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ChatGPT, WhatsApp (sorta) too. And many, many more. Pivotal to be honest for a lot of editing experiences that's available to consumers as well as enterprises.
Also a new feature in Apple Notes for iOS 26, funny enough.

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You're asking two questions, but missing the third about whether he was right to write the "I wonder" post. That's a major point in our context.

Something is always the matter with companies this big. You can't scale perfection up infinitely. Plus, once you reach a certain size, knives will come out no matter what.

Yes, things have been suboptimal with Siri for a long time and AI for a little while, but they're being addressed and differently from the kind of idiots investors who ask questions on earnings calls, LLMs aren't the only thing that matters to me. The changes to iPadOS alone have been more worthwhile than a lot of possible AI features.
You’re completely missing the point. The point wasn’t AI or Siri, this could have been about Macs or OSes or phones or whatever. The point was Apple presented a feature they couldn’t demo, and even worse advertised a feature they couldn’t demo or deliver. This, historically, is unlike them. They got too cocky or optimistic… it doesn’t really matter because either way it broke trust unlike they’ve broke it before.

THAT was the point.
 
Read up on vaporware, then come back.

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware:
"Vaporware", sometimes synonymous with "vaportalk" in the 1980s,[3] has no single definition. It is generally used to describe a hardware or software product that has been announced, but that the developer is unlikely to release any time soon, if ever.[4][5]

Since this isn't "unlikely to release any time soon, if ever", it's okay to say that it isn't vaporware.
 
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You didn't read anything in this thread, did you?

They've been giving interviews left and right about this, and they haven't shut out people who criticized them. Only that those people didn't write things like the "I wonder" post.
Name one interview they gave with somebody that criticized them for the AI thing that wasn’t hastily arranged 24hrs before it happened
 
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You’re completely missing the point. The point wasn’t AI or Siri, this could have been about Macs or OSes or phones or whatever. The point was Apple presented a feature they couldn’t demo, and even worse advertised a feature they couldn’t demo or deliver. This, historically, is unlike them. They got too cocky or optimistic… it doesn’t really matter because either way it broke trust unlike they’ve broke it before.

THAT was the point.
Nobody would have cared it if would have been some obscure Vision OS feature like "Oh sorry in VisonOS 2 we could only deliver the somewhat bigger Mac screen, not the huge one".
 
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Nobody would have cared it if would have been some obscure Vision OS feature like "Oh sorry in VisonOS 2 we could only deliver the somewhat bigger Mac screen, not the huge one".
If they advertised the feature with a huge ad campaign on TV: the same criticisms would have been made. That it’s related to AI, something high stakes that Apple all but admits they are behind on, only serves to explain why they would resort to such lows: desperation.
 
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You're asking two questions, but missing the third about whether he was right to write the "I wonder" post. That's a major point in our context.

Something is always the matter with companies this big. You can't scale perfection up infinitely. Plus, once you reach a certain size, knives will come out no matter what.

Yes, things have been suboptimal with Siri for a long time and AI for a little while, but they're being addressed and differently from the kind of idiots investors who ask questions on earnings calls, LLMs aren't the only thing that matters to me. The changes to iPadOS alone have been more worthwhile than a lot of possible AI features.
Well I didn’t want to comment on the ‘I wonder’ post, as I’m not American and not in the USA and I don’t think Americans need outsiders telling them how to manage their political discourse.

But I can say that if I were a blogger / commentator I wouldn’t have written that post.

Agreed, the UX stuff apple announced at WWDC was fantastic with great enhancements to iPadOS as you say. All kudos to apple - it was truly great.

But LLMs and Genai are the next big thing, as significant as the pc, the web then the smartphone.

And apple are behind despite having the resources (people and cash) that previous few other companies do. And that’s worth calling out.
 
If they advertised the feature with a huge ad campaign on TV: the same criticisms would have been made. That it’s related to AI, something high stakes that Apple all but admits they are behind on, only serves to explain why they would resort to such lows: desperation.
It's unfortunate that they ran the ads, but I'm not seeing them as a "low". They've had several bad ads before.
 
The ones with Gruber were not?
They didn’t talk to Gruber? Are you lost? They had arranged interviews with softballs like Marques and iJustine, but threw in Joanna Stern at the last possible moment (wisely adding her, as they would have been roasted even harder for dodging the issue if they didn’t).
 
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Well I didn’t want to comment on the ‘I wonder’ post, as I’m not American and not in the USA and I don’t think Americans need outsiders telling them how to manage their political discourse.

Unicorn found. Apart from that, the thing that is awful about that post is politically neutral.

But I can say that if I were a blogger / commentator I wouldn’t have written that post.

Agreed, the UX stuff apple announced at WWDC was fantastic with great enhancements to iPadOS as you say. All kudos to apple - it was truly great.

But LLMs and Genai are the next big thing, as significant as the pc, the web then the smartphone.

And apple are behind despite having the resources (people and cash) that previous few other companies do. And that’s worth calling out.
Nobody disagrees that it should have been called out. The question was whether he was treated unfairly, and that' s where the way he did it comes in.

Aside: Apple was late to all of the things that you rightfully mention as important.
 
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They didn’t talk to Gruber? Are you lost? They had arranged interviews with softballs like Marques and iJustine, but threw in Joanna Stern at the last possible moment (wisely adding her, as they would have been roasted even harder for dodging the issue if they didn’t).
Read the context instead of insulting me. He has had a lot of interviews over the years, and I'm asking whether or not those were arranged.
 
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It's unfortunate that they ran the ads, but I'm not seeing them as a "low". They've had several bad ads before.
By all means name these several Apple ads that sold products based on features the products couldn’t actually do.

The point wasn’t because it was about “AI” and the problem wasn’t that the ads were “bad”. You’re so severely and consistently missing the point you’re either trolling or, you know, the other option…
 
By all means name these several Apple ads that sold products based on features the products couldn’t actually do.

The point wasn’t because it was about “AI” and the problem wasn’t that the ads were “bad”. You’re so severely and consistently missing the point you’re either trolling or, you know, the other option…
I'm not going to discuss things based on personal insults, sorry.
 
Read the context instead of insulting me. He has had a lot of interviews over the years, and I'm asking whether or not those were arranged.
His 10 years of interviewing Apple execs at WWDC was arranged well in advance of 24hrs prior, yes. The actual journalists (Patel and Stern) discussed this 24hr thing at length precisely because it was so atypical. And in being atypical, telling.
 
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Unicorn found. Apart from that, the thing that is awful about that post is politically neutral.


Nobody disagrees that it should have been called out. The question was whether he was treated unfairly, and that' s where the way he did it comes in.

Aside: Apple was late to all of the things that you rightfully mention as important.
Well I remember reading the ‘I wonder’ post at the time and I didn’t like it.

I’m not a fan of Tim Cook nowadays particularly, but ceos need to have good diplomatic relations with the leaders of the country that they are based in. That’s just how it goes. Tim Cook is hardly a candidate to be an activist CEO.

As for apple being late to all the things they mention…. I think they were pretty early to the pc (they arguably invented it!).

I reckon what you say only really applies to the web, as it wasn’t a mass consumer thing until the turn of the millennium really - as in something that profoundly affected our lives. So apple turned up at the right time, so they’d a big green tick from me.

With LLMs and genai I’m minded to think that apple risk being Microsoft in the dawn of the smartphone era.

Their competitors are producing innovations in genai that are getting more and more capable each year - could you generate 1080p videos from a prompt 2 years ago? - yet apple are barely out of the starting grid.

And I see no sign that they are in a F1 car. More like a fiat 500.
 
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