the xServer just adds more to it.
Killing off the Xserver will only cause a tiny ripple in the sea of 1.5 million registered FCP users, IMO. The low and medium ends of the market, where FCP dominates, don't need, and can't afford, enterprise level gear like that. And for companies that do need large amounts of fast storage to be shared between a number of bays there are non-Apple alternatives. I'm not saying that there are not companies that went "Oh, ***" when they heard the news I'm just saying I think those companies make up a very small segment of FCP users.

Wasn't Final Cut Server based on the technology used in xServer?
Final Cut Server is asset management software (formerly known as Art Box and developed by Proximity Group) designed to be used over a network. Unlike the name implies it has nothing to do with server hardware.


Lethal
 
He said soon, about a year ago. Early next year, coming from him, could mean anytime before june... :\

would you remember where it was said such a thing?. a link could help.
I would call him a lier for it but without proof it not my style.
 
6 Months?

From what I've seen at the places I've been as an editor, the people who still have Avid are the ones that invested in it awhile ago and it's cheaper to maintain their current hardware. Though there are certainly desires to switch. I've also seen some places jump from Avid to Final Cut when doing complete system upgrades and ditching their old Power PC machines for Intel ones. Many places that are starting out are also going with Final Cut over anything else out there.

My Final Cut might not be 64 Bit, but it's doing just fine. Though our graphic designers have seen significant improvements in terms of render times going from After Effects CS4 to CS5, I think I can wait another 6 months and then be blown away by whatever improvement Apple makes to Final Cut.

Some have said it is most likely to happen early 2012. although Jobs himself has said early 2011. but again like some say. coming from him (steve), early 2011 could very well mean from January to june.
 
FCP is definitely NOT the current standard. Avid is still the winner here. I currently run Avid, premiere CS5 and FCP. Avid being my go to. Those of you thinking about switching to premiere, i urge you to look at media composer 5.
 
All of his email responses are terse. Verbose is a bad thing if you are an executive, and frankly, people should strive for terse in business anyway.
I don't dispute that in a way, but the reply was terse to the point of being almost useless. They guy made a reasonable point not only about FCP but also about Apple openness (both in terms of road maps and blogging). Could Apple possibly move to being a tad more customer-friendly, or is that solely limited to here-and-now consumer sales (nice shiny gadgets, nice shiny stores)?
Reminds me of an anecdote that I read of Tim Cook. In a meeting of Apple managers, he explained that there was a problem in one of the Chinese assemblies houses. A few minutes later, he looked at the engineer/manager and asked "Why are you still here?".
Hmmm, sounds like Tim Cook's a bit of a ****!
 
For feature films and television these days, Final Cut is ABSOLUTELY the industry standard. Oh and in the 8 years I've lived in Hollywood, I never met one person in the industry who uses a Windows PC (maybe a writer or two).

You couldn't be more wrong.

Independent films and low-end cable reality shows are the only people using FCP.
 
Hmmm....

Here's to hoping it releases before May....when i graduate. :D
 
Sandy Bridge

I think they will use the new 256-Bit advanced vector extensions (256-Bit AVX) of the Sandy Bridge processors. It makes sense, because GPU-based solutions like Badaboom do not reach the same quality as CPU-based solutions. The AVX are ideal for video codecs, filters an so on.

Yeah, that means we will see new Pro hardware from Apple "early next year". And no, you will not see LP in Macs until 2015.

;)
 
I'm working on a new project and decided to do it in Premiere/After Effects CS5 after booting into 64bit. It's way faster and makes FCP seem like an old sluggish turkey. I'm sticking with Adobe until I see what Apple has to offer next year. Depending on what you do, Adobe has a much tighter integration with it's product line and they have a more modern UI compared to Apples 1990's interface.

The next FCS better be extremely better if they intend on catching up with Adobe. By the time Apple gets FCP out next year, Adobe will be close to releasing CS6 and that will probably be another jump past Apple. I'm not holding my breath for Apple; they only care about their main cash cows now. Those being the consumer device/application markets.
 
FCP is definitely NOT the current standard. Avid is still the winner here. I currently run Avid, premiere CS5 and FCP. Avid being my go to. Those of you thinking about switching to premiere, i urge you to look at media composer 5.

Avid has some of the most sophisticated cutting tools I have ever seen.
I've used it back during the Express DV days and was so impressed with how perfectly you could cut with it.
Other programs were more useful for effects, but as an editor Avid was tops.
It's a shame that apple has let FCP slide into such out of date condition.
 
Film & Television Industry = 77% AVID - 20% Final Cut Pro

http://ace-filmeditors.org/2009-ace-equipment-survey/

This is what the big dogs use. And there is good reason for it. If you cut with more than one person on a project you can't beat a unity or an ISIS.

Final cut is fine. But it's no AVID. So when people say Final Cut is the industry standard on here they aren't talking about the Film & Television industry.

Final cut made a big jump for a couple years because of producers trying to cut cost in post but you get what you pay for.
 
A survey of A.C.E. members (American Cinema Editors), who mainly work on 'Hollywood' TV shows and movies, taken around the same time showed that about 80% of members used Avid while about 10% used FCP.
Is there a reason why so many use Avid over FCP?
 
Is there a reason why so many use Avid over FCP?
There are a number of reasons ranging from they have no compelling reason to switch away from the tool they are most comfortable with to their workflow requires things that Avid does better than FCP to they've already invested a lot of money in an Avid workflow. Off the top of my head I'd give Avid the nod for things like better multi-user environment, better shared storage solution, better media management, better multi-camera editing, better format support (AMA), better handling of mixed media timelines, and, for lack of a better term, a more refined product in terms of solely editing.

Does that mean Avid is perfect? No, far from it. Does that mean FCP is horrible in the categories I mentioned, no not necessarily (although FCP is really lacking in multi-user environments). A big reason FCP became so popular though is because it could do the majority of what Avid could do for much, much less (like $60,000 or more less back in the day). Obviously the price difference is much less now (I think Media Composer software goes for $2000 or $2500) but for many of FCP's core users that's still a huge difference.


Lethal
 
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