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Jony Ive on Apple Watch: 'Everything We Did Was in the Pursuit of What We Thought Was the Best Solution'
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The key word is "IF".
It takes years, sometimes decades for FDA approval. A true glucose monitor is a medical device. There are, and were, dozens of companies working on a light-based glucometer. Some of those patents, coincidentally, were bought by the same companies that manufacture test strips.
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I think people who use Apple Watch as an extension of iPhone, like it.
I’m not interested in that. I want a good trainingwatch.
My choice fell now on a Polar M430.
Never even considered an AW, the battery life is just plain ridiculous nothing on AW.
I have 7-10 days battery on my Polar, and it do everything I wanted a watch for right now.
Also considered Garmin Phoenix 5 Sapphire. Might be one of those next time, the rosegold/white I wanted wasn’t out on the market when I wanted one. Beautiful trainingwatch.
See what Apple comes with later. This far AW has not been remotely interesting to me.
If this is the guy responsible for the form over performance and repairability so prevalent at Apple I would very much like him to work somewhere else. No matter how great the "form" is, if it doesn't perform its a pile of CO2 pumping garbage. If it isn't repairable, its a pile of CO2 pumping garbage. Even that little unrepairable iWatch is a CO2 pumping, underperforming, tiny pile of expensive garbage. Taken in context of I'm tired of Apple getting a pass on everything.
Revolt people! It produces WAY more CO2 to recycle and keep buying new, and not much gets recycled anyway. Your dead iPhone/iPad/MacBook/iMac/etc can't be 100% recycled. But the good parts could be used to repair if Apple allowed it.
Revolt people! It produces WAY more CO2 to recycle and keep buying new, and not much gets recycled anyway. Your dead iPhone/iPad/MacBook/iMac/etc can't be 100% recycled. But the good parts could be used to repair if Apple allowed it.
I thought exactly the same until I bought one. I have over £20,000 worth of watches sitting redundant in my draw at home since I bought an Apple Watch.
It's a brilliant product that you can't & won't appreciate until you have one.
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Do you think what it takes to produce and power the device you used to post that comment?
You obviously live in a tree house, don't own a car or use public transport & never fly anywhere as you're so concerned about emissions.
History validates what I say, not later Jon Ive self-serving PR hype. Anyone can easily see for themselves where the Apple Watch design came from... and it sure wasn't the Cartier Santos or Tank or any other square watch that reporters tried to compare it to.
Again, the front is just Jon Ive repeating himself. Except for having the usual rounded corners, it looks nothing like a Cartier Santos. which had watchband lugs for one thing.
The rest is all co-designer Marc Newson, repeating his 1990s Ikepod designs, from the back:
to the replaceable and sport bands that he had already used:
to even the Sport's packaging shape, with slips to hold bands:
Don't even get me started on the nonsense Ive tried to pawn off in his AW manufacturing video, which showed the same methods that watch case makers had used for years.
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Lol, I couldn't even imagine using an AW0. I had an AW1 prior to this and I don't recall if it was slower than the AW2, but the AW2 definitely lags. I hope a bigger screen as well, but this would put a bigger strain on the battery and the AW battery is already kind of crappy.
My Aw0 battery is in perfect shape, but the display becomes very dim now just like many others report on the Apple support forum. The limitation to 3 years of use is quite a shame and a disappointment for a watch, but I guess that’s just the way Apple sees it these days.
non sequitur: I don not prevent anyone from reducing their garbage output. Did you miss the point?
I'm am always consistently amazed at what slobs these tech billionaires are. I'm not saying you have to be a dandy Beau Brummel but jeez... can you at least take it a step past Old Navy?
None of the rumours I've seen so far suggest a round Apple Watch is on the way this year.
As a former naysayer of the square screens I've definitely changed my tune. I would rather see a continuance of the rectangular screen, but of course with smaller bezels to allow a larger screen. What's the purpose of a round screen anyhow? To encompass the rotating hands on an analog watch, right? So besides fashion, I don't see the purpose. Sure you can make some cases for it like maybe a circular stopwatch counter or something, but I think those are rare and very subjective.
I still don't like rectangular watches even though I tried the Apple Watch for 18 months and I suppose it probably is a fashion thing but after almost 50 years of watch wearing I don't think I'll be changing my mind. I don't expect Apple to come out with a round watch either so at least I'm going to save a bit of money in the future.
Those are Clarks Wallabees:
https://www.clarksusa.com/mens-originals/wallabees/c/mo223
I still have the original Apple Watch and wear it daily. I thought about getting the new one with cellular but it isn't worth the additional monthly expense to have cellular access. I will buy a new one, when and if it comes with an always on clock face. Still drives me crazy to not be able to peak at my watch to see the time.
I love my series 3 with cell. The thing I love most about it is that I can to out and travel light when appropriate, yet still have the basics like having a phone, text, gps and siri (however limited it its, but enough for say, sport scores). I'm older so when wearing nice pants I always hated when my phone was outlined in my pants. Plus its heavy. The AW is a nice option to have.
I strongly considered it for that reason. However, I just don't see me going out that often without my phone (Carplay needs it anyway) to make it worth the extra ongoing monthly expense. It was a close call, though. Personally, I think the cell companies should give a discount on something with such a small screen.
