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This myth again.

All that stuff about glucose monitoring was about simply displaying info from a third party sensor embedded in your body.

Why are you so dismissive of something that could be used as a tool or measurement for somebody to be more mindful of their glucose levels? Call it what you want, but it is something that I think many others would appreciate if they have the ability to actually view something that might be pertinent to their own health and any alterations They need to make. Perhaps look at the broader spectrum.
 
As much as watch OS is the best smartphone operating system by far, I won’t touch the Apple Watch again until it offers an always-on display. It’s ludicrous that the worst thing it does is being able to tell the time. Constantly having to raise your wrist with a deliberate movement just to tell the time gets old really quick.
 
Says the guy who is in thrall to industrial anexoria (because thinner, amIright?), loves dongles for MBPr ports, and eliminated the MagSafe connector.

Will no one save us from this troublesome dweeb?
ikr? Apple Watch and iPhone getting thicker and thicker as the years go by, what is with Ive’s obsession to make everything thicker?
 
I was skeptical of the AW. I am not in love with the design but, I end up getting the series 2 when it launched because I wanted a swim tracker. Man, in a weird way the ring challenges made me a better swimmer and my fitness level is way better now due to all the tracking data. Also, AW has some quite nice features that I use daily.
Ideally, I would wish Apple made a band so I could keep the mechanical watches that I love, but in the end, I think AW was a very positive experience and I am on my second one. Good job Apple!

very much agree with this and everyone i know who owns one does too. it has actually affected lives for the better.
 
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"According to Ive, Apple CEO Steve Jobs had no particular interest in watches"

I can see why. No offense to anyone who bought one, I'm sure they have their use cases but they are just meh to me and I still have no interest in them or the product category in general. I don't see the Watch as the game-changing product like the iPod, iPhone and iPad were.

The Apple Watch, for me, would be a great accessory to my iphone assuming I constantly had important notificans I needed to keep tab of in real time.

I don't feel like, at least for me, the Apple Watch adds much to my life.
 
you're forgetting history. The iPhone did NOT become the biggest selling smartphone until these features were added in the 3G model. Up until 2010, Blackberry was still outselling Apple iPhones by the millions.

The watch could very well be a big game changer. But in it's current revision, it's not truly breaking through any barriers or exploding any real untapped markets.

People looking for a fitness tracker first, will get a fitness tracker first. People who want Jewelry on their wrist to tell time, will buy a standard watch first.

The market for the Apple Watch currently is pretty "trapped". So much so that Apple still includes the sales of the Apple watch in their "Other" category alongside all other accessories (which makes it damn hard to tell how much revenue it even brings in)

The actually smartwatch market doesn't seem to be nearly as big as we thought it was 2-3 years ago. Smart Watches just don't seem to be moving large volumes.

Could Apple change that and give reason for more people to change habits and go all in? Absolutely. The Watch just needs it's "3Gs" moment. Something that is truly remarkable that sets it apart.

We are already THREE years past the intro date of this turkey so just when is the eureka moment going to happen exactly?
 
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I had the watch for some time and it ended up being just one more device bugging me with notifications. Thanks but no - stay away. As for healthcare I don't trust a watch to take and monitor my heart rate or whatever... There are FDA (USA) or EMA (EU) approved medical devices for that.

Wow, troll much?

You could have turned those notifications on the watch off. They are fully customizable.

Are you aware that FDA approved medical devices have been proven to be less reliable than the Apple Watch? Oh, and Apple Watch will be FDA certified in the near future.

You could have given any other excuse as to dislike the AW, but you went with two petty reasons. For the record, I bought a cheap used AW2 on eBay strictly to listen to music wirelessly while I workout. I now wear the watch all day everyday (except to charge while taking a shower.) It's wildly addicting for many reasons.
 
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"According to Ive, Apple CEO Steve Jobs had no particular interest in watches"

I can see why. No offense to anyone who bought one, I'm sure they have their use cases but they are just meh to me and I still have no interest in them or the product category in general. I don't see the Watch as the game-changing product like the iPod, iPhone and iPad were.

Lmao every time I read a similar paraphrase about the iPod A’s a game changer I chuckle inside.

iPod OG released with FireWire 400 only ~ Apple only less than 1mil apps the first year.

