I always find it funny when people come up with elaborate excuses just to feel better about something they did that had consequences.
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John Gruber Reacts to Apple Declining His Interview After His Criticism
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Help me understand how Mr. Gruber making markdown have anything to do with being unprofessional and thinking he is all important. Mr. Gruber messed around and found out. I not saying not to criticize Apple ( they are not perfect ) but for me his criticism was overboard and what little attention I gave him is that much less.
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We don’t know that. Apple isn’t talking and nowhere does Gruber say that post was a/the reason.He didn’t just imply it, he outright said it, on his blog.
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Anyone who thinks it was just the silly Siri delayed article that’s why Gruber’s invitation was declined, it so obviously is not.
Those bridges had sparks going up for a while, the Siri article was just a flamethrower that turned this beef full sizzle.
Gonna have to call you out on this one, although I know it’s something you are just repeating said by others.
You need to brush up on your history better. The two products that have had the greatest impact on Apple’s future and success, were both on their first demonstration highly unworkable and unstable products that needed very structured presentations so the product did not fall over, and were far from ready for mass market use. The two products - the first Mac and the first iPhone.
No. The point is exactly as you said: “They got too cocky or optimistic.”
That is a factual statement, and a reasonable extension of that is ‘as a consequence they misjudged the time required to ship the feature.’
However, Gruber chose to go beyond the facts and flat out accuse specific Apple leaders of being liars.
That’s a personal attack against individuals who’ve shown Gruber a lot of grace over two decades in a symbiotic relationship.
The consequence of misjudging is disappointment, while the consequence of lying is a breech of trust.
Jon’s comments were a simultaneous personal attack against people he formerly enjoyed good relations with, and attack against the company’s foundational brand principle of trust. This is as ugly as it gets -- especially when it comes from a person you respect and believed respected you.
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I think he was right about this, and I'm pretty sure he knows it. It was a series of mistakes on Apple's part. They should have been silent about it, keep them guessing, especially when they have nothing. "Fake it until you make it". Well, you know about that, which is basically a Ponzi scheme. But hindsight...
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Under-delivering is not lying. That was a bad call.
When Phil Schiller first appeared on The Talk Show Live in 2015 (I was at WWDC at the time), it was amazing—I loved it. Just to have a chance to see an Apple exec in different setting. However, Gruber’s interviews deteriorated over the years. They started rambling about random basketball games and other nonsense. He was often critical in his written pieces but never actually asked solid questions when he had the chance to face Apple people. He also has become more like US politics commentator with some deeply polarising views. On the other hand, I really enjoyed Joanna Stern’s interview this year—it was much better than Gruber’s. She was very well prepared and got to point.
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"Independence." Yeah, ok, Gruber. We all saw how "independent" you have been with your glazing of Craig and Jaws at WWDC.
The biggest tell is how flat his recent blog posts have been. He's finding out. Good.
The reference to humility made me laugh out loud. Give me a break. He's cosplayed as a journalist for too long without actually having the stones to do what journalists do. And now he's learned what we all knew all along: Apple was playing him.
So congrats, John, you've won your independence.
The biggest tell is how flat his recent blog posts have been. He's finding out. Good.
The reference to humility made me laugh out loud. Give me a break. He's cosplayed as a journalist for too long without actually having the stones to do what journalists do. And now he's learned what we all knew all along: Apple was playing him.
So congrats, John, you've won your independence.
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I knew who he was when he just talked about the Red Sox. One of my friends from Boston told me about him. Then they won it all and that faded away.
I think he created markdown language/interpreter didn’t he?
He did, and he deserves credit for that.
Its the tip of the iceberg. Apple's corporate behaviour over the last 2 years has echoes of Microsoft from the Ballmer era. Ironic given they announced MacOS Vista last week 
Their products are still great but they've been doing a whole lot of protectionism recently, content that developers and buyers will just come to them anyway rather than having to improve and court them.
Their products are still great but they've been doing a whole lot of protectionism recently, content that developers and buyers will just come to them anyway rather than having to improve and court them.
These threads always crack me up. There are numerous threads with pages upon pages of criticism of Apple. Gruber criticizes Apple and it's "Worthless Goober's findin' out!"
It's not that he's allowed to criticize Apple--he is. But it's his persistent uppity attitude, as if he knows best. He doesn't. And he got to where he is because of his connections with Apple. And now that those connections are at least damaged, if not severed, here he is, haughty as can be, claiming independence.
What I'm dying to know--and I hope some journalist will find out (even if off the record)--is Apple's take on Gruber. Are they done with him? No more review units? Or is this just a Gruber timeout until he can get his act together?
Never underestimate the influence a public company's PR and Marketing people have over their executive puppets. Going on Gruber's show this year would mean Apple would have to accept some fault of their own doing. And Mega Corps like Apple are never at fault until government forces them to be.
A really bad look for a humiliated Apple but hey, is anyone really surprised at this level of pettiness over this debacle?
Tim Cook’s version of “release the hounds, Smithers”. Smithers being Eddy Cue, naturally.
Tim Cook’s version of “release the hounds, Smithers”. Smithers being Eddy Cue, naturally.
I can take/leave Gruber.
Apple doesn’t need him.
But to ban him? They’re that threatened by one guy? Pretty weak. We’re only left to assume John hit a nerve.
Apple doesn’t need him.
But to ban him? They’re that threatened by one guy? Pretty weak. We’re only left to assume John hit a nerve.
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They did not ban him. They just chosen to give the interview to someone else. And frankly Joanna (and the guys from Tom's Guide too) did a much better job than Gruber.
Yes but nothing special. He just did it. It's 1500 lines of perl script not some holy grail of software. It's cool that he did it but it's not out of the norm for code. But I like his apple commentary. I quit going to his website sometime in around 2008? He starting to think he also had interesting things to say about non Apple stuff but he really didnt. But he wrote some amazing apple analysis.
Anyone yapping about this without acknowledging the above is crazy. Gruber lost his mind with the above and Crisneat is 100% right. No company is going to cater to you after you say that crap. They see clearly that you are now toxic.