I'm always amazed how how readily members of this tech forum are willing to dismiss fashion as a pointless affectation of a wearable product.
I also don't see introducing a round option as replacing the rectangle. So there's really no debate here.
Jony Ive has said two telling things here: once a customer wears a product, they have the expectation of choice. And, the watch is intended for quick glances, anything more one should pull out their phone. Combined, it's clear that Apple is fully aware customers may want a round watch to match their sense of style and fashion, and that a round watch does not limit the intended use of the watch for quick glances.
Just because you don't see the purpose of a round watch doesn't mean it doesn't serve a valid purpose for others.
Well you are incorrect in saying that I'm dismissing fashion as an important consideration, what I said was that "...besides fashion, I don't see the purpose". I get it, and I'll be the first one to wear something because of fashion. No shame in admitting that because each and every one of us does the same thing, although fashion may be in a different order of importance depending on the person. It's a bit of a moot point for me anyhow because the AW is so fugly in terms of design, thickness, bezel size, etc. But that's only personal opinion, still I don't wear the AW for fashion. But I don't blame other people who do. That's part of the reason I keep my AW instead of considering another brand, I prefer the rectangular screen because I feel it's more functional, even though I think the round ones look better.
But I'll take your last sentence as food for thought "Just because you don't see the purpose of a round watch doesn't mean it doesn't serve a valid purpose for others." If you mean the "purpose" of a round watch (specifically a round smartwatch) is to further the users fashion, then of course I see the purpose. But if you are saying that a round smartwatch adds "purpose" as in functionality then I disagree mostly, but not fully as I stated before that there may be niche cases which would lend themselves to a round screen.
I completely disagree with you on this. I owned and wore daily an AW for 2 years. But after getting a Gear S3, in my opinion, the round watch face serves a tremendous function in allowing a rotating dial for navigation. Its way better than the crown or screen swiping that the AW uses. This is especially true with sweaty hands during a workout. It also looks way better, and there is no loss of screen real estate because the apps end up using the curved areas to put things.
To me, the AW is one of those things that is so ugly that its cute... so how Ives claims they did it all in pursuit of the best is just bunk.
I bought the Gear S3 fully expecting to be very disappointed and the experience is just the opposite. A huge part of that is the rotating bezel which wouldn't be functionally possible with a square screen.
I wouldn't say navigating by bezel wouldn't be functionally possible with a square screen, it would just work differently. Indeed, an actual rotating bezel would not be first choice, but a touch sensitive one in which I could slide my finger around to access functions would be cool. That same technology would also work on the square shape, and would be far more preferable to the Digital Crown. I actually think the DC is the most blatant fashion concession and pointless feature of the watch. It looks cool, but it's not easy to use, and it presents a major point for mechanical breakdown, as evidenced by the reports of washers coming out, and the need to rinse it out under running water. It also works differently for left handed users.
If Apple delivers on the rumor to significantly increase the screen size of the watch, then any current screen real estate advantages offered by a round watch over the square will be rendered moot. The AW will likely actually gain display space, which is great for those who like to read extensively on the watch: complete emails, lengthy text conversations, news articles, contracts and legal docs, etc. And, for those who like to cram as much information on a watch face as possible. But for those who use the watch as Jony Ive intended -- for quick glances -- then either shape will serve the function well. I don't know about you, but I never walked around staring at my wrist watch in the past, and I don't intend to start doing so now, or in the future. The fact that technology allows the watch to display lots of text, doesn't mean it's the proper tool for doing it.
Try running, with sweaty hands, and trying to do anything on the AW. I don't go around staring at my watch either, but I feel pretty sure that this use case is common with many smart watch users. After having used AW for this use case for nearly 2 years, within 1 week I found the Gear S3 way easier to use and way less frustrating. The rotating bezel and intuitive UI is what makes the difference. I suspect what you described with a virtual bezel by rubbing your finger on the edge would have the same issues with sweaty fingers that the screen and DC have now. But no worries, because I am pretty confident that Apple will stick to their guns on this and say they were in seek of the best magical experience that could be found.
You may have a point about sweaty hands. It's definitely an issue with the touch screen. A physical bezel is likely to be more practical in a water environment, like swimming or surfing. However, it will still be prone to mechanical failure, just as the Digital Crown is -- especially in a sandy environment like surfing. And Apple seems to be moving toward removing all physical controls from all of their devices, so eliminating the digital crown seems inevitable.
I've looked at the Gear S3 and I wouldn't say it's OS is exactly intuitive, or especially well implemented -- but it does do the job nicely. I'd love to see what Apple would do with a round interface, as I'm sure they'd come up with a better solution than any I've seen so far. I haven't given up hope that they won't. Apple has cemented themselves as the go-to brand of smart watches, outselling any single manufacturer, so having done that, they are in a position to offer a round watch to expand the choice of a wearable device for their customers -- in particular, all those people who would wear a smart watch they don't need to go around reading lengthy text-based displays, so long as it conforms to their stylistic wishes.
Interesting reading your comments. I’ve only used the s3 in the shops and didn’t see the rotating bezel as an advantage and the GUI pissed me off. I prob just need to get used to it. But I get it during workouts.
Personally I’m a fan of the crown. It’s easy to scroll text messages without touching the screen.
Great you found a watch that works for you. It’s an emerging tech area and is only going to get better from here.