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Honestly iOS 6 looked like trash. I preferred iOS 7 since the day I got my hands on 7.0 beta 1. It looks and feels like a light and modern OS. iOS 6 felt way too heavy and dated. I don't think there is one single aspect of 6 that I prefer over 7.
 
How the hell was iOS 6 cartoonish? I understand you didn't like the skeumorphism but it was anything but a cartoon. The icon and app designs showed how much Apple cared about detail and how the experience was rich and functional yet pleasant and inviting to look at.

iOS 7 on the other hand has icons that look like they were initially drawn by kindergartners then scanned on MS Paint not to mention all the overly saturated color palette that adds to the whole tacky kiddy vibe.

Whether you like 6 or 7, there's no getting around the fact that the Apple that still likes to prides itself on perfection and the smallest details no longer practice what they preach. Now, it more like: Throwing different kinds of ****** on the wall and seeing what sticks.

You can see that new philosophy in the icon designs and how all the apps are blinding white with little to no contrast. It feels like Apple isn't even trying anymore.

I am not as emotional vested in my intense feelings of the design of iOS 6 vs 7. I care not about who designed who and what the future direction is.

The phone is a tool, period. I can swap it out pretty easily.

Having said all that iOS 7 is much sleeker than iOS 6, which us why IOS 6 looks a bit cartoonish in retrospect. IMO.
 
I personally like the look of both iOS 6 and 7. I lean towards iOS 6 but I have no problems with the look of iOS 7.
 
I think, this thread was more about future of iOS7, then about which one is better 6 or 7.
I just think iOS7 look is getting much worse in 7.1(if they keep it like it is since beta 3), they dont follow even their own UI rules anymore. That new slider is a bad joke or what? This is getting really serious, even WP8 is making more sense now.
 
The phone is a tool, period. I can swap it out pretty easily.
Are we still talking about the iPhone or just any cheap competitor's device? While I agree part of it IS a tool, and tools can be swapped out, the iPhone certainly deserves more appreciation than just that. But maybe Jony Ive and his new employees think and work in a similar way, and the result is iOS 7.
 
This is getting really serious.


Serious like what's going on in the Ukraine? Dude, it's a phone, how about we ratchet down the rhetoric a notch or two. I'm not crazy about the answer screen, but I'm not going to let it own me.
 
Are we still talking about the iPhone or just any cheap competitor's device? While I agree part of it IS a tool, and tools can be swapped out, the iPhone certainly deserves more appreciation than just that. But maybe Jony Ive and his new employees think and work in a similar way, and the result is iOS 7.

I'm not minimizing the amount of work that any manufacturer puts into a product. However, in the end, cheap competitor or not, they all make calls, they all run apps. And a cheap competitor isn't even cheap.

However, as much as I like using the iphone, in the end, it's just a tool for my use to accomplish my tasks. I don't really "appreciate" the iphone in the way you think. It is not a classic work of art.

But as I said, I do like ios 7.

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Serious like what's going on in the Ukraine? Dude, it's a phone, how about we ratchet down the rhetoric a notch or two. I'm not crazy about the answer screen, but I'm not going to let it own me.

"How the hell was iOS 6 cartoonish?"

You mean like this?
 
iOS 6 just looks horrible when comparing it to iOS 7. Yes, it's faster but it looks old, very old.
 
Serious like what's going on in the Ukraine? Dude, it's a phone, how about we ratchet down the rhetoric a notch or two. I'm not crazy about the answer screen, but I'm not going to let it own me.

;) yes right, it's not serious, but I'm still not happy to see which way they want to innovate iOS.

"How the hell was iOS 6 cartoonish?"

You mean like this?

This. :)
 
The solution is to get Scott back he was genius

He released an iOS with a huge wifi bug that caused millions in data overages for thousands of users. And there is talk that the goto fail entered the system during his reign. So much for his alleged genius. He was also apparently a total ass who wouldn't listen to anyone but Steve etc.

