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Although I have always considered the iPhone 4 / 4S to be the best looking iPhone, the glass sandwich design does make for more potential glass cracks / chips given the edges of the glass are fully exposed. It’s what happened with multiple 4’s that I and my family had at the time. These renders do certainly look appealing, and the titanium frame will be a must buy, if it comes to pass.
 
That’s a very long time. Dang, didn’t think of it that way. But Atleast they got rid of it. But Samsung has been doing the hole punch long time ago
Damn. About time they get rid of the notch! It took the longer than I expected, TBH. iPhone X came out in 2017, so 5 years…
I actually don’t agree at all. The moment I saw the iPhone 12 notch was the same size during the announcements, I winced a little knowing people would criticize how long it’s been despite the bezels getting nicely thinner.

The truth is the current design still just works. Designers were quite curious when iPhone X released just how often Apple would refine the Face ID camera design. Some even said they could coast another 10 years on this same exact profile for an iPhone display.

Others were more doubtful and guessed that Apple internally ideally doesn’t want that notch there, but found it necessary for the meantime so we can all enjoy larger and curvier displays. That argument won out for the iPhone X final design.

It’s easy to see how the hardware team felt the clock ticking immediately the moment iPhone X was announced to begin furious work to solve these types of design problems. Technology takes time and patience, and most designers estimated more around 5 years before we’d see a significant change.

We are also only on year #4 of the notch still, because the iPhone 13 will be the 5th generation since the iPhone X. Rumors appear to point towards a more shrunken notch area on iPhone 13 and probably also future cheaper iPhones, with an under-display Face ID sensor array and selfie camera punch hole the following year on iPhone 14 (potentially just for the Pro or additional higher-end models).

This appears to make sense that if their goal was closer to 5 years, we’re being treated instead with a stop-gap smaller notch, while the technology and huge scale the iPhone requires to produce under-display Face ID catches up, likely thanks to covid and manufacturing delays.
 
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First of all I have to say I kind of like Prosser; he apparently rubs many people the wrong way but I think he‘s quite funny most of the time. Also, his track record is still pretty good overall. But this leak … I don‘t know. It sounds and looks too much like the wishful thinking of grumpy nerds („flush cameras“, „bigger batteries“, „get rid of the notch“) being fulfilled all the while almost completely copying the iPhone 4 design (tiny round volume buttons??). I feel like Prosser has been played this time, maybe to expose his source(s).
 
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Hole punch looks out of place, imo.
You'd be surprise how much better it looks than the notch, it least for me. I never liked the notch, so there's no way I want one anymore.

We could go back to phones with small bezels to put this stuff, and I'd actually like that. Don't need one for the fingerprint reader, that works well on the power button.
 
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Why is the design of the phone so important at this point? Seriously asking. I own a 12 Pro Max right now. I don't understand what "fresh" design would mean. Round? Squared? Thicker? Slimmer? The phone has to be functional first of all, and iPhones are damn functional.

To me, changing the design every year means that a) I have to adjust to a new design; most people don't want to b) they haven't found a design that satisfies most people.
Totally agree, I’ve had my iPhones in the Apple leather case ever since the 3GS, sizes change, bezel sizes change but a new HW design goes pretty much unnoticed by me…
 
You'd be surprise how much better it looks than the notch, it least for me. I never liked the notch, so there's no way I want one anymore.

We could go back to phones with small bezels to put this stuff, and I'd actually like that. Don't need one for the fingerprint reader, that works well on the power button.
Looks like it’s not in the middle 😂
 
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The camera bump continues to be one of the dumbest things Apple ever did. Just increase the case size and add some extra battery!
 
Prosser, the new Jony Ive :p But without benefits🙃 These rumors kill sales, Apple must hate that. I wonder how many people will just hang onto their current phone, skip the 13, and dream on about the 14?
According to the responses here, about 3 or 4 MR readers…
 
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Now that does sound more appealing than the rumoured iPhone 13 advances, compared to 12. Planning to sit iPhone 13 out and just enjoy the show. 🖐
 
Aren't we at the point in time where Apple is still dabbling with prototypes for a future iPhone 14 and where there's been no decisions yet?
If we learned anything from Steve Jobs, Apple is already working on the upcoming model two or three generations from now.

Before Steve passed, I do believe Apple was designing or prototyping the 6 series during the 4s keynote, so it is safe to assume that Apple has already locked the design of the 2022 iPhone.
 
The 12 Pro is the best iPhone for me since the 4S in terms of being all around a great package. I actually have to complaints.
I'd like to hold on to it for as long as possible, but those rumours sound too good to pass up.
 
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First of all I have to say I kind of like Prosser; he apparently rubs many people the wrong way but I think he‘s quite funny most of the time. Also, his track record is still pretty good overall. But this leak … I don‘t know. It sounds and looks too much like the wishful thinking of grumpy nerds („flush cameras“, „bigger batteries“, „get rid of the notch“) being fulfilled all the while almost completely copying the iPhone 4 design (tiny round volume buttons??). I feel like Prosser has been played this time, maybe to expose his source(s).
I find Prosses to be entertaining. At least he’s trying to provide some rumors in a fun way rather than many other online sources. It’s a realization that we shouldn’t take any of this too seriously and that speculating should be fun, not some deadly serious business.
 
Sorry but I dont see Apple doing a hole punch. it just doesnt seem like their style. IMO I see them going under display camera before they do the hold punch.
 
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