I'm thinking they won’t do the 's' thing because they want all customers to feel they’re getting the latest phone this year. They’re all iPhone 8 - just different tiers of tech.
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I'm thinking they won’t do the 's' thing because they want all customers to feel they’re getting the latest phone this year. They’re all iPhone 8 - just different tiers of tech.
Gruber is a fool!
It is getting to close for anyone to believe rumors like this.
7S, 7S+ and 8, here they come.
It is getting to close for anyone to believe rumors like this.
7S, 7S+ and 8, here they come.
I agree that Pro is used by Apple in the way you describe. It’s just that I think 2017 is a one off. Apple is releasing three phones because it can’t do what it would have liked to, which is to release two iPhones this year - both all-screen, on big and one small.
So, next year, once they perfected their supply line and they release the iPhone 9 and 9 Plus they won’t need to be called a Pro because there won’t be anything below them. The 'Pro' would end up being a one-off, 2017 orphan.
Don't get me wrong. I don't necessarily think that this year's iPhone will be called the iPhone Pro at all. I just don't agree with the reasoning that it can't be because "it's not just for professionals". "Pro" products are for whoever wants the best model that money can buy. Doesn't matter if they're a CEO or a Starbucks barista.
What is the point of doing this if iPhonr 8 is ultimately the design Apple wants going forward? Move Touch ID to the back of the phone for 1 year just so they can shrink the bezels a bit in the front? Seems like a waste and is going to piss people off as back of the phone is not nearly as convenient as the front.
It's F A K E because it doesn't have a glass back. Wireless charging won't work with an aluminium back, so the back has to be made using glass. It takes less than a second to call F A K E, simply because it's missing a glass back. There's no need to analyse anything else like "aluminum raised to meet up with the cameras" or "a slim piece of metal between them". It's missing a glass back, so it's F A K E. End of story.
Look you don't have to be deliberately ignorant. You understand that Pro is referring to professional computer users. This means people that do professional level editing, graphics, mixing, gaming, art, etc. this does not mean ALL professionals. I think Apple hoped that people would be smart enough to ascertain that a computer device labeled 'Pro' meant this device was not for computer users in general, or professionals in general, but professionals who's jobs rely on computers to do work.
It's really not hard to understand.
You're right about one thing: Pro is simply another marketing term, in this case though, the marketing is to draw attention to professional computer users, and tell them 'this computer was built more powerful for you, check it out'.
The iPhone will never be for professionals, it's for everyone. It happens to be that people of innumerable professions can use iPhones to do some work. The simple fact is, the iPhone comes every year with the best Apple can offer, and the best it can offer is for everyone in the world, not a select group in mind.
The new iPhone will have a new marketing term attached to it, representative of new design/features. It's purpose will be to draw attention to this. The second people see 'iPhone Pro' they'll scuff and not bother looking at this iPhone which they believe is more powerful for professional users, and with the massive price increase, they'll be even more likely to decline.
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We all know those are fake. We all know Apple wouldn't put Touch ID on the back. We all know apple's teams of HIGHLY intelligent people never even considered that.
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Look, they aren't the best products. The MacBook Pro isn't the best MacBook. In fact it's a piece of garbage compared to the regular MacBook to about 97% of the world. Why is that? Because 97% or more of the world do not rely on computers to do processor intensive work, this means the thinner lighter more mobile laptop is superior.
I do nothing professional with computers, and I own a 2010 MacBook Pro, but just because I bought this doesn't mean I don't understand that this laptop was built with professionals in mind. Could I buy it? Yes I could, but it wasn't designed for my needs. If I had a straight up option of a free MacBook or free MacBook Pro today, I'd take the MacBook hands down.
How does one define best that money can buy? The ceramic Apple Watch is much more expensive than the aluminum model even though the technology inside is exactly the same.
Seems like you’re defining best as what sells the most or what you personally prefer.
No I'm defining best as the best product for a particular need or particular group of people. The MacBook Pro is better than the MacBook for professionals. The MacBook is better for everyone else due to its having features that are superior for everyone else.
It's like saying the best washing machine is an industrial washing machine. No. The industrial washing machine is near-worthless to consumers. The consumer washing machine is near-worthless to professionals.
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They don't have a night mode either. Some things elude sites.
Because they still have to stay competitive on the current top-tier phone market. Bezels are dead in this segment in 2017, they are competing with the Google Pixel, LG G6, Xiaomi Mi Mix, Samsung Galaxy S8 and Note 8, etc. This is the best they can do while maintaining the current manufacturing capacity.
I think that the LCD screen phones will not have wireless charging. That is reserved for the new OLED model as one of the differentiating features to justify the new price point.