2nd year released with 3rd party developer to have Windows compatibility. Major sales, yet competition stores a LOT more music and photos, not to mention no real stake in the UI took hold yet.

iTunes was the game changer! Even with Prince at a major awards show presented a spearheaded about the coming change the initial year the iPod was released (before it actually) and he received a standing ovation by many peers respected in their various genres. Prince foresaw music wants to be digital and that people would consume to horde or consume due to what they love and artists need to be what they are true to themselves and appeal to real fans not the mp3 downloading horde.

iTunes with decent FairPlay, decent track and album costs comparable and competitive to what was out there and music preview of 15swconds, then 30 now 90seconds was the game changer. Without it, the iPod was dead in a sea of MP3 players.

The competition was making them smaller by iPods 2nd year the size of a chapstick.
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Make the watch that works with Android phones and I will consider it. Until then I will use my $199 Fitbit Versa. It does 90% of what I need, is over $100 cheaper, 1/3 the weight, and lasts 4 days without a charge.

You do realize it’s not what you need tha Apple makes but what you covet! That’s why you’re hear reading the article and the thread and participating. You want more but just with your choice of OS in a smartphone.

Complain to google for screwing up and screwing their partners without Wear OS and they should fix it ASAP! We need the competition and with so many I still find it boggling how ALL couldn’t come close - even with 3x as many Android phone users than IOS globally?!?!!

The future isn’t pairing its:
Watch OS + Watch + some glasses tech. Glasses will be the screen and the major fashion accessory. Apple will push further for astigmatism, transitions for sweet fashions etc. You can BET Bono will be there for the transitions glasses!! All joking aside it’s exactly what apple will do in 10yrs or less.
 
No thanks. iOS will never get any better, he's the one who initially ruined it in the first place with the redesign that we're still feeling the effects of 5 years later. I don't think he has it anymore in regards to hardware either. Things like the notch, protruding camera lens, ugly antenna lines and the keyboards on MacBooks getting stuck and generally being inferior.
[doublepost=1525930784][/doublepost]Wondering what was it you ever desinged before? ? Copy that.
 
"Everything We Did Was in the Pursuit of What We Thought Was the Best Solution..."

They forgot this guideline in work with Mac Pro, Mac Book and Mac Book Pro – especially Jony Ive is responsible for this mess :(
 
Jobs hated the Apple Watch! :D

I thought he’d have more taste. That Nautilus is disgusting.

Patek Phillippe are considered one of the finest watchmaking houses on the planet with absolutely superb craftsmanship and are one of the last remaining fully vertically integrated watch making companies.

I suspect that for someone like Ive, PP produce watches aimed at those who really really understand watchmaking i.e. they're a connoisseurs brand.

However, I think that the Apple Watch comes much more from the heritage of a tool watch i.e. the Rolex Submariner or the Omega that he mentioned earlier on in the interview.

I know what you mean though - I find Patek Phillippe watches to be unattractive too, whatever the craftsmanship on display. Good job that I can't afford one!
 
The thing to note about Jobs is that while he may of hated the idea initially he was known for changing his mind quite often, he did so with a number of different products over the years so let's not get caught up in the "Jobs would of hated this" it's really getting old don't forget Jobs has been dead for nearly 7 years, things change fast in the tech world and no one knows what Job's would of thought or worked on in the future.

The Apple Watch is a prime example of Apple still being able to innovate and make great products even without Jobs around.
 
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"According to Ive, Apple CEO Steve Jobs had no particular interest in watches"

I can see why. No offense to anyone who bought one, I'm sure they have their use cases but they are just meh to me and I still have no interest in them or the product category in general. I don't see the Watch as the game-changing product like the iPod, iPhone and iPad were.

That’s because nothing will be as game changing again since the iPhone put the internet in our pockets.
iPad and iPod did not change any game, iTunes maybe did.

Btw, Jobs passed away in 2012, so it’s an at least 6 year old opinion on smart watches.
 
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Apple's design chief Jony Ive, who is responsible for overseeing the creation and design language of almost all of Apple's products, even down to its stores and campuses, recently sat down for an interview with Benjamin Clymer, the founder of watch-focused site Hodinkee.

Ive shared details on the creation process behind the Apple Watch, some of Apple's inspiration for the device, and the experts the company consulted with, along with background on the first watches he purchased, Apple's focus on health, what he finds inspiring, and more.

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Ive's first watch of note was an Omega Speedmaster, which he says he bought in 1992 on a trip to Kowloon. Ive says he was "utterly seduced" by its use in space exploration. "Somehow it epitomizes the optimism, ambition, and courage of invention," he said. Ive said he also admires the Nautilus by Patek Philippe, which he describes as a "bizarre, bizarre object."

