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No it's not. I'm self employed. If I don't show up for work, I don't get my $450-600/day rate. If I'm stuck on a jury for some jackass who decided to burglarize someone's home over a few hundred bucks in computers and stereos over the course of 2 weeks, he's cost me $6k. That's a lot of money for a freelancer. I'm not giving up that kind of money to sit around for 8 hours a day to get paid a $3 lunch over something like that. Take your self-righteousness and go home.

You should have got yourself exempted from jury duty. According to California law (check the law for your own state) you would have met the qualifications for being exempt from it.

So what you are calling other people's "self-righteousness" is actually your ignorance of what laws regarding jury duty apply to you. Your mistake, and ou only have yourself to blame for it. Get over it.

BL.
 
You should have got yourself exempted from jury duty. According to California law (check the law for your own state) you would have met the qualifications for being exempt from it.

So what you are calling other people's "self-righteousness" is actually your ignorance of what laws regarding jury duty apply to you. Your mistake, and ou only have yourself to blame for it. Get over it.

BL.

Well it is the judge who makes the ultimate decision as to whether you qualify for a hardship exclusion. What we consider reasonable may not jive with what the judge considers reasonable. ;)
 
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I've never been called, and hope never be to. In Australia it's randomly selected off the electoral roll, so I may never be either.
 
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I have sat on 3 juries ... been called in 5 times.

On one of these I was sequestered for one week on a murder trial. It is something I don't talk about much.

It was difficult to listen to the facts of the case. Drugs, a brutal beating, rape, strangulation. It was difficult to look at pictures of the scene.

It was difficult to then sit in the deliberation room with jurors who didn't want to deliberate ... who just wanted to go home because this was too difficult. It was hard enough to sit in judgement of another human, knowing the decisions we made could lead to the end of that person's life. And some of the jurors couldn't handle it. They couldn't follow instructions ... wanted to discuss things that we were specifically told we couldn't use to make our decision, just so they could go home sooner.

We argued. We asked for clarification from the judge. We broke for dinner, and when we came back we argued some more. One young juror, who during jury selection said she always wanted to be on a jury, decided she wanted to quit in the middle of deliberations. More arguing. I told her to grow up. She told me I was mean. I asked how she thought the victim felt. Same age as you, by the way. Is this justice? To just give up? She cried. More arguing. The judge calls us in and says the quitter can't quit and that we would be there until a decision was made. Back to the jury room. More deliberating, more arguing. 3 or 4 votes and we reach a verdict. File back into the courtroom, face the accused. Read the verdict. It seems everyone is emotional except the accused. We are released from service, but noone gets up to leave.

The outcome doesn't even matter any more. It was the single most difficult thing I have ever personally had to do. And I would do it again.

And for those of you selfish idiots that can't be bothered to serve, you are everything that is wrong with our society today. Stop thinking only about yourself!
 
I've never been called, and hope never be to. In Australia it's randomly selected off the electoral roll, so I may never be either.

I live in a large city (2m+). Plus there are the jurisdictions consisting of the City, County, State, and Federal . I believe they use the voter registrations as the pool. The day I was there, there appeared to be 400 people. For a minor trial the jury pool was 24 people. For a serious trial, the pool was 60-70 people. I imagine if they keep track with computers your number should come up, multiple times. :)
 
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I live in a large city (2m+). Plus there are the jurisdictions consisting of the City, County, State, and Federal . I believe they use the voter registrations as the pool. The day I was there, there appeared to be 400 people. For a minor trial the jury pool was 24 people. For a serious trial, the pool was 60-70 people. I imagine if they keep track with computers your number should come up, multiple times. :)

I live in a regional city my local government area has a population of 50,000, the city not including the local government area I live in has a population of just over 250,000. On probability it should have come up already but it hasn't and I'm happy like that.
 
I was called for JD once and was thrilled to get out of it. Told the judge I already thought he did it. Look at him, he fits the mold perfectly.

Civic duty my ass. I am the last person you would want on your jury. The fact that you have to go is asinine.

There are many people who would love to sit on a jury, let them. In fact lets make professional jurors a reality.
 
Just heard that the jury pool for the Boston Marathon Bomber case is 3000 people. WoW! :eek: Just to find the right 12 people. For myself it would be easy. I'd state I'm against the death penalty, because I am, not because I'm avoiding my "duty". Thanks for your service.

This is not PRSI.
 
