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All they had to do with iOS 7 (other than more functionality) was keep the current UI, just get rid of the gloss, and patterns! The UI was beautiful, even if flattened. But.... this.... this... is going too far.

It's horribly ugly.
 
All they had to do with iOS 7 (other than more functionality) was keep the current UI, just get rid of the gloss, and patterns! The UI was beautiful, even if flattened. But.... this.... this... is going too far.

It's horribly ugly.

i am gonna jailbreak this **** and put the old icons back on.
 
Although i like iOS 6 and all the former versions, iOS 7 is like a breath of fresh air.
There are a wide range of folks who post here that seek change and "refresh" and to forsake "long in the tooth" (where the heck did that phrase come from?), and feel things need updating.

Then there is a segment I am clearly in that says if it works don't break it. Make the new changes to new systems and leave my old system alone. I can't tell you how much business process and mission critical apps have been broken by a software update that prevents reversion to what actually works.

Not all users want to be in a constant state of change and retraining.

New features and benefits are great and when you buy a new device or have an opt-in update process, great, but some change is bad.

One would not know that all that well reading this site.

Rocketman
 
This is actually the charging screen in iOS7.

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If this is a real screen shot no one can possibly say that this looks more premium than the current look. Flatter? sure. Cleaner? maybe. Premium (like the iPhone hardware? No way. FisherPrice? definitely. No way does this new look match the premium look and feel of the iPhone. Feature wise looks like iOS7 is going in the right direction but come on, the new look of iOS is no where near as premium looking or thought out in detail as the past versions.

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I don't understand people.
iOS 6 comes out and everybody is b.itching about how it's the same and it needs to change.
iOS 7 gets announced and people complain that it's too different.
Make up your f'n minds!!!!

I like iOS 7 and glad apple is doing something different with iOS.

I sorta agree BUT, Different does not mean BAD. Too different things. Yes good to see change but pastel preschool look even though is different is BAD.
 
Not really:

IMHO, the iOS 7-HI is much clearer, compared to other OS-versions.

In all seriousness, I do like the direction iOS 7 has taken. Having used it since WWDC, I (along with my Pixar and Cupertino friends) have a few points of contention:

- Icons are too simple, a little nuance and/or gradient would be nice.

- Brightness/contrast too low. Apple may have intentionally done so to lower brightness to save device batteries, yet even at 25% it's difficult to distinguish the white background from the subtle grey lines, separators, etc. This is especially challenging with the new keyboard.

- Colors are too divisive. There is a lack of consistency between the overall light grey and white background meshed with very bright greens, reds, and yellows. It makes sense in concept as this would better distinguish items/text/buttons/etc, yet it's too much of a difference and becomes counterproductive.

Otherwise, solid for a first beta release. Many features I had to jailbreak to use are now stock: blocking numbers - iBlacklist, multi-tasking design (Auxo), improved folders and customization (Springtomize), contacts search finally includes numbers, addresses, etc. and others. I hope a little more polish (not gloss) is added during the beta stage.

btw like your avatar, I have the same collection of Mail icon replacements. Currently using the Richard Feynman stamp. :)
 
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Ah, yes, iOS 7 where buttons aren't buttons but just plain text. Simplicity!

Buttons make it more clear it's clickable making it more simple than not having it. Removing the button makes the design more simple but not the usability.
 
There are a wide range of folks who post here that seek change and "refresh" and to forsake "long in the tooth" (where the heck did that phrase come from?), and feel things need updating.

Then there is a segment I am clearly in that says if it works don't break it. Make the new changes to new systems and leave my old system alone. I can't tell you how much business process and mission critical apps have been broken by a software update that prevents reversion to what actually works.

Not all users want to be in a constant state of change and retraining.

New features and benefits are great and when you buy a new device or have an opt-in update process, great, but some change is bad.

One would not know that all that well reading this site.

Rocketman


Lol, there will always be crotchety old codgers with backwards thinking like this... Fortunately, people like Steve & now Tim and Jony aren't held back by any such nonsense. You're free to switch back to a rotary phone if you choose.. I'll be here embracing the first striking change to iOS in 6 years & NOT referring to that as "a constant state of change".
You'd think by now more humans would recognize that our chief strength is adaptability.. it always has been. I truly do not understand the staunch reluctance of acceptance of, and fear of new & exciting tech.
 
Buttons make it more clear it's clickable making it more simple than not having it. Removing the button makes the design more simple but not the usability.
Sure, and removing the text would make it even simpler. ;)
 
In all seriousness, I do like the direction iOS 7 has taken. Having used it since WWDC, I (along with my Pixar and Cupertino friends) have a few points of contention:

- Icons are too simple, a little nuance and/or gradient would be nice.

- Brightness/contrast too low. Apple may have intentionally done so to lower brightness to save device batteries, yet even at 25% it's difficult to distinguish the white background from the subtle grey lines, separators, etc. This is especially challenging with the new keyboard.

- Colors are too divisive. There is a lack of consistency between the overall light grey and white background meshed with very bright greens, reds, and yellows. It makes sense in concept as this would better distinguish items/text/buttons/etc, yet it's too much of a difference and becomes counterproductive.

Otherwise, solid for a first beta release. Many features I had to jailbreak to use are now stock: blocking numbers - iBlacklist, multi-tasking design (Auxo), improved folders and customization (Springtomize), contacts search finally includes numbers, addresses, etc. and others. I hope a little more polish (not gloss) is added during the beta stage.

btw like your avatar, I have the same collection of Mail icon replacements. Currently using the Richard Feynman stamp. :)

Great analysis, thanks! Hopefully Apple will be responsive to the criticism, because I really dig iOS 7's new functionality based on what I've read.