According to Ive, Apple CEO Steve Jobs had no particular interest in watches, and so early discussions for the watch didn't take place until 2012, a few months after Jobs passed away. The death, said Ive, caused Apple to "think about where we wanted to go" and what trajectory Apple was on as a company. Apple was also exploring its contribution to its users. "I think, incontrovertibly, that Apple since the 1970s has made difficult-to-comprehend and inaccessible technology easy to understand and accessible."

The Apple Watch, with its focus on the personal, was the next logical step in device development, and its creation was different from many of the products that came before it because there were existing references. "Normally there are no parallel products from which to learn," said Ive. Given the historical context of the watch, though, Apple did something "highly unusual" and consulted a range of experts.

Ive says Apple asked seven experts for their assistance with the Apple Watch while it was still in development, and he provided details to Hodinkee. Apple consulted Will Andrewes (a horologist with 40 years of expertise), Jonathan Betts (Curator Emeritus at the Royal Observatory), Dominique Fléchon (a specialist in antiquarian horology), Grégory Gardinetti (Fondation de la Haute Horlogerie historian), Claudia Hammond (a writer and psychology lecturer), David Rooney (Keeper of Technologies and Engineering at the London Science Museum), and Chris Lintott (an astrophysicist at the University of Oxford). Marc Newson, who Ive said is his best friend, was also involved in the Apple Watch's development as he had designed several watches in the past.

Apple wasn't aiming to solve a particular problem with the Apple Watch, according to Ive. It was more so a "matter of optimization - of opportunity." In the vein of "opportunity" Ive also alluded to future Apple Watch development and how much more impressive the idea of opportunity is to him because he knows the technology Apple has in development.Despite the early input from horological experts and the storied history of the watch, Ive says there were no homages in the Apple Watch. "Everything served a purpose," said Ive. "Everything we did was in the pursuit of what we thought was the best solution." Ive used the digital crown as an example, which he said "took a modicum of courage" to implement with Apple's typical disposition towards "direct manipulation."

According to Ive, one of Apple's aims with the Apple Watch was to "broaden how relevant we were," which is why the company explored new materials like the gold and ceramic that's been used for higher-end Edition watches. Ive says that working in gold and ceramic was "purposeful" for expanding "who Apple is" and from a materials science perspective as it will help with the development of future products.

Health-based capabilities were "an early and significant focus" of the Apple Watch, and Ive says that feedback from customers who have had health benefits from the Apple Watch has been hugely motivating. In fact, he says that he finds customer feedback much more motivating than Apple's new position as the largest watchmaker by revenue.The full Ive interview, which goes into much greater depth on many topics surrounding Apple Watch development, can be read over at Hodinkee.

Article Link: Jony Ive on Apple Watch: 'Everything We Did Was in the Pursuit of What We Thought Was the Best Solution'
[doublepost=1525958339][/doublepost]I bought Apple Watch just as nice step counter. Now, I won't go more than a few steps anywhere without it. It shows me I need to exercise. It monitors my heart. It gives me a quiet, subtle buzz when I have messages or phone calls. It lets me pick and adjust the music on my bluetooth speaker. And, most amazingly, when my iphone battery died while I was out with no car, the uber driver was able to call me and I spoke to him over the watch, like Dick Tracy. That's really a lot of bang.
Do I love traditional Swiss watches? Yes! I have a beautiful, big Breitling on my left wrist. But hey, I have 2 wrists! The Apple Watch is always present on my right wrist, monitoring my health and taking care of business. I absolutely love it. These watches, I predict, will be on most every wrist in some form in the coming years.
 
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Being a watch fan I'm thrilled with the more fashion oriented materials that they use AND that they provide a lower cost, light weight option. My fear is that they will drop the stainless and make only Aluminum watches at some point in the future.
 
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I had one for a couple months and sold it. Im sure many people enjoy the apple watch, but for me it just become annoying that I had notifications on my phone and watch.
 
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The Apple Watch, with its focus on the personal, was the next logical step in device development

I'm not sure if you could call the Apple watch "personal" given the limited number, and lack of customization of the watch faces. Watch faces are the gateway into the watch, and what you look at most of the time (pun not intended). People should be able to develop their own, or at least have a kit so third party developers can develop them. Imagine what cool watch faces could be possible. Being able to add photos, and complications to a preset interface isn't enough.
 
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