I was called for JD once and was thrilled to get out of it. Told the judge I already thought he did it. Look at him, he fits the mold perfectly.

I'm surprised the judge didn't give you a scolding. In all my jury experience I've never seen anyone answer like that, and I don't think the judge would be very happy to hear that in his court.

Civic duty my ass. I am the last person you would want on your jury.

I'm sure you're right with that assessment.

:rolleyes:
 
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I'm surprised the judge didn't give you a scolding. In all my jury experience I've never seen anyone answer like that, and I don't think the judge would be very happy to hear that in his court.



I'm sure you're right with that assessment.

:rolleyes:

He did give me a "look" but didnt say anything. The defense lawyer didnt want me. I wonder why:p
 
He did give me a "look" but didnt say anything. The defense lawyer didnt want me. I wonder why:p

In the instances where people have mentioned that they might have a relationship or experience that could lead to bias, the judge has asked the prospective juror whether that bias would preclude them from examining the case fairly and basing their judgement on the evidence brought to trial.

People almost always answer that they can put their possible bias aside, because (as a general rule) people like to imagine themselves to be fair, level-headed, and capable of sound judgement.

You were just more honest than most.
 
Jury Duty is a good way to exercise the right to perform Jury Nullification against unjust or improperly-applied laws. Some judges and lawyers don't want the jury members to know about Jury Nullification, nor to be so smart that they can see through lies and begin to question things like Mandatory Minimum Sentencing and unusual statements made in the courtroom.
 
Jury Duty is a good way to exercise the right to perform Jury Nullification against unjust or improperly-applied laws. Some judges and lawyers don't want the jury members to know about Jury Nullification, nor to be so smart that they can see through lies and begin to question things like Mandatory Minimum Sentencing and unusual statements made in the courtroom.
I can imagine a jury using jury nullification if the judge or lawyers let them know about it in their courtroom statements, but otherwise, if you're the only juror who knows about jury nullification, then imagine the problems you'd have convincing other jurors that the choice is available to them.
 
I've always gotten lucky in jury duty. The night before, I cakk and don't have to show up. I do want to participate in one though but as a student, my time is limited.
 
I'm on Jury Duty this coming week. Maybe they will call me for an interesting case. Maybe not.

Who has had interesting experiences while on jury duty?
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To all who teach, “practice law”, or may someday be called to serve on a
Criminal jury, this is for you.
I served five weeks in a sequestered jury in a Chicago Cook County
Criminal courtroom.
The charges of murder, rape and arson arose from the investigation of a
tragic fire which swept through a residence in which four children died.
Three teen age sisters and a younger brother,
We listening to 57 witnesses describe in detail the horror where the
defendants committed these all these crimes.
Looking back at this event which occurred forty years ago I buried all
these horrendous details in the darkest corner of my brain
.
I have recently had nightmares which I believe is due to this event..
So think twice about to serve on a Criminal jury, you will
always remember it..

This article appeared in "The Atlantic" last May.

“The Trauma of Jury Duty” Atlantic Monthly, May 15 2015
Jurors in the United States are often exposed to horror—and, like those
empaneled in the Tsarnaev case, would benefit from access to post-trial
counseling and services.
Jurors witness horror on a regular basis. At the close of the Boston
Marathon bombing trial, prosecutors pulled out the clothing and
possessions of eight-year old victim Martin Richard. Item by item the last
shreds of a boys’ life were introduced in excruciating detail—a bloody
jersey, bomb-melted shorts, metal, wood, and the devastating shrapnel that
tore the breath away from a smiling child. The jurors wept openly in
court.
How should jurors—ordinary citizens doing extraordinary duty—cope with
this emotional toll? How should courts respond? While the facts in the
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev trial were more difficult than most, confronting tragic
loss, disfiguring injury, and death remains a routine part of jury service
in America.

Jury service is stressful. Jurors internalize both the difficulty of
deciding another’s fate, as well as the emotional toll of bearing witness
to tragic events. A National Center for State Courts report found that 70
percent of all jurors feel some stress. Yet the greatest difficulty often
lies in homicide and death penalty trials, in which jurors not only share
the burden of imposing guilt (or even death), but are necessarily
confronted with the loss of life that led to the case. Some jurors even
report physical ailments, including headaches, nightmares, and symptoms
consistent with post-traumatic stress disorder.