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This. Totally agree. Somehow people think Pro means something more than it does. It just means the best model. I mean, do only Professionals buy MacBook Pros or iPad Pros? Also, what is a professional? Most of us are professionals at something. And most of our jobs require computing power and communications in some capacity.
I don't know what they'll call the new phones but iPhone, iPhone Plus, and iPhone Pro makes sense to me. Or maybe iPhone Spiffiest?
The term or moniker for "Pro" is more oriented towards a product that accomplishes more work development related tasks or various platforms for applications. The iPad Pro and MacBook Pro are examples of this.
But believe me, there is no correlation for an iPhone to have the term "Pro" associated with it. An iPhone is a commodity that receives messages and make phone calls. And the other features included with the iPhone do not make it any more Pro either. The iPhone is more of a daily tool if you will for more of a communication basis, versus a resource or productivity device that the iPad Pro or MacBook Pro are meant to be.
Whatever the iPhone is labeled this coming September, it certainly will not be Pro, and I don't believe Apple intends the iPhone to be a Pro device.
You don't have to be deliberately ignorant either. When I say that Pro devices are the best, I mean highest specs and most features, not in a subjective sense.
But if Pro means for professional computer users then it really is inaccurate. Everyone from students to grandparents use MacBook and iPad Pros.
The Pro devices are not the best devices. If you mean strictly what has the best specs then sure, but the best specs does not make the best device for users. For example the thinner and lighter body are two features that make the regular MacBook the better laptop for most people.
It doesn't matter who buys the devices. Anyone can buy the Pro devices, but they were designed with professionals in mind.
I believe so. It is a "cheap and simple" update from the iPhone 7 shell so they can manufacture millions of these with minimal retooling. The bezel-less screen is pretty standard at this price point, and it would make the iOS 11 experience more consistent across the 2017 iPhone series.
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Those are the clonesDon't ask where the pic came from. I got it from a friend who got it from a friend who got who knows where or how. May not mean a thing.
Type iPhone 8 clone and that's the same exact design with the flash position and everything
This is not a matter of ignorance, because your understanding differs otherwise. It's a matter of your definition of "Better" does not meet Jowblow7777's narrative in terms what he is saying. A "Pro" device is meant to deliver the latest specifications and incorporate the power One needs to accomplish those tasks. Only the user defines how a Pro device can meet their expectations, regardless of what they are using it for. That user can be classified as a student, attorney, School teacher, etc. It doesn't really
Matter who uses it, because it applies to everyone, which will differ and no two users will be the same.
Furthermore, aesthetics are what attract people to a device and that's what Apple does so well. But thinner and lighter only travel so far because it's superficial, when ultimately it's based on internally what they are using the Pro for. I can make the argument that I purchased the iPad Pro because it's thin and light, but I don't care about the processing power and features. Or vice versa. My point is, Apple's hardware makes the experience great, but the accomplished tasks someone compeletes is because what the device offers in terms of performance and features. There is no core demographic who purchases the MacBook Pro just for the sake of the term "Pro", when perhaps they want the latest specifications, which makes that device the best by their mindset.
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Sorry, we have established that this design is fake. Why the **** would Apple invest in Facial Recognition, ship it with the iPhone 8/X/Edition/Pro and not the 7s. And then even putting Touch ID on the back. Nope not gonna happen.
And most importantly: LOOK at the three CAD files in your picture (the one with "iPhone 6 and iPhone 7 confirmed"). First of all, compare the CAD files of the "iPhone 8" with the prototype. The front facing camera is different, there are no front facing sencors on the file, the position of Touch ID is different. And if that is not enough, look at the iPhone 6 and iPhone 7 file. Do you see the difference to the "iPhone 8" file?
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The 7s and 7s Plus will get a glas back. Sorry, but Apple will not give them a radical redesign and then name them 7s and 7s Plus. I think it is very reasonable that they will drop the 7 name altogether.
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Minimal retooling? If they add a bigger screen, they need a bigger L shaped battery. If they do that they need a stacked logic board. If the bezel decreases, they need to rewire everyting. Then they need to move Touch ID to the back of the device. Do you really think that this is minimal retooling? And on top of that, the design is ugly, not detail oriented (look at the corner of the screen not being aligned with the corner of the device).
Third of all there is no indication on why Apple should increase the screen size if they only want to keep the iPhone 8 Design for next year. It would only piss off developers who would have to adapt their apps to yet another screen size that will only be sold for a year and then dropped again in favor for a different screen size and most importantly screen ratio.
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This is pure absurd chatter. What I said is the truth, you're talking non-truths. End of story.
"Pro" could just be Apple's internal code word for "profitable"
. Like an in-joke.
