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There was surprisingly little from Ive in the article. I thought the most intriguing quote was:

It’s quite interesting that if you look back at the first generation of the iPod or the Phone — what happens in the next two, three, four years is dramatic.

So are we to assume then that the Watch will harbor great innovations in the next few iterations, but the rest of the Apple line-up will stagnate? Or do products glide along on a sort of plateau until the next big innovation?
 
In our work, we've always tried to design in a way where you're not aware of the problems that we've had to solve. That's the job of the designer: to solve problems and explore, but not really drag you through what all the problems were.

Nowhere is that design ethic more apparent than in the exquisite humpback battery case.



Mike
 
Sometimes I suspect that Apple execs must sit around thinking of pompous phrases to repeat, that will awe the naive.

With Jobs, I actually had a strangely perverse admiration of the way he could twist the meaning of words. It was his forte. These guys are just Jobs-wannabes spouting nonsense.
And giving us grammar lessons to boot! :D
 
Sir Jony Ive is like a prince now. Apple Royalty. But what recent accomplishments do we have to celebrate? Just curious how much of this work he still does himself.
 
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I'm planning on skipping gen 2 of the Watch and nailing the 3rd gen. That's the plan for now anyhow.
Loose a bunch of use benefits with your plan. I have version one with no regrets. By version 3 or 4 I maybe in the market if the new benefits are worth the costs. At any rate, Apple Watch has good value for me. Nice to see interest from those who are not already Apple Watch owners.
 
Apple TV has failed to capture the hearts of many after so many iterations. Will Apple Watch go the same path? I certainly hope not for Apple's sake.

In fairness, and this is coming from someone who is really unimpressed with the watch...neither of theses segments has a real leader. Until tv can be purchased a la carte and via the Internet, streaming media players will remain an accessory niche. I do think they blew it with gaming on the new Apple TV. It's a very dull upgrade. I do think the watch will improve dramatically over time but I don't think it'll be particularly interesting for at least another five years. Sensor technology needs to improve.
 
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I think Jony's done an amazing job.

Someone has to balance all the bitching and moaning going on here.

More like good old fashioned cynicism. Complaining is tolerable if it's at least somewhat insightful. But cynicism is just ugly and vain.
 
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You know... I see Ive, Phil and Cue as Apple's Mccartney. Hair force one, the hardware engineers, other software engineers, Scott were Apple's Lennon.

When Steve was alive, there was a balance in power. Since he died, Cook had to be CEO (face of the company, not part of the brain anymore. Beancounter), Scott is gone, and Ive/Phil/Cue got way more power. The balance was destroyed.

Consequence? The best beancounter on the planet has no one to put him in check, and despite having the best software and hardware engineers in the world, they are powerless against Ive, Phil and Eddy. Everything that comes out of Phil's mouth is pure ********. Ive needs someone to control his genius otherwise it all becomes excessive and narcissistic (rose gold. It's pink, dude.). Cue... I know nothing about him, but I know that he was in control of the MAS and iTunes and he killed both of them, as far as potential is concerned.

Steve itself doesn't seem very important to me. Apple was 100% the work of fantastic talented people. Steve wasn't a great engineer, or a great designer, or great at management. But he was great at putting those Paul Mccartney in check.

We see the result in Apple having the best products and ecosystem (iPhone 6s/6s plus/iPhone SE/iPad Pros/rMBP/iMac) and also the most useless, overpriced, outdated, foolish piece of garbage in the whole tech industry (Every iOS device being sold with 1GB of RAM or 16GB of onboard storage, HDD Macs, Macs with TN Panels, cMBP, Mac Pro with rebranded cheapass """""""""firepros"""""" and not pro at all.).

It all makes sense to me. Seeing Ive in that picture only intensifies this feeling.
this makes so much sense. I think someone finally decoded Apple's problem. Now to sit back and watch them shrink since they'll never be able to admit/ correct the above issues.
 
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I do miss seeing Jony Ive as a dedicated designer and not a celebrity. I guess its my old age speaking that the announcements from Apple don't wow us like how they used to before. I mean when I got ahold of the first 1st and 2nd GEN iPod, you could really feel and see the love they put behind it. When the Powerbooks first went Aluminum, that MacWorld just blew me away. I somewhat felt the same way when they announced the iPhone... but thats it. I guess as Jony aged... so did Apple.
 
You know... I see Ive, Phil and Cue as Apple's Mccartney. Hair force one, the hardware engineers, other software engineers, Scott were Apple's Lennon.

When Steve was alive, there was a balance in power. Since he died, Cook had to be CEO (face of the company, not part of the brain anymore. Beancounter), Scott is gone, and Ive/Phil/Cue got way more power. The balance was destroyed.

Consequence? The best beancounter on the planet has no one to put him in check, and despite having the best software and hardware engineers in the world, they are powerless against Ive, Phil and Eddy. Everything that comes out of Phil's mouth is pure ********. Ive needs someone to control his genius otherwise it all becomes excessive and narcissistic (rose gold. It's pink, dude.). Cue... I know nothing about him, but I know that he was in control of the MAS and iTunes and he killed both of them, as far as potential is concerned.

Steve itself doesn't seem very important to me. Apple was 100% the work of fantastic talented people. Steve wasn't a great engineer, or a great designer, or great at management. But he was great at putting those Paul Mccartney in check.