Johnny Ive and the software team have done no worse than Forstall in terms of bugs etc and at least Ive can work with a team and understands the idea of sharing credit appropriately etc

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Mainly positive? I know several people with iPhones and absolutely none of them like the update. Just because iOS 7 is on 80% of compatible devices doesn't mean the majority of those people are happy with. If a downgrade option was available, then you could see who really likes 7.

So what maybe fifty folks. Let's be generous and say you know 100. Really know them, not just "I read it on" folks.


You try to lay a claim that it's on devices cause they had no choice but likely hate it cause you hate it. But you haven't surveyed every user to prove your notion anymore than the other side can prove theirs. That 100 you know isn't even close to a sound sample of the millions of folks out there
 
But you haven't surveyed every user to prove your notion anymore than the other side can prove theirs. That 100 you know isn't even close to a sound sample of the millions of folks out there

Like I said while I do favor the look of iOS 6 and have no problems with the look of iOS 7. The question is would I go back if given the opportunity? No, because iOS 7 brings things to the table that iOS 6 was lacking. I really dig spotlight and control center.
 
Mainly positive? I know several people with iPhones and absolutely none of them like the update. Just because iOS 7 is on 80% of compatible devices doesn't mean the majority of those people are happy with. If a downgrade option was available, then you could see who really likes 7.

Absolutely! This man speaks sense

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Like I said while I do favor the look of iOS 6 and have no problems with the look of iOS 7. The question is would I go back if given the opportunity? No, because iOS 7 brings things to the table that iOS 6 was lacking. I really dig spotlight and control center.

Oh wow, we can adjust WiFi, brighness and a few other things by sliding a cheap-looking tab up. How many times does your brighness get muddled from using control centre? Mine does often! The only settings I use in control centre are the torch and the screen rotation lock. I was happy to adjust everything via the settings menu to be quite honest and the notification centre was WAY better in iOS6, so I never use that now. Oh and I had a torch app anyway.

Would I swap losing a third of my battery power each charge cycle, a decent notification centre, a decent calendar, a Safari which didn't crash and a generally more fluid o/s for what I have now? NO WAY.
 
Absolutely! This man speaks sense

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Oh wow, we can adjust WiFi, brighness and a few other things by sliding a cheap-looking tab up. How many times does your brighness get muddled from using control centre? Mine does often! The only settings I use in control centre are the torch and the screen rotation lock. I was happy to adjust everything via the settings menu to be quite honest and the notification centre was WAY better in iOS6, so I never use that now. Oh and I had a torch app anyway.

Would I swap losing a third of my battery power each charge cycle, a decent notification centre, a decent calendar, a Safari which didn't crash and a generally more fluid o/s for what I have now? NO WAY.

Not to mention a far more superior and functional music app.
 
Why don't you guys who don't like ios7 just sell your Apple devices. Face it this is the future, your bubbles and fake gloss is not coming back ever.
 
Honestly iOS 6 looked like trash. I preferred iOS 7 since the day I got my hands on 7.0 beta 1. It looks and feels like a light and modern OS. iOS 6 felt way too heavy and dated. I don't think there is one single aspect of 6 that I prefer over 7.

Besides tap to tweet, that's about it lol
 
I think iOS 8 will introduce circle app icons. iOS 7 is starting to get very circular and that's the way I see iOS completing it.
 
Ironic considering iOS 7 is the first update that actually does look like a fisher price toy. It's very cartoonish and tacky looking. The design and look of iOS 6 was much classier and elegant. Yes they went carried away with the textures but if iOS 7 had just kept the overall design of 6 minus the unnecessary textures (a la OS X Mavericks), I think most people would be satisfied with that. Also the old keyboard was way more legible and defined. Using apps that still have it make me miss it even more.

Old keyboard was very clear and beautiful
 
Why don't you guys who don't like ios7 just sell your Apple devices. Face it this is the future, your bubbles and fake gloss is not coming back ever.
Yup the bland overly flat cartoonish design with overused whitespace and decreased contrast along with oversimplification of most elements to the pint they are just plain thin text...that's the way of the future.
 
