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You drop your IPHONE and I am sure that the case is broken, right? I am on my second SAMSUNG and very happy with the light "plastic". For instance when I need to get at the exchangable battery or RAM-slot. Ups, guess that is nothing to worry about on a IPHONE. ;-)

I have dropped my 4S more than 100 times onto concrete. I don't use a bumper and I jog and walk a lot with the phone in my hoodie pocket, it falls off quite often. There are a lot scratches on the back and the sides but nothing is broken so far. But I agree that plastic is better. If Apple offered their next handset in plastic and aluminium, I'd buy the plastic one. I loved the 5C.
 
On a side note, not bc I'm an Apple fan boy or what not, but Apples icon of a microphone actually looks like a microphone. Not sure what Samsungs is? The mount points are too low and gapped to much.

More proof that that it's silly to claim microphone copying.

There are many types of microphones. Here's just a few I could find quickly:

microphone_types.png

I think Samsung was doing a modern take on the first one. Apple and Google used the second.

But you bring up one problem with icons using old technology. After a while, many people have no longer ever seen the originals.

E.g. Not many desktop phones look like the icons used these days for Send/Answer. CDs are disappearing. Heck, think how many computers still use a floppy disk icon for "Save File"!
 
To me it seems that they don't know how to make a flagship 4" handset.

They are not even trying: to them a flagship smartphone means large screen. It's the same reason Apple doesn't make cheap smartphones: they have the technical capability for sure to make them successfully but it's not their strategy.

Or, it's the same reason Apple doesn't make >4" smartphones: they surely know how to make them but until today it was not their strategy. We'll see with the iPhone 6.
 
Patent 721:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...8,046,721.PN.&OS=PN/8,046,721&RS=PN/8,046,721

Has been found invalid outside America in some country's due to recognised prior art existing before the patent, and as such Apple has lost cases against others due to that:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18709232

Apple was quoted when interviewed about it's loss against HTC using it's slide to unlock patent as stating:

"We think competition is healthy, but competitors should create their own original technology, not steal ours."

Which is pretty funny and incredibly hypocritical when the patent was flawed as the judge in effect recognised Apple stole the slide to unlock idea from this device:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj-KS2kfIr0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj-KS2kfIr0

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Because Mac computers don't use touch screens and aren't mobile devices that fit in your pocket perhaps? You are REALLY stretching to attempt to claim Apple didn't rip of the Android notification system in anyway, because it blatantly did.

Wow. You talk about "stretching"? Just after posting the link to that phone with slide to unlock. (you know, the one that isn't even technically an actual "touch screen"). You would have had a much better argument saying Apple ripped off the bank ATMs and railway ticket dispensers of the last 20 years.
 
Rich people getting off easy for their crimes yet again.
Why do you even bother with this comment? How does that help in any way? And once again: If you where CEO of company XYZ, what would you do to keep your company running?

These holier than thou comments are just wasted space.
 
Many on her don't seem to realize that Samsung is the larger inventor - its spends more on R&D and has a much larger patent portfolio. It also has a much larger scope of in house capabilities than Apple.

The reason it seems to be on the receiving end more is that Samsung's ecosystem is more open, in that Samsung licenses much of it's IP, either it's patents or through sales of components (much of which many have pointed out is in Apple products).

Apple benefits from having access to a relatively open system of innovations, through licenses, created by a lot of the semi-co and infrastructure companies, but bucking the trend and closing off their software and design innovations to others.

So none of these companies are evil or criminal, particularly in the way some vilify them here, they are just competitors trying to make money by improving technology and positioning themselves differently.
 
Wow. You talk about "stretching"? Just after posting the link to that phone with slide to unlock. (you know, the one that isn't even technically an actual "touch screen"). You would have had a much better argument saying Apple ripped off the bank ATMs and railway ticket dispensers of the last 20 years.

What stretching? This is what one of the prior art that courts in UK, Germany, Netherlands and other countries have used to say that the patent is invalid
 
To me it seems that they don't know how to make a flagship 4" handset.

They sure knew how to a few years ago, I doubt that they have somehow forgotten how they did it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S

I would think that a company that spends billions on marketing and market research has a better understanding of what kind of products are worth creating than some random dude on the internetz.
 
How is that similar to any of Samsungs convicted actions? After reading this expose, I don't see Apple doing anything this corrupt in the past.

Samsung a history of copying, stealing, illegal business practices
http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2014/06/apple-samsung-smartphone-patent-war

I thought when Jobs launched the iPhone in 2007 knowing full well that Cisco owned the name was pretty blatant stealing. He did go back and negotiate with Cisco to use the name after the fact, though.

I think every company does this. Samsung certainly is the worst but please don't think Apple is a saint here. They are no different than any other corporation.
 
They sure knew how to a few years ago, I doubt that they have somehow forgotten how they did it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S

I would think that a company that spends billions on marketing and market research has a better understanding of what kind of products are worth creating than some random dude on the internetz.

Yeah but it cuts both ways. Then asking Apple to do a bigger phone is equally irrelevant because they'd know if there was a demand for something like that more than we do.
 
How is that similar to any of Samsungs convicted actions? After reading this expose, I don't see Apple doing anything this corrupt in the past.

Samsung a history of copying, stealing, illegal business practices
http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2014/06/apple-samsung-smartphone-patent-war

Apple's management engaged in at least that and the e-book thing while knowing both were illegal. You have issues of corruption in both of them. Cook was obviously aware of them, but hopefully he decides against having Apple initiate any new ones.
 
Why do you even bother with this comment? How does that help in any way? And once again: If you where CEO of company XYZ, what would you do to keep your company running?

These holier than thou comments are just wasted space.

It's not holier than thou. When the smaller players infringe a little bit they get hammered in court but when the big boys do it they get a slap on the wrist. Everyone should be subject to punishment proportionate to the crimes committed. If any one of us stole millions of dollars worth of intellectual property we would be under the jail. When a monied interest does it, we have people like you defending their theft as being business as usual.
 
Thanks, this document explicitly says what I said, FTC acknowledges that an injunction can be granted for FRAND patents, page 9, footnote 8.

While an injunction can be implemented, it is is discouraged and has been blocked many times in the past. Banning products based on FRAND patents is considered by many as anticompetitive vs monetary compensation.

I never said they cant ban for things like this. What I said was many US federal offices don't agree with banning, such as the Federal Trade Commission, the Justice Department and so on. So my statement still stands.
 
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