The reason: Jurors receive little preparation for the traumatic evidence
at trial, and are provided inadequate resources during trial. This lack of
attention stems primarily from the limitations of the trial process.
Judges naturally avoid warning jurors about upcoming evidence for fear of
influencing the jury’s evaluation of that evidence, and counselors cannot
consult with jurors during the trial without interfering with the jury’s
decision-making. Worse, admonishments not to discuss the testimony or
evidence with family or friends means that jurors go through the trauma
largely separated from normal emotional supports.
Even after cases conclude, courts proceed cautiously with offering
counseling services for fear of unsettling final verdicts. Because most
convictions result in criminal appeals, any process that reveals the
feelings and thought processes of jurors might also provide an argument to
challenge the jury verdict. In addition, jurors quickly disperse back to
their communities, providing little practical opportunity to provide
counseling services. Finally, in an era of growing juror apathy, courts
would rather not advertise the possibility of nightmare-inspiring
testimony that awaits citizens.

Despite the difficulties, some courts have begun to offer post-trial
counseling services modeled on other post-trauma assistance to
first-responders and the military. The federal courts have even developed
a process of “critical incident debriefing” for federal jurors in high
profile cases. State courts in Texas, North Carolina, and Minnesota, among
others, have also begun experimenting with similar counseling programs.
Yet these innovations reach only a handful of citizens, and difficulties
with funding and logistics have prevented these services from becoming the
norm.

If courts are interested in addressing juror trauma, they can start by
borrowing from the well-developed literature on trauma recovery. Instead
of discouraging jurors from sharing their experiences, courts could look
for a way for jurors to express their emotional reaction after the
verdict. Isolation and withdrawal heightens the negative effects of
trauma. Finding constructive and safe ways for jurors to talk about what
they experienced would help them heal, while also furthering the public
witnessing purpose of jury trials. Courts might create juror support
groups consisting of former jurors, develop juror forums in which they
could share their experiences, or simply encourage jurors to talk with
family, friends, and the community.

We all have a role to play in this process, by appreciating jury service
in a far more public manner.
Courts might also expand post-trial counseling services beyond
high-profile cases. Most homicides, sexual assaults, and violent crimes
involve potentially traumatizing testimony that hits far deeper than the
special victims unit violence regularly broadcast on TV. Jurors could be
given the opportunity—if requested—to address some of the consequences of
this violence on their lives. These juror recovery programs could pay for
professional counselors who can identify and respond to the distinct
trauma of jurors.
 
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I received notification that my number came up, and I was called into the Suffolk Superior court. Not a horrible court, and in fact unlike many of the municipal courts I could bring in my tablet and phone. Alas, when I called the day before to see if I had to show up, the automated message said it was cancelled.

I really don't want to serve on a jury, but I think I wouldn't get picked, given where I work (hospital), where my wife works (law firm) and other things that I think would make lawyers think twice about picking me.
 
I been on two juries, one criminal and one civil. I have to say I liked the civil trial better for you aren't deciding a person's fate and you don't need an unanimous vote. Though the funniest experience that I have experience was not serving on a jury. I think it was the first time I was called for jury duty, I was going on vacation the following week and really didn't want to serve on that jury for it looked like it was going to last awhile. The judge in her opening statement said going on vacation was no excuse for getting dismiss from jury duty, so that made me sweat even more. Then next thing I know my jury number was called and I was seated in the jury box. This made me sweat even more, but I was still hoping I wouldn't serve for the lawyers still had to select the final jurists by challenging the jurists. I believe they had 2 challenges where they could dismiss a jury for no reason what so ever, they didn't even have to ask any questions. So one of the lawyers (I can't remember what side and it was a civil trial) asked another jurist some questions and then the judge ask the lawyer if he/she want to dismiss a jurist. The lawyer said yes after deliberating with the other lawyer on the team (I believe they were suing the Detroit Police Department for sexual harassment) and called on jurist number 9 (That was my number and I still remember it to this day after 30 years). I stood up and started to go towards the exit, when I heard "Mr. Pepp, where do you think you're going? I haven't officially dismissed you yet!" Needless to say I was frozen in my tracks and quickly said "Sorry, your honor I wasn't thinking (or something like that)". After a little lecture she eventually officially dismissed me and as I was walking passed the bailiff who was opening the door for me was laughing quietly and said to me in a soft voice "All the years I have been doing this job you're the first person I have seen that practically jump out of his seat and starting running for the exit". I have to admit looking back it was pretty funny. :D
 
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