Judge Dismisses Lawsuit Over Apple's Location Tracking in iOS

[Oletros]

His attitude? He'd be in contempt in 5 minutes here. IDK about Germany, I guess.

You say that counting all the times people has said that Judge Koh has been bribed by Samsung, don't you?

 

[StyxMaker]

Privacy is already a myth.

The minute you enabled locations settings, GPS on your device and signed in to iCloud (or similar), you lost all of your privacy.

Even before that, the moment you connect to the Internet.

 

[AppleMark]

That's nonsense. With GPS enabled, your device knows where it is. Just as you do. As long as you and the device don't tell anybody, you're fine.

In as much as it is a nonsense to naively assume that a GPS enabled device cannot be configured to "tell anybody" where you are.

I even owned a sat nat device (not sure if it was handheld or built in) that had a facility to contact the breakdown services to let them know your exact location.

 

[Mr Bigs]

Germany is now removing all apple devices from gov institutions due to poor security reasons.
Reuters and Bloomberg few days ago if you want to look for the article.

Thing is we all know it
Whoever believes he's using a "secure" device needs a doctor.

This is common knowledge and exactly why highly classified info is never stored by anyone of importance on an iPhone/iPad

 

[r3m1]

It obviously doesn't help that Apple does not cooperate with third parties to implement secure kernels, and/or that their phones do not have a microSD slot.

The German Chancellor's secure phone is now a Blackberry Z10 with a Secusmart dedicated encryption processor on a plug-in microSD. The government is ordering thousands of these phone combinations at EUR 2500 each, for high officials.

Another secure phone approved by Germany for official use is based on the Galaxy S3, and made by SiMKo3. It uses a custom Android kernel, and costs EUR 1700.

(SiMKo3's custom Android kernel approach is similar to the LG Optimus and Knox based Samsung S4 sold by GD Protected for use by high level US government and military officials to access classified material.)

Thanks for the info - I did not know that these phones existed -

 

[kdarling]

Thanks for the info - I did not know that these phones existed -

Yeah, the news often reports on this or that phone getting a "clearance", but it's almost always for very low level access.

To be able to discuss secret info, you need a truly secure solution.

For example, when Obama took office, he refused to give up his Blackberrys for everything. He was supposed to switch to the General Dynamics Sectera Edge (image below), based on Windows CE, for all Secret and above communications.



It was certified for Top Secret voice and Secret email. Ruggedized against drops; water and dust proof.

Anyway, apparently he didn't like that either. So they customized a Blackberry with secure VoIP software from a company called "The Genesis Key", and he's apparently still using that phone.

Speaking of location tracking, rumors also say that, to prevent someone tracking his phone's IMEI via cell tower intercepts, his Blackberry will only talk to special base stations installed in his car, office, Air Force One, etc. The base station then reportedly talks over secure satellite link. Interesting hack, if true.

As a side note, President Putin reportedly uses a Russian made Android phone.

 

[Ryan John]

Judge Koh is on fire TBH....

Is this woman an Apple employee yet? If not sign her up Tim.