Jony Ive and the Future of iOS

iOS 6 is so whack and outdated now. Lol, let's move on folks or go elsewhere. I can't believe I still hear the same lame rant.

I love the white iOS 7 theme during day time. All I want is one option for a dark gray version on iOS 8 for night time.
 
I think iOS 8 will introduce circle app icons. iOS 7 is starting to get very circular and that's the way I see iOS completing it.

So they're gonna throw the rounded-square icon grid out the window after barely a year? I really get the feeling that Apple has no idea which direction they want their software to go. I never understood why Apple couldn't just hire somebody who had the same credentials as Scott Forstall. You know, an actual UI designer/engineer.
 
He released an iOS with a huge wifi bug that caused millions in data overages for thousands of users. And there is talk that the goto fail entered the system during his reign. So much for his alleged genius. He was also apparently a total ass who wouldn't listen to anyone but Steve etc.

Johnny Ive and the software team have done no worse than Forstall in terms of bugs etc and at least Ive can work with a team and understands the idea of sharing credit appropriately etc

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So what maybe fifty folks. Let's be generous and say you know 100. Really know them, not just "I read it on" folks.


You try to lay a claim that it's on devices cause they had no choice but likely hate it cause you hate it. But you haven't surveyed every user to prove your notion anymore than the other side can prove theirs. That 100 you know isn't even close to a sound sample of the millions of folks out there
A wifi bug isn't Scott's fault, that's like blaming Jony for the SSL security problem.
 
Why don't you guys who don't like ios7 just sell your Apple devices. Face it this is the future, your bubbles and fake gloss is not coming back ever.

iOS 6 is so whack and outdated now. Lol, let's move on folks or go elsewhere. I can't believe I still hear the same lame rant.

I love the white iOS 7 theme during day time. All I want is one option for a dark gray version on iOS 8 for night time.

The UI complaints about iOS 7 will remain relevant until Apple acknowledges and addresses them. After iOS 7 was announced, many UI designers and experts came to a general consensus that Ive's software designs were a step backward both visually and in functionality (save for control center). These people know what they're talking about and as an Apple fan, I actually agree. Look, Apple users are constantly stereotyped as arrogant and condescending and when I hear people staunchly defending every move and decision they make, as in the case of iOS 7, that stereotype becomes more and more obvious. Criticizing Apple when they honestly deserve some is not blasphemy and just because Jony Ive is incompetent as a software designer doesn't mean I dislike him because he is an incredible hardware designer and that's what he needs to be focused on and let a professional do a better job with the UI.

And the only reason why they decided to completely redesign iOS was because they were being pressured into it by Wall Street and tech blogs/pundits. Most users were happy and content. But all Apple seems to be doing now is caving into pressure and demands, i.e. iPhone 5C, iPad mini and of course iOS 7. They seem to be betraying the principles that defined them just to make the media and the market happy. That is not the Apple I fell in love with, Apple used to be all about making the best quality products, making their customers happy and obsessing over the smallest details.

That Apple is gone and it makes me sad.
 
A wifi bug isn't Scott's fault, that's like blaming Jony for the SSL security problem.

When you are the lead, anything that goes wrong is your fault. Especially when it is something big.

Which is why the rumors that Forstall was fired over Maps and his refusal to take part of the blame. Tim was willing to as CEO and he wasn't even directly overseeing the development. Forstall was.

And funny you bring up the SSL bug. Which is also in iOS 6 and thus could have also entered on Forstall's watch
 
When you are the lead, anything that goes wrong is your fault. Especially when it is something big.

Which is why the rumors that Forstall was fired over Maps and his refusal to take part of the blame. Tim was willing to as CEO and he wasn't even directly overseeing the development. Forstall was.

And funny you bring up the SSL bug. Which is also in iOS 6 and thus could have also entered on Forstall's watch
It was also in OS X as well.
 
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