We see the result in Apple having the best products and ecosystem (iPhone 6s/6s plus/iPhone SE/iPad Pros/rMBP/iMac) and also the most useless, overpriced, outdated, foolish piece of garbage in the whole tech industry (Every iOS device being sold with 1GB of RAM or 16GB of onboard storage, HDD Macs, Macs with TN Panels, cMBP, Mac Pro with rebranded cheapass """""""""firepros"""""" and not pro at all.).

It all makes sense to me. Seeing Ive in that picture only intensifies this feeling.
I applaud and appreciate you for such an in depth assessment & understanding of what makes Apple, Apple. However I disagree with the less RAM, less storage assessment. I think every Apple device is always outfitted with the amount of power that it DESERVES for it's time. Cuz what you do with that amount of RAM/power is always continuously getting established. You can't properly establish the end use and function when you give the device more power than it knows what to do with. Once a couple things and end use have been established and outfitting extra RAM serves a true purpose WITH the software to SUPPORT it, then only does Apple takes the big plunge. Why did Apple outfit the watch with a measly A5 processor cuz its functions were still to be established. I've always believed this is what keeps Apple devices ahead and really what makes this company so great.
 
So, the strongest evidence yet for the watch plans... seems we can expect it to get thinner, curvier, get camera gps wifi and cellular,* more colours, until about the seventh or eighth generation when it will just stop.


*all these in small incremental steps, to tempt upgrades, and maximise profits.
 
You know... I see Ive, Phil and Cue as Apple's Mccartney. Hair force one, the hardware engineers, other software engineers, Scott were Apple's Lennon.

When Steve was alive, there was a balance in power. Since he died, Cook had to be CEO (face of the company, not part of the brain anymore. Beancounter), Scott is gone, and Ive/Phil/Cue got way more power. The balance was destroyed.

Consequence? The best beancounter on the planet has no one to put him in check, and despite having the best software and hardware engineers in the world, they are powerless against Ive, Phil and Eddy. Everything that comes out of Phil's mouth is pure ********. Ive needs someone to control his genius otherwise it all becomes excessive and narcissistic (rose gold. It's pink, dude.). Cue... I know nothing about him, but I know that he was in control of the MAS and iTunes and he killed both of them, as far as potential is concerned.

Steve itself doesn't seem very important to me. Apple was 100% the work of fantastic talented people. Steve wasn't a great engineer, or a great designer, or great at management. But he was great at putting those Paul Mccartney in check.

We see the result in Apple having the best products and ecosystem (iPhone 6s/6s plus/iPhone SE/iPad Pros/rMBP/iMac) and also the most useless, overpriced, outdated, foolish piece of garbage in the whole tech industry (Every iOS device being sold with 1GB of RAM or 16GB of onboard storage, HDD Macs, Macs with TN Panels, cMBP, Mac Pro with rebranded cheapass """""""""firepros"""""" and not pro at all.).

It all makes sense to me. Seeing Ive in that picture only intensifies this feeling.

I very much agree with your assessment. I see Steve as the director of the movie. He had the creative vision and he was able to work with a wide variety of talented artisans to craft a fantastic finished product. But there's no director now.

Phil is insufferable and you can tell he's sort of a middle of the road guy who has managed to rise probably higher than he should. Cue is the one I really don't get. He seems wickedly ineffective as a product manager...yet he continues to rise. Makes no sense.

And Ive, talented as he is, has turned into a raging narcisstic, an endless fountain of insipid quotes about design philosophy. Barf. You design gadgets dude. They are nice. But they are iterative and narrow in focus, not the second coming of design.

Cook is a great producer but every film needs a director with vision. I frankly think Ive's best work happened under Jobs, when Jobs could collaborate and control the ego. Since then design has more or less flatlined at Apple (other than thin!) and the UI work is becoming increasingly counterintuitive.
 
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I'm just glad to hear him admit that he had no confidence when he was designing the watch, that sales are poor enough to allow him to start over, and that the next one will have a round face.
 
Oh thank goodness I am not the only one who couldn't really find actual meaning to all those prettily accented words. And I was hearing his accent in my head as I read all his babble. He could be a politician. He said a lot without really saying anything.

Trust me. You're not the only one.

In no reference to his work, his speaking is absolutely pompous, arrogant and condescending. But he doesn't ever actually say anything. At all.

Every time Johnny speaks, his words irritate this logic section of my brain. It's so many words to say absolutely nothing,

And a great designer? I Apple Watch is a scaled down iPhone 1. With straps! Inspired design my ass.

And just taking you 10 year old design and making it thinner might be a technical advancement, but it's not a design advancement. His obsessive thinning design has crippled every Apple products performance in some way. He absolutely does Not put function into any consideration with his design.
 
I very much agree with your assessment. I see Steve as the director of the movie. He had the creative vision and he was able to work with a wide variety of talented artisans to craft a fantastic finished product. But there's no director now.

Phil is insufferable and you can tell he's sort of a middle of the road guy who has managed to rise probably higher than he should. Cue is the one I really don't get. He seems wickedly ineffective as a product manager...yet he continues to rise. Makes no sense.

And Ive, talented as he is, has turned into a raging narcisstic, an endless fountain of insipid quotes about design philosophy. Barf. You design gadgets dude. They are nice. But they are iterative and narrow in focus, not the second coming of design.

Cook is a great producer but every film needs a director with vision. I frankly think Ive's best work happened under Jobs, when Jobs could collaborate and control the ego. Since then design has more or less flatlined at Apple (other than thin!) and the UI work is becoming increasingly counterintuitive.
Apple lost the hammer, "No Guy" with power. Replacement needed!
 
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I respect the guy, but seems like he's been playing the role of the Vice President if you know what I mean
 
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