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AoWolf said:
I think we all expected this. It is however good news. The big question is what is he gonna launch 🙂 I hope we get a good leopard preview.

Agreed I'm really looking forward to the event, and if they show a good leaopard preview than I will be that much more excited

I'm thinking...

Intel machine of some type... maybe even 2
iLife and new iWork
and maybe an upgraded shuffle... but that might be pushing it
hopefully a preview of leopard
SJ will do a song and dance number on stage... I think that would be entertaining
 
Bubbasteve said:
hopefully a preview of leopard

I think we won't be seeing much talk of Leopard until WWDC myself, but I could see Jobs briefly mentioning it, like he did at this year's WWDC. It also depends on the release date. If 10.5 won't be released until 2007, don't expect to see too many details regarding it for a little while yet. 😎
 
~Shard~ said:
I think we won't be seeing much talk of Leopard until WWDC myself, but I could see Jobs briefly mentioning it, like he did at this year's WWDC. It also depends on the release date. If 10.5 won't be released until 2007, don't expect to see too many details regarding it for a little while yet. 😎

Stop microsoft from copying Apple's innovative new features.. 😛
 
Stella said:
Stop microsoft from copying Apple's innovative new features.. 😛

Maybe it's for that reason, but I do find it strange that nothing at all about Leopard seems to have leaked--beyond, perhaps, a rumour or two about an 'updated Finder' and 'resolution independence,' or some such. Why not a single screenshot? Not a single mysterious screenshot (y'know, like of an iWork Assistant in the form of a Steve Jobs bobble-head) that might or might not be a hoax, to leave us drooling over the holidays?
 
Stella said:
Stop microsoft from copying Apple's innovative new features.. 😛

😉

Or, along those lines, accelerate the development of Leopard such that just before Microsoft releases their version of Tiger (aka Vista), Leopard is released, taking all the wind out of their sales (double entendre intended.)

Then, as icing on the cake, make Leopard run natively on PCs as well, capturing even more marketshare. 😱 😎
 
~Shard~ said:
Including FrontRow with iLife definitely makes sense, since those are the apps Front Row intferaces with. And I see iWork slowly growing and becoming more mature as well - we knew from last year that iWork '05 was only a first step.

I really like Pages and Keynote for light work, but for anything even remotely complex, they just don't have the chops. The problem Apple will have is adding the right features and keeping the usability and small footprint. The niche that these products fill is the good enough word processing application that anyone can use and get the results they want, so long as what they want is relatively straightforward. Word does not fill that niche, you really need to either be trained or just spend a LOT of time with that product in order to learn how to use it to accomplish even some basic tasks (e.g. sensible word wrapping around pictures).

Apple seems to be taking the "less is more" approach to these applications, and that is an approach that I applaud. However, as they become more and more accepted, Apple will be pressured to add more and more "power" features, and that is hard to do without adding complication.
 
Very nice. It was practically a given that Steve would do the keynote, but it's always good to read it. This should be the most exciting MacWorld yet. 😀 I can't wait!
 
dernhelm said:
I really like Pages and Keynote for light work, but for anything even remotely complex, they just don't have the chops. The problem Apple will have is adding the right features and keeping the usability and small footprint. The niche that these products fill is the good enough word processing application that anyone can use and get the results they want, so long as what they want is relatively straightforward. Word does not fill that niche, you really need to either be trained or just spend a LOT of time with that product in order to learn how to use it to accomplish even some basic tasks (e.g. sensible word wrapping around pictures).

Apple seems to be taking the "less is more" approach to these applications, and that is an approach that I applaud. However, as they become more and more accepted, Apple will be pressured to add more and more "power" features, and that is hard to do without adding complication.

Quite true - we'll just have to trust Apple to find that balance, giving users what they want without creating the equivalent of Microsoft bloatware which loses all user-friendliness and simplicity. Apple needs to clearly define the niche that it wants Pages to fit in, so users can clearly see if that app is the right fit for them or not - this will also help Apple to ensure they don't turn Pages into something that it's not intended to be.
 
oh i cant wait for steve to talk economic benefits again and that ipods not probably taking 95% of the mp4 market...seriously, nanos are like one of the top sellers as its literally on every1s wishlist!
so some of u think that there will b an upgraded shuffle? wow..lol...i am very happy with my shuffle...
also my friend told me that there was rumors about isight2 did anyone hear about that?
 
liketom said:
that would be a PDA then ? not a iBook Mini

PDA equals "distinct operating system" to most people. I'm not talking about a PDA, I'm talking about a portable computer the size of a "PDA".

I don't want some "OS X lite" operating system that requires a special version of software (like Windows CE or PalmOS). This is one of the main reason the PDA market isn't as strong as it could be (similar to MP3 players before/without the iPod).

SiliconAddict said:
A better comparison to Sony wares would be the PCG-X505 IMHO that form factor, with a better keyboard layout, combined with an ULV Pentium M and OS X would be a KILLER iBook.

This thing (PCG-X505) is way too big, there's no real surface difference between that and a 12" iBook/PowerBook. Making something thinner doesn't make it smaller (you can't fit a 0.5" thick laptop in your pocket if it has a 12" screen).

