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Judge Again Denies Apple's Attempt to Intervene in Google Search Engine Lawsuit
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Vision Pro to $6,500. Double all storage and RAM prices.
Reduce iPhone storage to 64gb, and charge by the gigabyte for anything higher.
Google Financial Analysis is most likely staffed by learned & capable folks. They are not giving Apple $20B per year unless they make more than that amount in revenue. I think there are 1 billion active Apple devices, so g.t. $2 per device per year (likely more as this is just iPhones). There is a great article out now about the vast, vast level of tracking enabled on iPhone devices despite you opting out of it -- everything intended to optimize ad placements. Scary really.
Not sure about your math there.
Here are some better numbers:
$20 billion divided by 2.35 billion active devices would be $8.51 per device for the year.
Apple sold roughly 230 million iPhones in 2022. I don't want to hear any of you backing this complain when prices go up $100 on every iPhone model.
Of course it is. They risk loosing a lot of revenue and an enormous amount of profit.
It's OK for the judge to deny it, but it is certainly in Apple's interest to try to defend the search deal.
No, it's two businesses who want to do business with each other and is being denied by a judge.
That's not the case with a stalker where only one party wants to do 'business'.
I can already see how this ends. iPhones will get more expensive.
That was going to happen no matter what
Apple is right. The court found Google guilty, but punishing Apple instead of Google. Apple is still allowed to make a deal with Microsoft to make Bing the default search engine, so artificially limiting the potential partners only hurts Apple, therefore they should be able to defend their business. $20 billion a year is a real number. Apple doesn't have to demonstrate that it will suffer "certain and great" harm. It is already suffering monetarily and its shareholders are already suffering in the stock exchange.
I think, at this point, Apple should negotiate with Microsoft. If they don't make a deal, most users will stick with Google. MS, of course, doesn't have to pay Apple to benefit from the current situation, but if they do, that will help them gain a much larger market share.
I think, at this point, Apple should negotiate with Microsoft. If they don't make a deal, most users will stick with Google. MS, of course, doesn't have to pay Apple to benefit from the current situation, but if they do, that will help them gain a much larger market share.
Will Google have to end it’s agreements with all the Android manufacturers to make Google the default search?
If Apple wishes to discuss how to pay the revenue it received from Google/Alphabet to consumers and advertisers, plus interest, for the harms consumers and advertisers endured due to lack of competition in the search and associated advertising markets, then maybe the judge will be inclined. Otherwise, it’s hard to imagine why a major beneficiary of illegal acts ought to get a seat at the sentencing table.
As another analogy, in this situation Apple is like a large heroin distributor that wants to be involved in their heroin manufacturer’s sentencing. No, sorry. Not unless the heroin distributor would like to discuss disgorging its profits.
Presumably Apple is facing civil class action lawsuits trying to recover revenue Apple received from this monopoly acting illegally. If you structure your business to depend on a monopolist acting illegally then it’s “tough luck” when the justice system catches up.
As another analogy, in this situation Apple is like a large heroin distributor that wants to be involved in their heroin manufacturer’s sentencing. No, sorry. Not unless the heroin distributor would like to discuss disgorging its profits.
Presumably Apple is facing civil class action lawsuits trying to recover revenue Apple received from this monopoly acting illegally. If you structure your business to depend on a monopolist acting illegally then it’s “tough luck” when the justice system catches up.
The fact that you think “Apple should mind their own business”, when the business deal is between Apple and Google, tells me you have absolutely know idea what is going on.
Does this logic apply to all the Android manufacturers and most of the browser makers as well? Because Google has been a monopoly paying companies to be default search for decades.
Or is this just about sticking it to Apple? Who has not been found to have done anything wrong in a court of law with respect to this issue.
Nope. $20 billion annually. And rising.
Wrong. The DOJ isn't objecting to Google having a search engine option on Apple product. They're objecting to Google behing the default search engine on Apple products.
I know exactly what is going on; Apple made deals with a company doing illegal things. Time to butt out.
Apple shouldn’t profit on its closed ecosystem by limiting choice to the users therein. I’m fundamentally opposed to a company profiting from doing nothing except to limit choice or made it harder for its customers to have choices.
Not gonna happen - even if you put this suggestion out to the universe via MacRumors.
Then buy from a company that offers you the choices you want.