That low contrast has been a problem with OS X since Lion. I wonder if maybe Apple need some new display calibration kits at the Cupertino HQ? Only half joking, but it wouldn't surprise me if maybe the lighting in the rooms is too low thus creating the impression of greater contrast? If they just use iMacs and don't calibrate the displays with regard to the room lighting, could it result in them thinking their designs have more contrast than they really do?

I'm trying to be charitable here, because the alternative is that form now wins out over function as a matter of policy at Apple.
 
This is actually the charging screen in iOS7.

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White ultra-light text on baby blue background? No one can argue that that's great design. I don't mind the appearance of the graphics, but CONTRAST is necessary for visibility. Why have a screen (a retina screen, no less?) if you can't distinguish anything on it?

I'm hanging on tight to Apple's claim that what we saw of iOS 7 isn't the finished product.
 
Ive's edits...

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Lol, there will always be crotchety old codgers with backwards thinking like this... Fortunately, people like Steve & now Tim and Jony aren't held back by any such nonsense. You're free to switch back to a rotary phone if you choose.. I'll be here embracing the first striking change to iOS in 6 years & NOT referring to that as "a constant state of change".
You'd think by now more humans would recognize that our chief strength is adaptability.. it always has been. I truly do not understand the staunch reluctance of acceptance of, and fear of new & exciting tech.
I am not forsaking new tech at all. Just saying don't break the old in the process. That's all.

I got rid of the landline entirely in three properties in favor of IP phone (Ooma) and dumped cable and satellite in favor of Roku and browser based live shows. I think that's pretty bleeding edge (for my crotchety age). Besides I'm getting a new Mac this month or so, so I am OSXM ready.

I want a Mac and iOS app that remembers the URL's for live show locations and makes surfing them as easy as a cable Box and management as simple as a Tivo. We need an app for that pending the major update to Apple TV.

Rocketman :D
 
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There are a wide range of folks who post here that seek change and "refresh" and to forsake "long in the tooth" (where the heck did that phrase come from?), and feel things need updating.

Then there is a segment I am clearly in that says if it works don't break it. Make the new changes to new systems and leave my old system alone. I can't tell you how much business process and mission critical apps have been broken by a software update that prevents reversion to what actually works.

Not all users want to be in a constant state of change and retraining.

New features and benefits are great and when you buy a new device or have an opt-in update process, great, but some change is bad.

One would not know that all that well reading this site.

Rocketman

Ok you have the option to, you know... Not upgrade?

Sounds like you are against technology advancement in general. Yes tech advances quickly and some things you were used to can go away. Adapt or stay where you are.

Deal. With. It.
 
I am not forsaking new tech at all. Just saying don't break the old in the process. That's all.

I got rid of the landline entirely in three properties in favor of IP phone (Ooma) and dumped cable and satellite in favor of Roku and browser based live shows. I think that's pretty bleeding edge (for my crotchety age). Besides I'm getting a new Mac this month or so, so I am OSXM ready.

I want a Mac and iOS app that remembers the URL's for live show locations and makes surfing them as easy as a cable Box and management as simple as a Tivo. We need an app for that pending the major update to Apple TV.

Rocketman :D

Well, I don't think you need to worry.. :0) I have tested dozens of apps so far with the first beta of iOS 7.. nothing is broken!! Every single thing I've heard from fellow users that tested betas of iOS 5 & 6 is consistent amazement over how polished, refined, and stable this release is for a first beta!
The changes are not subtle, but not wildly different enough that you have to "relearn" anything.. You'll just notice your workflow being a bit easier due to refinements made across the board..
 
Well, I don't think you need to worry.. :0) I have tested dozens of apps so far with the first beta of iOS 7.. nothing is broken!! Every single thing I've heard from fellow users that tested betas of iOS 5 & 6 is consistent amazement over how polished, refined, and stable this release is for a first beta!
The changes are not subtle, but not wildly different enough that you have to "relearn" anything.. You'll just notice your workflow being a bit easier due to refinements made across the board..
Thank you for the valuable insight of use to the majority of end users.
 
Forstall's wringing his hands somewhere

You found a photo of Ive with a smile. That's rare indeed.
I find your forum avatar offensive though. Very offensive.

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I think this is more true then most people think. When Ive leaves Apple, that will be a worry. Steve leaving Apple would be nothing in comparison. Not even a drop in the ocean in comparison.
 
It just hurts my eyes to be honest.

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Well of course in context it makes sense, like the word 'Send' in Messages. That's pretty obvious. I think some people are more concerned, and rightly so, that Ive has broken some of the fundamental philosophies of OS design that defined Apple, namely form and function being on an equal level to make it obvious even for inexperienced users what to do. Hence well-designed UI elements and icons. And in that sense making a button, because that is what it is, look like a hyperlink is really not the best design decision. It is quite obvious that this decision was taken purely from an aesthetic point of view, and that is in my opinion a wrong one.

I disagree. Maybe Apple went too far in terms of people know how to use these devices so they don't need visual cues. But I don't see that as an aesthetic decision. Just like I don't think removing the optical drive from the iMac was an aesthetic decision. Quite honestly of Apple is getting feedback that its harder to navigate in iOS 7 because words aren't inside a button they'll fix it. Won't be iOS 6 style buttons but something else. No way Tim Cook is going to have another maps fiasco. iOS 7 won't ship until its more polished and some of these usability issues have been fixed.
 
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