Imagine a thin (0.5") Mac mini, cut about 25% on the depth (say, 6x4x0.5").
 
russed said:
why? it is free already!

Keynotes are free but not downloadable. Plus keynotes disappear forever when Apple feels that it is time. It would be nice to see a keynote on the iPod and share with friends or create your own DVD collection, etc.

It's fun to watch keynotes of the past and to see the audience clap on using a ATI 128 Rage Pro in iMacs or the silence when .Mac was not going to be free for example.

Someday Steve will retire and Keynotes of 2015 may be boring without Steve.
Apple might turn into a Microsoft and you will miss the good old days of Macworld.
 
BornAgainMac said:
I wish Apple would make the keynote a $2 download or free from iTunes.

Indeed! This is something I'd be glad to pay for! (though I'd rather have the hi-res 640x480 version, not the iPod-ready 320x200 version - I'm aware I may have the wrong numbers here, but it's about hi-res vs low-res, not the exact pixel resolutions).
 
Lots of talk of a smaller iBook got me thinking. What is the practical value of of OSX on smaller hardware? I am not being rhetorical with that either. I doubt the pros would use it they mostly want faster computers. Students already have the iBook and it does a pretty good job.
 
moesker007 said:
Hey everyone, what are your guys and girls expectations on what iLife and iWork '06 will bring? I haven't bought iWork and i'm waiting for '06 i hope they throw a spreadsheet program in there. well i'm back to cisco class peace

Well, from the last keynote, you can at least be sure there's gonna be new slide transitions with Keynote 3. 😎
 
shadowmoses said:
This is one of the most anticipated keynotes in ages, should be very exciting...

Shadow

I think Keynote 2.0 was the most anticipated Keynote, but no one expected Pages. 😉

I'm not sure why it's news that SJ is going to be at the Moscone Center giving the keynote speech. If he wasn't the one, then, it would be news.

Those Intel-laden consumer machines should be a huge presentation, especially if they crash on stage, the way they do at Microsoft's developer meetings. 😱
 
AoWolf said:
Lots of talk of a smaller iBook got me thinking. What is the practical value of of OSX on smaller hardware? I am not being rhetorical with that either. I doubt the pros would use it they mostly want faster computers. Students already have the iBook and it does a pretty good job.

It can run the same software as your laptop/desktop. But it's small enough that you carry it around everywhere. That's the two main reasons for such a product.

A 12" laptop may be small but still not small enough to carry around all the time. It's like a "Discman vs iPod" comparison. You don't really mind carrying an iPod around all the time because it's small enough (especially the iPod nano), but you'll likely leave the Discman home if you're not sure you'll use it (too big).
 
hmmm, keynote, jobs, SF, macworld, these are all words I like seeing in a headline when I refresh macrumors. I can't wait, screw christmas, I want MacWorld now! 🙄
 
moesker007 said:
Hey everyone, what are your guys and girls expectations on what iLife and iWork '06 will bring? I haven't bought iWork and i'm waiting for '06 i hope they throw a spreadsheet program in there. well i'm back to cisco class peace

I for one hope that they include an equation editor in Pages. It's frustrating getting a masters in econ when Pages doesn't have this, and MS doesn't even make it available in their mac version of office.

Oh, and we better see some Leopard. And some iPhoto = miniAperture action.

That's all I've got to say.
 
bousozoku said:
Those Intel-laden consumer machines should be a huge presentation, especially if they crash on stage, the way they do at Microsoft's developer meetings. 😱

Hardware is usually not at fault, software is. Which explains why it crashes at MS meetings. 😉
 
Well I guess we should look at what is the most popular thing Apple is seiling and expect it to be upgraded...

Shuffle needs an update - bring on OLED screen. Doubles as a IR remote 🙂

Mac Mini - another small and profitable product for Apple to spin millions off - especially if its geared to the ipod etc

100 Gig iPod Video - finally...

8 Gig Nano...

Screens need to be more competative. Lets see better resolutions at least and some price drops. aybe a 17" or 19" with speakers designed for the mini. HMDI?

New airport express with video out...
 
I'm really hoping for FrontRow 2.0 to be built in to iLife 06. This would allow the MacMini to be an obvious Media Center Mac.
 
grigglerocks said:
I'm really hoping for FrontRow 2.0 to be built in to iLife 06. This would allow the MacMini to be an obvious Media Center Mac.
your wish is Steve Jobs command 😀

i want to know what 6 scoundrels voted negative for this news of the Keynote?😱
 
Ja Di ksw said:
You know, before I found this message board, I never knew when this stuff was coming out. I would just sit around happy and then one say see that, "oo, there's something new on Apple's webpage" or maybe one of my friends would tell me something came out.

But now I have to sit for over a month, sometimes more, sometimes a LOOOONG time, wondering, waiting, hoping. Now for the next month I'm going to be sitting around wondering what will happen at the Keynote.

I hate you all 😀
thats funny,

I remeber years ago being kinda ticked off that the "Apple store is down right now, we'll be back in about an hour" sign was up. Back then I had no clue that that was an product update thing, I just thought it was down for some reason...😱
 
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